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What did Prince Harry mean when she said that Camilla was 'dangerous'?

130 replies

Charlize43 · 09/01/2023 08:40

I didn't really understand the explanation he gave in the Anderson Cooper interview, something about her wanting to 'rehabilitate her image'... Why would that be dangerous?

Is it just irrational dislike of his stepmother?

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Calmdown14 · 09/01/2023 12:40

Camilla had an awful time with the press.

Yes they had some effort to show their relationship as a love story (they do seem genuine in their care for each other and if he'd been the spare could probably have settled with her in the first place) but I think it over estimates the control anyone has over the media.

Camilla will have friendly journalists. They all will but it's more in the sense of providing official stories first etc.

Slagging off Meghan didn't serve a purpose for any of them. Camilla is very reserved and doesn't court much of this. Her image has been rehabilitated largely because she's stuck her head down, worked and not caused many issues. Much like Kate and Sophie. The fact they have been in a relationship so long has thawed the views of many towards her but she understood she had to give it time.

Harry and Meghan seem to lack this understanding. If she had got on and worked things would have died down. They'd always be stories but the intensity would diminish.

Kate has been slagged off plenty as have her family. Every royal event prompted money grabbing stories about the family business. Her mother is always described as social climbing. It's been inferred she was sent to st Andrews purely to snare a prince.

Meghan and Harry seem unable to grasp the idea that there's a time and a place. It was Meghan's undoing on the south Africa trip. It was all pretty positive til she did the 'no one's asked how I was'.

Fine in a London interview, totally ridiculous when you've just visited a slum.

Both failed to listen to the pr advice they were given, don't understand that seeking to correct rumours merely confirms their truth and view this as 'being thrown under the bus' rather than the reality that ignoring it is the quickest way to make it go away

AgathaX · 09/01/2023 12:42

Camilla was sleeping with his father before and throughout the marriage to Diana. She even attended the wedding of Charles and Diana. Diana discussed her feelings about this in the television interview

Charles has denied this and says that he resumed his physical relationship with Camilla when his marriage to Diana had broken down. I don't think Camilla's attendance at C & D wedding meant anything sinister, it's simply the done thing in those aristocratic circles. Prince Harry's ex was at his wedding to Meghan. Diana was a loose cannon. I remember well how she came across at the time, and it wasn't as someone who had a complete grip.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/01/2023 12:43

Camilla leaked stories to press with KC knowledge? I doubt it. So why does she get all the blame?

I assume you meant it's unlikely she did it without Charles's knowledge (?), but from memory wasn't it Mark Bolland who was charged with rehabilitating the reputations of both of them?

If so then Charles is hardly off the hook himself, though whether he'll let Camilla take all the public blame remains to be seen

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 12:44

@AgathaX Charles has denied it. Well he would, wouldn't he.

IdidntshagHarry · 09/01/2023 12:44

"LizzieSiddal · Today 12:22
@IdidntshagHarry The journalist this morning on the BBC said that Harry pulled her aside and asked her to run a story on something he was doing and wanted it put out there.
And you don’t see any difference between telling a journalist what you are doing and a member of your family briefing a journo against your wife?"

That was the point I was making....what is the difference between others suggesting stories to run or him suggesting stories to run, it's all briefing.

Currently, he is having a main news item each day on the BBC/ITV/SKY with his latest claims/moans/position of what happened. EVERY SINGLE DAY another claim is aired.... from his book due to be published. He also has had previous interviews including OPRAH where they both aired their truths and the NETFLIX series where they aired their own truths and claims. No one from his family answers back they just go about their business. Perhaps they don't want a tit for tat soap opera over the TV?

One thing I would do if them is NEVER HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH H OR M AGAIN, or record everything you say. You couldn't possibly trust them not to write a book about it or give an interview on it.

Lampzade · 09/01/2023 12:47

Calmdown14 · 09/01/2023 12:40

Camilla had an awful time with the press.

Yes they had some effort to show their relationship as a love story (they do seem genuine in their care for each other and if he'd been the spare could probably have settled with her in the first place) but I think it over estimates the control anyone has over the media.

