“This was my attempt to reduce suicides of military/vets - explains PH around the killing number

[Ticketyboots]

….as he has worked with vets for 2 decades so sharing this info (killing number) was not boastful and means no shame to discuss it - but his intention was to reduce the number of suicides.

This what he said on The Late Show to counter the recent furores about the Taliban piece. I felt that was an uncomfortable reach for me to believe.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=E6l0ObY2XVM&bpctr=1673424179

Mostly what astonishes me about the strong reactions to Spare are that people think they have a right to say what one bloke should or shouldn’t be able to say about his own life, his own opinions. It’s wild.

I don’t know the motive behind Harry saying this and neither does anyone else.

Well we do now actually - because as of his claims in the interview last night - the words from his own mouth (see it in the clip above) say his “whole goal” behind those words was to reduce suicide.

My point is that this is revisionist and self serving - to get him out of a hole.

And that using a disingenuous suicide prevention claim in this community especially is deeply offensive.

He did not write those words to reduce suicide.

He is not very bright.
He is unable to take any responsibility for his own words and actions.
It is actually rather disturbing to see how misguided he is.
But why didn't his editor, publishers or their lawyers not tell him to take the Taliban stuff out of the book, for his own safety?!

He did not write those words to reduce suicide

How do you know?

Do you know why he wrote ‘those words’? (Which words in particular?)

He explained his reasons well on the Stephen Colbert interview last night. Haven't got to the part in the book yet.

Completely wrong. He was criticised for releasing his kill number of 25. Which runs contrary to the ethics of the British army and is utterly repugnant to the public.
He was criticised for revealing the number and thereby giving the Taliban fodder for their propaganda machine. Indeed, the Taliban since then have said on the basis of his info, their investigations have found in fact that civilians were killed (obvs this is made up)

He should have never revealed the number…..that’s the point. Harry knows this but yet again manipulates the situation and blames the press. He only has himself to blame for his new security problems

But he didn’t even shoe horn it into the book.

He made this retrospective claim that suicide reduction was his “whole goal” only after the press furores.

IMHO he is lying and self serving to dig himself out of a hole and to me at least and to many other families enduring the horrors of suicide caused deep offence.

But why didn't his editor, publishers or their lawyers not tell him to take the Taliban stuff out of the book, for his own safety?!

Not their job.
Lawyers are engaged by the publisher to see if something is libellous. That’s their whole job. It’s not libellous - they may have asked something like ‘Can this number be corroborated?’ but that would be about it.

The editor may have asked ‘Are you sure you want to include this detail, this phrasing?’ but if the author says yes, it is important to them to do so (to help veterans, perhaps he said?) then that’s the author’s decision. It’s his book.

‘The publisher’ is the whole team + management and they’ll have been guided by the editor, marketing & publicity. PR will have done a lot of consulting on how to deal with the press around things like this. On which it seems Harry has strong views, so….

It’s up to Harry what he says in a book about his life. He’s been pretty clear he’s not taking ‘advice’ to stay silent on things - that’s why he wrote the book.

O course it was...

Just part of Mr and Mrs Meghan's mission to solve all the world's problems.

Unless you happen to have been a disabled female member of staff at Ludgrove Prep while The Messiah was a teenage rebel.

OP, I’m curious- have you read the book?

Aw, let’s hope the little silver pendants of his kids heartbeats ( now restored to former glory) miraculously divert the Taliban bullet fired to kill him. Because let’s face it, he has another couple of books to squeeze out of his sad little put upon life as the Royal whipping boy and needs a gripping story, or two.

see also:

Harry’s mad rush to vets with dog that had swallowed something accidentally dropped by a revengeful journalist. Assists vet at operation, dog lives.

called in by kids school to talk about mysterious drawings done by child which show a floating Angel ( “that’s my granny in heaven, she talks to me at night”)

hens that lay heart shaped yolk eggs on Diana’s birthday ,( it’s a sign)

Meghan reveals she has healing hands and sets up a (not for profit but pays a good salary) clinic where attractive , photogenic and clean people can be restored to full health. ( see also book 3 here her powers extend to previously little known illnesses that can be cured by the power of her loving thoughts “we first realised her abilities when she sent healing thoughts to granny, unfortunately too late” )

Harry is formally adopted by a First Nations community who recognise his spiritual affinity with nature, his First Nation name translates to Willie Shot The Hen Harrier It Wasnt Me Honest.

