I am genuinely worried for Harry's mental health now after this

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Give it another week of worldwide chewing over his words and all the drama it's creating, I'm genuinely worried for Harry. How can you go anywhere and hold your head up after you've opened yourself to such ridicule? He might want an un-royal life but he is a prince non-the-less. Where's the dignity? He really, really needs help. I sincerely hope it gets it. The fallout from this won't be forgotten in a hurry. And to top it off, how can he make his family truly secure now?

“Harry said that his father did not hug him after telling him his mother had died.”

He may not have hugged him, but I still remember little Harry automatically reaching behind him for his Dad’s hand when looking at the flowers for his mother, and then-PC grabbing it.

It was a place that Harry worked that flew helicopters. The Mail doesn't care if it's s RAF or Army. It might be important to you but it's a bit pedantic to the rest of us.
Who knows if there's anything to the story? But Harry cracked the door open, he must have known the Mail would be waiting to kick it in completely.

My goodness you are terribly confident about knowing what the childhoods were like of people you don't know, me, Harry, anyone else you want to rubbish presumably.

You clearly confuse confident assertion with evidence and facts, so I'll leave you to it.

I agree that there is something systemic in it all.

There's a great piece by Gaby Hinsliff in the Guardian today:
"The younger prince’s tragedy is that the harder he fights for what he seems to want, which is to matter as much to his family as his older brother does, the further that slips out of reach.

For William doesn’t come out of all this looking good, and since childhood Harry’s function in brutal dynastic terms has been to absorb criticism that might otherwise fall on his older brother. The goal of monarchy is its own survival, which means its instinct is generally to protect the heir at all costs, while the spare – the younger brother – inevitably becomes more disposable. Harry was born the understudy, the plan B, and even then only until his brother had children. Unlike in centuries past, pushing back against this quasi-feudal order of things isn’t going to get him locked up in the Tower, but this is nonetheless a sibling relationship forged with the confines of a family that still considers it reasonable to curtsey to each other. If there’s a lesson to be drawn from all this misery, beyond the bleeding obvious one that there’s something deeply unhealthy about hereditary power, it’s arguably one for parents. For sadly, it’s not only children born into immense privilege who can be left feeling like spares."

Poor little rich boy. Think it’s time for a dna test to see how royal he really is.

I was just trying illustrate that if the media don’t get the basics correct, there a shed load of other stuff they also don’t get right and outright lie about.

I was just thinking….imagine if it’s not Harry who should doing the DNA test.
Now THAT would be a great book!

Oh for goodness' sake.

He's very dim and gullible. I agree that he seems a very sad and pathetic character and his and Meghan's actions have made his future very doubtful. He's been totally manipulated by her agenda and I'm afraid that she'll disappear very soon once his (perceived) glamour and status evaporate. The book seems to be one mis-judged, tone-deaf revelation after another. He's both a laughing-stock and possibly now a terrorist target - what a fool.

Once the world starts to see him as a dim clown and a liability, Meghan will jump ship, I'm sure, and then publish her own no-holds-barred tell-all book for even more dollars. We can then look forward to another round of interviews rubbishing Harry and her life with him...

But for someone who's set himself up as a mental health champion - he's certainly shown little regard for the MH of his family. He caused a lot of anguish for his 'beloved' grandparents at the very end of their lives, didn't he? Totally self-centred and self-obsessed.

It's the hypocrisy that stands out.

He wants the RF to apologise but he's not willing to apologise or admit he's got anything wrong, or that others may have different views. He wants everything his way whilst having absolutely no empathy or consideration for others, including those who work for him seemingly.

He is fed up his security isn't being paid for by the taxpayers of a country where the president of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine said between 300 and 500 avoidable deaths are happening PER WEEK at the moment due to lack of access to timely medical care and collapse of emergency services. Of that 300-500 families PER WEEK losing someone AVOIDABLY, many will involve children losing someone in tragic circumstances in a way which will affect them forever.

So he petulantly released totally inappropriate detail about his time in the military putting himself, his family, his security staff and everyone else at greater risk.

As so many have pointed out, William lost his mother too but he's not throwing everyone (including national security) under the bus.

It sounds like this book is a massive toddler tantrum. From a grown man with immense amounts of money and privilege. That's not excusable.

Surely there should be comparison between Princess Anne and Prince Harry. She was second born but didn’t even get to be the spare due to the then rules of primogeniture. Despite this situation she seems to be the happiest and all round successful of the family.

Er, I was replying to a totally different
poster, my reply was not directed at you Puzzledandpissedoff so I wasn’t assuming anything about you.