Camilla will have friendly journalists. They all will but it's more in the sense of providing official stories first etc.

Slagging off Meghan didn't serve a purpose for any of them. Camilla is very reserved and doesn't court much of this. Her image has been rehabilitated largely because she's stuck her head down, worked and not caused many issues. Much like Kate and Sophie. The fact they have been in a relationship so long has thawed the views of many towards her but she understood she had to give it time.

Harry and Meghan seem to lack this understanding. If she had got on and worked things would have died down. They'd always be stories but the intensity would diminish.

Kate has been slagged off plenty as have her family. Every royal event prompted money grabbing stories about the family business. Her mother is always described as social climbing. It's been inferred she was sent to st Andrews purely to snare a prince.

Meghan and Harry seem unable to grasp the idea that there's a time and a place. It was Meghan's undoing on the south Africa trip. It was all pretty positive til she did the 'no one's asked how I was'.

Fine in a London interview, totally ridiculous when you've just visited a slum.

Both failed to listen to the pr advice they were given, don't understand that seeking to correct rumours merely confirms their truth and view this as 'being thrown under the bus' rather than the reality that ignoring it is the quickest way to make it go away

The key difference is that Kate had the support of the palace when the press was criticising her.
Harry and Meghan said that they felt unsupported by the palace and by the Royal Family , which contributed to their sense of alienation

Crazycrazylady · 09/01/2023 12:47

Honestly I can totally see why Harry wants to paint Camilla as the villain , she was the source behind a lot of hi mothers pain and the catalyst for the marriage breakdown.
Honestly though I don't think Camilla cares too much about her public image. She seems happy to take a very supporting role to Charlies on all his engagements and generally appears to stay out of the limelight.
I get the impression her idea of heaven is just being at home in her own garden with Charlie's rather than cutting ribbons on community centres but she adores Charles so she puts up with it.

ArcaneWireless · 09/01/2023 12:47

That was very magnanimous of him, he could just stop using them, including Prince, so why hasn’t he

I might be mistaken but I think I read in the 60mins interview transcript when asked he replied ‘what difference would it make?’

I wonder which version is correct.

And as for continually popping at Camilla?

There may well have been 3 in the marriage. In which case it is unfair to direct your vitriol at just one.

BellePeppa · 09/01/2023 12:48

I just find it so hard to believe that someone who is ‘happy’ has continued to keep his head filled with all these resentments. How can the two work alongside each other? Unless he’s one of those ‘happy being miserable’ types?

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 09/01/2023 12:50

I honestly don't believe Camilla would be arsed to leak stories to the press, even if she'd gain anything from it.

TheHouseElf · 09/01/2023 12:50

wordler · 09/01/2023 12:16

If you mean the ‘three in this marriage’ Diana was actually talking about Tiggy Legge Bourke who Diana had been led to believe (by Martin Bashir) was having an affair with Charles. She got compensation recently for being dragged into that BBC interview unfairly.

No, she was most definitely talking about Camilla. I watched this live at the time - the whole country knew about it, and knew exactly who she meant when she referred to 'three in the marriage'

Newwardrobe · 09/01/2023 12:52

I think if Harry had just stuck to talking about the press leaks , he may have been ok but the fact he has told the world about his brother's circumcision etc makes him a bit hypocritical.

Lampzade · 09/01/2023 12:52

AgathaX · 09/01/2023 12:42

Camilla was sleeping with his father before and throughout the marriage to Diana. She even attended the wedding of Charles and Diana. Diana discussed her feelings about this in the television interview

Charles has denied this and says that he resumed his physical relationship with Camilla when his marriage to Diana had broken down. I don't think Camilla's attendance at C & D wedding meant anything sinister, it's simply the done thing in those aristocratic circles. Prince Harry's ex was at his wedding to Meghan. Diana was a loose cannon. I remember well how she came across at the time, and it wasn't as someone who had a complete grip.