I can do these forever and am available @ GhostWritesRUsWith GuaranteedTears, for significant remuneration.

Didn’t the book just come out yesterday? No one has read all of it 🤣🤣🤣

As an aside I find it very interesting that the usual RF topic obsessive and serial posters have disappeared completely and people with new usernames are cropping up to post in the exact style the Meghan sycophants did. Extraordinary.

Not sure he needs to be saving vets but rather they need to be saving him!

As will his kids.

I’d also state the the US has a different type of threat level than Europe in recent years. To position this for a US audience when the threat is in a different country is also not great optics.

I have. Had it finished it by the afternoon.

If he’s not careful that hole he keeps digging is going to be six feet under 😯 I think he is actually his own worst enemy and his brain is so addled with the hallucinogenics he takes that he doesn’t know if he’s coming or going.

Even if the RF and the media bowed down to him and gave him everything he wanted he’s so effed up he’d still be complaining and dissing everyone, it’s just another addiction. If you knew someone like this in real life you’d stay well away. If his wife keeps her distance from him she may well actually be able to rebuild her ‘brand’ but keeping association with this very, very damaged person will be her downfall. I used to think she was the one dragging him down but now I’m wondering if it’s now turned and he’s going to drag her down with him. Not that I care about either of them, it’s their kids I feel sorry for. I won’t buy his book but I’d probably buy their adult kids ones.

This in frickin spades.

It's getting very grating hearing him whine or drip feed details and sell private details with no awareness whatsoever that there are consequences or the mental health of anyone other than his and M's matter. Sharing "your truth " must involve accountability too, surely?

And for many posters here there are no depths to how low he can go because of what may or may not have happened to the pair of them. It's like they have a Get Out of Jail Free card that will never expire.

But other people are the problem, apparently.

These words….not a sniff of any (“whole goal”) ref to suicide reduction.

That coupled with the US enthusiasm (again, no matter the cost for many) for fire arm use does make sense

What a ridiculous reach this is for Harry as that certainly isn't how to reduce military veteran suicide rates by any means.

There's a reason an Afghanistan veteran whom Harry called a "hero" has said he should shut up.

Some might find this Time article interesting.

time.com/6245898/prince-harry-implications-killing-taliban-spare/

Did you want him to say

‘So, my whole goal in writing this section is to point out that I don’t feel ashamed of having killed people in service to my country as a member of the armed forces, and if you’re a veteran reading this, you shouldn’t feel ashamed either.’

Would it be OK to publicly mention his ‘number’ then?

I'm so sorry OP

I find it incredibly irksome when celebrities waffle on about mental health, all this "we need to talk about it". Yes, we do, but what people also need - in many cases urgently - is proper mental health care without massive waiting lists. The celebrities float down, give some personal anecdotes about their own struggles, and pat themselves on the back that they have made 'meaningful change' just by speaking their magic words.

I wonder what help was offered to Harry by the armed forces to deal with his issues? What kind of help is offered generally? I don't know, but all personnel impacted by serving in armed conflict should receive exemplary professional help in exchange for having served their country. Does Harry address this? Does he know for a fact that talking to all and sundry about the details of conflict helps the mental health of anyone involved? I would imagine that these questions could be addressed by experts in trauma, and if Harry wanted to really help, rather than just blurting out about his own situation, he could draw upon all kinds of resources and make a real difference by campaigning for proper care for combat veterans. It doesn't appear that this is what he's doing, though. It seems to me that he is simply over sharing in the time-honoured way of the celebrity memoir and then posthumously tacking on "but I said it to help ooootheeeerrs" in order to try and deflect. Most people are surely aware now that conversations about suicide should be tackled very carefully, with expert involvement, and not just flung about on a chat show with James bloody Corden

No of course not. It was never ok! He’s mentioned it for money! For sensationalism. It’s the fault of the press- again.,

How would writing those words actually help reduce suicides? Surely he should have expanded the explanation for him writing this bit. To talk about the sadness of the level of suicides in ex servicemen and what needs to be done to help that. Not sure why stating the number of people he killed in a book helps.

Why didn't he talk about this really important point he is trying to make in the pre-recorded interviews