Ajay the tailor speaks about the flower girl dresses

[Orangefir]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11620179/Tailor-centre-Meghan-Kates-bridesmaid-dress-row-speaks-out.html

No surprises here. Days before the wedding the dresses didn’t fit. Couture gowns, made by Givenchy from measurements sent in. This tailor worked day and night but they had all six dresses to fix. It’s obvious they couldn’t get it all done. They really needed remade.

I think we can see why Kate was upset and why Charlottes dress and some of the other younger flower girls dresses looked awful.

Both women were understandably stressed. Givenchy created one more thing to worry about.

Blame lies with Givenchy.

It's not real...

Just cos the DM puts it in a phone graphic doesn't make it so

Bluesky it depends on what your priorities are. Getting bridesmaids dresses that are fit for purpose (and we are told Kate’s own tailor, who is clearly an expert, said the dresses needed to be remade so that was their judgment Kate was passing on), or not get the message across to the bride who’s already wasted a day by not responding to the text? And as things turned out the work was needed and the dresses were still of very low quality.

I don’t know, it’s a bit like the maid of honour has been tasked with putting candles into candlesticks to be given away as wedding favours, and the candles don’t fit. Should the bridesmaid tell the bride they need smaller candles, or just say “shall we ram them in and not care if the candles splinter and break a bit?”. If you want to solve a problem the first thing is diagnosing what needs to be done.

This stuff happens to lots of people, lots of families.
I think the question really is… who leaked this story? And why? Obviously had some motive.

I don't agree with the a bride has ultimate control just because it is her wedding. Not where children are concerned. Any person, but especially a child, who must wear clothing has the ultimate right over wearing the clothing. Charlotte was not a doll to be dressed as commanded. Of course they may mean that a person can't continue as part of the wedding party but that's a choice that a bridesmaid is entitled to make

Agree with this.

Lets not encourage Bridezilla mentalities

If the dresses were far too big and ill fitting, how would you propose they be fixed?

Another taylor and team spent hours on them in the run up to the wedding. That alone suggests the dresses needed much more than just minor alterations.

Also remember Charlotte holds a position that the photos taken on the day are likely to get dragged out for people to see in years to come.

Thinking of the photos that resurface now and again of little William at Prince Andrews wedding and a little Charles at his mums Coronation.

Well said.

Leaving the family drama aside, the fit of garments is of great interest to dressmakers and tailors. As I understand it, in couture houses, tailoring (tailleur) and dressmaking (flou) are considered different skills. A person who is good at one will not necessarily be good at the other. So it doesn't necessarily follow that a tailor will be good at fixing dresses.

The neck on Charlotte's dress is too wide (it sits away from the body) and too high. This is what happens when you try to fix a too wide neckline by taking a dress up at the shoulders and it almost never works.

The sleeves are too plain and the armholes are too big. They are puffy and you can see right up the sleeve. They would have looked much better with a horizontal band at the sleeve hem to gather in some of the horizontal width. Better quality garments in RTW almost always have some detail at the hem of the sleeve.

The sleeves being plain is a style choice.

"The neck on Charlotte's dress is too wide (it sits away from the body) and too high. This is what happens when you try to fix a too wide neckline by taking a dress up at the shoulders and it almost never works."

that's what I suspected, not sure if it was this or another thread where I mentioned it but the neck shape just looked off. Like the top of the neck curve has been cut off. I think the neck was probably the biggest reason Kate's dressmaker said it was a full remake, because they knew that would happen.

Wow
Kate was being a difficult cow it’s obvious .
it wasn’t even her wedding !!!

Err because Meghan is American …

Yeah because you were there and saw it all 🙄 It’s Meghan who has form for difficult diva behaviour.

It's not obvious on the dummy but, on the photo of Charlotte, it's clear that the pleats on the front of the skirt are off centre, too.

I think the waistband has been tightened, the bodice pleated down to match (and possibly taken in at the sides, too), and then the skirt repleated to match it. I suspect they've tried to adjust the skirt length from the waistline, too. Together, that would explain both the wonky hem and the uneven pleats.

They'd have probably gotten away with a lot of that on a more forgiving fabric.

Then the combination of lifting the neckline and possibly taking it in at the sides has messed with the armscye shape, which is why the sleeves sit wrong.

Remaking was the only way to get a high standard result, but clearly it didn't happen.

The messages aren't real. We have Harry's recall of conversations and texts which he wasn't privvy to, recalled 5 years later, in a book which is trying to make his wife appear in the best possible light. Nobody has seen the messages, they haven't "released" them

On this basis you declare someone to be a cow

Just cos the papers put them in a graphic of a phone doesn't make them true.

Don’t forget Kate had a full time nanny /a maternity nurse and. Team of staff ..
Why would she be stressed !??

See the only thing I think is obvious is that something major went down with these dresses that won’t have been the fault of the design house because if it had been they’d have put it right. Based on the words shared by Harry himself it was only Meghan who was rude and snippy. Everything else is conjecture.

@toomanytrees fab post!

Was it a Taylor or Dress maker who redid the dresses?

He's described as a tailor.

If Late really was / wanted to be a butch, she’d have sent Charlotte off to the wedding wearing the dress that arrived from Givenchy

Now got a disturbing image of Kate trying to be butch 🤣

I now have an imagine of Kate trying to be butch. It's quite funny

But agree, doing nothing would have been the meanest thing as it would have attracted loads of attention

Like the dresses? 😂

Well yes, I was pondering Kate’s alternatives here. That’s was definitely one of them (“not my wedding, not my problem…”) but she wanted to sort the problem out. She didn’t have to get a second opinion from another expert either, but she did. No good deed goes unpunished…