Charles was sleeping with Camilla before and throughout that marriage.
Harry’s ex was at his wedding but they weren’t sleeping together

Echojoke · 09/01/2023 12:52

Harry & Meaghan have done exactly the same I’m sure when they were giving Omid Scobie information and the Finding Freedom book which they had wrongly denied doing

donquixotedelamancha · 09/01/2023 12:54

how do you all know this,
when their affair started or stopped
dont be ridiculous

He was recorded saying he wanted to be inside Camilla so much he was jealous of her tampon, then he admitted it to one of the dimblebys on national telly.

Seriously, just Google it.

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 12:54

"One thing I would do if them is NEVER HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH H OR M AGAIN"

Do you know Harry and Meghan then?

girlmom21 · 09/01/2023 12:58

BradfordGirl · 09/01/2023 12:54

"One thing I would do if them is NEVER HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH H OR M AGAIN"

Do you know Harry and Meghan then?

They'd said "if them" as in, if they were the people Harry's talking about...

LavenderHillMob · 09/01/2023 13:01

AgathaX · 09/01/2023 12:42

Camilla was sleeping with his father before and throughout the marriage to Diana. She even attended the wedding of Charles and Diana. Diana discussed her feelings about this in the television interview

Charles has denied this and says that he resumed his physical relationship with Camilla when his marriage to Diana had broken down. I don't think Camilla's attendance at C & D wedding meant anything sinister, it's simply the done thing in those aristocratic circles. Prince Harry's ex was at his wedding to Meghan. Diana was a loose cannon. I remember well how she came across at the time, and it wasn't as someone who had a complete grip.

Regardless of whether Charles and Camilla rekindled their sexual relationship before or after Diana strayed, there is evidence that their emotional affair was continuous. I don't think its especially unusual for a bride on honeymoon to think their husband contacting a former girlfriend is being unreasonable.

That said. I agree that Harry should take this up with his father not blame Camilla.

And in terms of rehabilitating an image it helps if there is positive stuff to report. There is also a really easy way to stop the press reporting on your bad behaviour.

Lampzade · 09/01/2023 13:08

Whatever you think of Harry you can understand why he has issues with Camilla.
Princess Diana made it clear that Charles’ affair with Camilla was a key factor in her bulimia. Both Harry and William must be aware of this
Then the fact that Camilla is friendly with the likes of Jeremy Clarkson who has written at least two vile articles about Meghan ( one before the luncheon and one the day after the luncheon) one can understand why he may have a problem with Camilla.

Delectable · 09/01/2023 13:16

@Charlize43 how can one watch it in the UK?

BruceAndNosh · 09/01/2023 13:26

The language in the Anderson Cooper interview was v dramatic, talking about Camilla being dangerous and the being "people... bodies in the streets"
Like Camilla is wandering around Horseguards Parade with a fag in one hand and an AK47 in the other

Rockybooboo · 09/01/2023 13:34

Yes that is suspicious.

Chocolateyshakes · 09/01/2023 13:34

In the time after Diana died, public emotion was very much heightened as Diana was hailed as a Saint, which we all know she wasn't. As a result of heightened emotion, Camilla was seen as the villain and therefore a contributor towards Diana's death. She (Camilla) effectively jumped into bed with the press by them writing positive news articles about her in exchange for inside gossip.

MoscowMules · 09/01/2023 13:35

BruceAndNosh · 09/01/2023 13:26

The language in the Anderson Cooper interview was v dramatic, talking about Camilla being dangerous and the being "people... bodies in the streets"
Like Camilla is wandering around Horseguards Parade with a fag in one hand and an AK47 in the other

🤣🤣 I'm sorry but I did chuckle out loud at this mental image.

Her screaming like Rambo with diamond band tiara tied round her forehead "c'mon then ginger, come out to the open, you want bodies bitch" fag hanging out her mouth.

SpookyBlackCat · 09/01/2023 13:44

BellePeppa · 09/01/2023 12:48

I just find it so hard to believe that someone who is ‘happy’ has continued to keep his head filled with all these resentments. How can the two work alongside each other? Unless he’s one of those ‘happy being miserable’ types?

I did watch the AC interview. Whatever he is, it’s not happy. He’s obviously very angry, hurt and bitter. I understand why he feels that way but I don’t see any of this healing the rift. I just wonder what he is going to do after this. At some point he needs accept that he needs to go NC with his family and move on.

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