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“This was my attempt to reduce suicides of military/vets - explains PH around the killing number

112 replies

Ticketyboots · 11/01/2023 08:33

….as he has worked with vets for 2 decades so sharing this info (killing number) was not boastful and means no shame to discuss it - but his intention was to reduce the number of suicides.

This what he said on The Late Show to counter the recent furores about the Taliban piece. I felt that was an uncomfortable reach for me to believe.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=E6l0ObY2XVM&bpctr=1673424179

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Mrsjayy · 11/01/2023 08:34

Ah so he was being a "saviour" what a prat.

Ticketyboots · 11/01/2023 08:36

It’s about 5 mins in.

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Sep200024 · 11/01/2023 08:38

“My words are not dangerous, but the spin on my words is dangerous”

!!

Tell that to The Taliban, Harry.

Mrsjayy · 11/01/2023 08:40

He really needs to stop talking now.

Alleycat1 · 11/01/2023 08:40

Quite @Sep200024 He is even more stupid than I thought!

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 11/01/2023 08:41
Hmm
hoppityscotch · 11/01/2023 08:41

Has he done enough interviews now? I'm a bit worried he's going to say something that makes him a target for attack.

Mrsjayy · 11/01/2023 08:41

I mean he blames everything on everybody and sulks because people won't accept his "'truth'"'. Arsehole !

Choconut · 11/01/2023 08:41

I was just reading on the BBC that Harry said it was 'lies' and thinking it was horrendous that the DM would write that he said he killed 25 people and thought of them as chess pieces if that wasn't true and that puts so many people in danger.

But then it turned out it was true. But he wasn't boasting about it, he was just saying.

TheFairyCaravan · 11/01/2023 08:41

He said context was everything, which it is. The Tabloids accused him of boasting about how many people he killed. He wasn’t. That’s what upset the Taliban. We already he knew he killed people, because for one he was in an Apache helicopter, not in control of a water pistol, and two, it was reported in the press 10yrs ago when he was described as being a hero.

Ticketyboots · 11/01/2023 08:42

“My whole goal with that detail is to reduce number of suicides”

Thats at about 7:50 - 8-20 (not 5mins in - useful to watch from there for context)

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HappinesDependsOnYou · 11/01/2023 08:42

It is also the press who are at fault apparently for dangerously twisting his words. No Harry just no!

He declared to the world how many Taliban he killed. Clearly forgot the Taliban were part of that world!

He referred to them as chess pieces. How would he feel if his mother was referred to as a chess piece taken off the board? What ever your views they were humans with families and people will be hurt at that remark.

They may be the enemy to troops fighting them but the Taliban see the likes of him as the enemy and they are freedom fighters. Why poke the "enemy" when your fear for your safety.

You said it Harry so own it and stop blaming misinterpretation! I honestly believe he has ptsd and is in full self destruct mode!

HappinesDependsOnYou · 11/01/2023 08:43

sorry for all the over sized paragraph spaces. My mumsnet keep inserting them and won't allow them to be deleted!

SirChenjins · 11/01/2023 08:45

What spin would that be, then?

Did he honestly think that his words wouldn't be picked apart and analysed or a light shone the many inaccuracies and misremembered events? Is he really so arrogant that the world would thank him for gifting us this 'historical record' without question?

No wonder the RF are keeping quiet - knowing him as they do, they probably knew he'd make a tit of himself without their help.

50shadesofneigh · 11/01/2023 08:46

Harry can never, not once, hold his own hands up, can he? The man is a narcissistic prat. He's clearly been undergoing intensive interview training and now he's bluffing and disingenuouing through every interview. I just want him to fuck off shut up

Wellnowlookhere · 11/01/2023 08:46

hoppityscotch · 11/01/2023 08:41

Has he done enough interviews now? I'm a bit worried he's going to say something that makes him a target for attack.

That’s likely to be the only thing that might shut him up. He has verbal diarrhoea and enough space in that head for an Amazon warehouse, he’s that dim.

mpsw · 11/01/2023 08:47

We all knew he wasn't boasting FFS!

And releasing numbers and using terms like chess pieces is a dick move.

There is zero support for this, and he's utterly deluded if he thinks this aids veteran's MH in any shape or form.

His comments in 2013 - when he covered the same ground but without the numbers or the chess pieces - was well received.

It is precisely the inclusion of those aspects which is the problem.

The military community, in general, did not think for a second he was boasting. We thought he was being a prick for overstepping a line.

And no amount of "oh but the press" erases that.

He fucked up - he should own it

(I think his advisers in 2013 were considerably more on the ball than anyone he has in the role now)

SirChenjins · 11/01/2023 08:48

I'm loving the idea that the Taliban are spending their days reading the DM's analysis of his interviews and book and basing their response on that though Grin

Boulshired · 11/01/2023 08:50

im at the point I can’t think of Harry and not sing “it wasn’t me” by shaggy. He seems to have no ability to see other perspectives. Context is always up for interpretation and in the books written form he killed 25 and described them as chess pieces.

Ticketyboots · 11/01/2023 08:51

Maybe it’s because I have lost a sibling to suicide that I found it crass and triggering that he countered the reaction to the Taliban number with claiming his sole reason for writing about it was to reduce the number of suicides for military/vets.

This claim was jarring (for me) in the attached interview and I felt it disturbing that he would use this as an excuse / explanation for his words. Did he talk about suicide prevention in the book?

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KnavesOut · 11/01/2023 08:53

If that was his purpose why didn’t he explain that in the book?

Ticketyboots · 11/01/2023 08:54

50shadesofneigh · 11/01/2023 08:46

Harry can never, not once, hold his own hands up, can he? The man is a narcissistic prat. He's clearly been undergoing intensive interview training and now he's bluffing and disingenuouing through every interview. I just want him to fuck off shut up

now he's bluffing and disingenuouing through every interview.

Yes you have caught my sense here.

That he is now spinning but to reach to suicide (for anyone and especially the military) felt a low painful blow.

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Doyoumind · 11/01/2023 08:55

He's infuriating. If he's so paranoid about the press, why didn't he bother to read through the manuscript and consider what the potential outcomes could be once the press got their hands on the book?

He takes responsibility for nothing.

Ticketyboots · 11/01/2023 08:57

Sorry it’s just slowly sinking in for me personally - it’s not just disingenuous to claim he was solely aiming at suicide prevention.

It’s actually deeply offensive and deeply hurtful to those families enduring that pain - often the worst type of bereavement.

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704703hey · 11/01/2023 08:57

I'm not following his logic, does he mean that by him talking about his own experience may assuage feelings of guilt and trauma for vets?