Marsha, that is an extremely naive view.
If your reasoning was remotely accurate, and wealth was a protective factor there would be no story to read of Harry's at all, and no thread to post on.

Money and status is not remotely protective once children start school, college, university. They either become targets and/or learn to deal with unwanted attention. Harry has just made his children's lives insufferable. Of course his frostbitten penis will come up over and over again, his Dad having sex like a stallion - killing 25 people etc etc etc I mean seriously do you think his children will ever escape any of this? Because I don't, and we haven't even got started yet on volumes 2 and 3. Not to mention Meghan's 'side' yet to come.

If you loved your children and wanted to protect them from this kind of global nightmare - you would have moved away and led a genuinely quiet life away from LA and memoirs and explosive interviews.
You would know that you were trading away your privacy for cash would involve future generations paying the price.

Harry more than anyone else should have moved heaven and earth to protect his children, but he hasn't. That fact alone will give psychology students case study material for decades to come.

Harry's children stand to suffer exactly the same fate.

Same cycle: Narc parents too busy feeding their own egos and point scoring to notice or care about the children involved.

Cameron survived the book telling the world he had placed his penis in a dead pig's mouth. Boris was filmed live by TV when he couldn't get into his own house as Marina had changed the locks. Clinton survived the Monica Lewinsky saga. I don't think Prince Harry needs to be anymore embarrassed than these men.

She found something she was genuinely good at. While her inheritance might have allowed her to pay for top rate event horses and trainers, it didn’t provide her with the hours and hours of work and effort needed to become an Olympic level rider.

She can do the ‘family firm’ work knowing that she’s more than just the bosses daughter. I’m not sure Harry has that reassurance.

Totally agree with you op.

Oh come off it! The media are the media and always will be. PH literally gave this to them on a plate. Do you think they’re spinning it to make him look bad? Please explain that without cherry picking, in what context his loss of virginity story (for example) could come across well. The book is a total car crash - the media have nothing to do with that.

That is not true. Cameron is always ribbed about it to this day and his kids no doubt have heard nothing else for years.
This is not well known but Tony Blair's children, certainly one of them was suicidal. It is easy to trivialise it until it happens to you.

I don't think it will just be the memoirs that shames the children, but the loss of an entire side of your family will bear scars, the loss of connection, roots, and the endless interviews calling their family 'racists' will all come back and haunt the children.
The Sussexes might claim they were being brave by brandishing their truth to the highest payer but it is likely their children will see through it all, and having lived under the strain of narc parents - they may well look to disappear into obscurity than carry the burden of being a Sussex into adulthood, or they will become just like their parents and cash in on the fame of their connections to the rf- which will be limited and ruined by then and a trickle if they are lucky.

I was initially very worried for his MH but after these vicious and unecessary attacks, he can just fuck off. It wouldn't surprise me if he did attempt suicide or have a breakdown, but my sympathy is now with the family who did nothing to deserve this shit.

I agree with you @Swissmountains . It's a complete mess.

This in abundance. The way some people are talking here as if the they know Harry, William, Kate, Meghan, Charles personally is laughable. Gossiping about people and their emotions like teenagers in the school toilet. We are talking about complicated and complex family relationships. A family that live under the spotlight of the public gaze. Harry is not mad or bad neither is Meghan, Charles, William etc etc. They are people trying to make their way in this world like the rest of us. They mess up (yes even the King of England), treat each other badly and offend each other just like millions of other families up and down the country.

No I think this is different. Scandal does and always will exist, and people move on from things. The reasons that PH wrote a book is the issue in the first place - it’s not an autobiography but instead a continual battle for everyone to see him as the victim - nothing more than a woe is me whinge fest. This sits alongside him supposedly wanting entirely the opposite to what he has managed to achieve. The context here is key.

Cameron survived the book telling the world he had placed his penis in a dead pig's mouth.

WHAT!!!!!

😧😧😧

@SomethingOriginal2 seriously???

He NEEDS this to be written about.

a) If it’s not being written about in the papers people wouldn’t know it had been published and copies wouldn’t sell
b) if he and MM aren’t in the papers they become irrelevant and can’t make any more money to fund their lifestyle
c) if the papers aren’t being critical (and let’s face it they’ve been served up lots to mock and be critical about) then H cannot keep his victim narrative going which seems to be the only thing he has to say

I was not serious suggesting the taxpayer do this, just that he may ask for it.

All these sad episodes in Harrys life, I'm so sorry for him. Still, he's got a lovely, charming wife to look after him.