Harry still smoking cannabis 2 years ago

[TheCountessofFitzdotterel]

He describes going out for a spliff while everyone else is asleep when they were staying at Tyler Perry’s house.

I think this explains a lot. We have always known he had a history of drug use but the fact he is still (or until pretty recently) smoking cannabis, when we know that long term usage can cause paranoia, makes sense of his belief people in his family are briefing against him, his absolute conviction that all kinds of petty things in the past from his bedroom size to expressions on Kate’s face show deep hostility to Meghan and him.

I am not dismissing the fact that Meghan has been the victim of racism both inside and outside the family (Princess Michael’s brooch/ the worst stuff in the press and online) but Harry seems very ready to take it as representative of wider attitudes. I wonder if part of the problem has been that when Meghan has needed help navigating and translating an alien culture and family, the help he has given her has been reflective of his own paranoia and encouraged her to interpret things as hostile when they’re not meant that way.

The thing is given his history with the press and the racism that still exists they do have a lot to be paranoid about but what if his ‘everyone’s out to get us’ ageing stoner brain is stopping him keeping it in proportion?

He also said he smoked weed after his first date with Meghan. So yeah it does sound like it’s something that he turns to in good times and bad

I know weed is very widely accepted now but I still think it's dangerous. We know use before age 25 (when the brain fully develops) can alter the brain.

I've seen adults using weed and behaving with extreme paranoia. I don't think it's safe or 'ok' at all.

I like the fact your post has nuances. At the moment the vast majority of people seem to be Team Harry or Team RF, and that is not good or healthy, it’s a complex situation and Harry’s drug use, from his mid teens. is part of that problem. The other issues including the British media, the men in grey suits at the palace, his parents and his sibling rivalry.

Most of these issues stem from his childhood and I’m pleased to see this means more people are acknowledging that and not blaming his wife for everything.

I am sure cannabis use can increase / cause paranoia but I think the paranoia stems from a genuine issue. He unfortunately reads everything that is written about him and his wife - who all rely on "royal sources". I'd be paranoid my family were involved.

That's a 20 year drug habit, if he started in his late teens.

I find it more interesting that he's got 2 kids and reached the age of 36 - the exact age and situation to when his mother died. I wonder if the similarities have brought up a mental breakdown where he's fueled by paranoia and delusion and re-writing of history to suit his current mindset.

I have no idea whether this could have been a trigger or not but surely this would be something his therapist could work on.

He said his happiest times were in the Army.

That's the time when he either won't have been using at all, or only a bare minimum in very limited private circumstances.

The cause and effect works both ways - he's happier so is ok with less/none, but actually it's because there's less/none in his system that his mood recovers

As we know, "weed" isn't the benign drug of the 1960s these days - far more potent and much greater adverse impact on MH

I am sure cannabis use can increase / cause paranoia but I think the paranoia stems from a genuine issue.

It's always tricky with drug addiction to establish which came first, the mental health difficulties leading to addiction or addiction leading to mental health problems. I think we can all agree though, long term drug use will make mental health worse.

An awful out of us aren't in a team, and complain regularly about the seemingly relentless attempts to categorise in that way

I've been whinging about it intermittently for months!

It's as if people expect the posters here to be deranged when over 90% of us (Justine's words) are not

He said his happiest times were in the Army.

Where when they had a drug test on the base he was allowed to leave. A complete no no in the military, no one is allowed to leave.

But Harry was allowed. So telling! Wonder why??

And have you seen his eyes on the "freedom flight" selfie video. His pupils are sooooo unnaturally large.

He's been protected so long by the RF, and he didn't even realise it or appreciate it.

Pathetic middle aged man.

Everybody's fault but his.

He describes going out for a spliff while everyone else is asleep when they were staying at Tyler Perry’s house.

Is that true? With a young child in the house?

Cannabis use is legal in California. If you're going to clutch your pearls about him having a spliff, then I hope you feel the same way about alcohol.

I cant get past his drug habit.

Cannabis use is legal in California. If you're going to clutch your pearls about him having a spliff, then I hope you feel the same way about alcohol.

I'd have a problem with someone pissed being in charge of a child yes. Plus I've yet to hear about passive drinking.

I think it was a shame he ever left the army, I think an Australian paper printed his location and put him and others at risk. That was a genuinely terrible thing to happen to him IMO and while I have no time for him now I think things could have been very different if he'd only been able to stay in the army.

Still is now I'm sure!

i find it kind of shocking to read he keeps weed in the family home, his children could easily access it.

Most pothead couples have kids and the dad's consumption stays higher and more regular that the mum's.

California is stoner heaven, you can even dump it in the bin at SF airport just before going through security and the airport personnel take it home for later! It explains why he is never coming back!

I understand he couldn't stay in the army as there wasn't a chance in hell he could get promoted any further. He was "lucky" to have even become an officer.

I've never heard a bad word about his time in the army, most comments on arrse are pretty complimentary about him.

I should say were complimentary, not so much now.

I read somewhere that at Meghan and her first husband gave out weed as part favours to guests at their wedding.

If this is true, perhaps both M & H have a relaxed attitude to cannabis, it may be something they enjoy doing together.

*party favours

I know a good few dope smokers (haven’t myself for years because I stopped smoking).

CEO’s, MD’s, lawyers, doctors. Fully functioning well rounded people with - shock! - kids.

A few spliffs a week over years and years doesn’t have to cause a problem.

I doubt this is any great surprise to anyone but you're right OP - there's always been the sense of a missing X factor in the midst of all these revelations and drug related mental health problems could be it. After all William lost his mother too, he had the same experiences as Harry but he seems to be able to keep his shit together.

Many people can smoke cannabis and it's a simple recreational drug. Not ideal, but probably no worse than alcohol. However it can trigger paranoia when started at a young age and used to self medicate existing mental health problems.

It would explain his paranoia.