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pizzaHeart · 06/01/2023 22:58

you don’t know she wasn’t offended. My family members have offended me but we are still close
this^
This story just shows that Eugenie is a nice kind person and loves Harry, maybe feels sorry for him as well. Let see how long she will stay friends with Meghan in case of divorce.

TumbleJots · 06/01/2023 22:58

Now we know that she fell on Diana's gravestone with her palms flat, asking for guidance-I think it's clear why she wasn't wanted at the wedding.

H had probably told his family about this distasteful incident, hoping they would all stand agog at her wonderful, mystic sensitivity. They probably had the same reaction most same people would have.

So, in the light of that-no wonder they didn't want her at the queen's deathbed. What might she have done-rolled around shouting, 'Her spirit is upon me as it passes, guiding me and telling me that I am her true heir-she passes her mantle unto me, Meghan.'

TumbleJots · 06/01/2023 22:58

Not wanted at the queen's deathbed-obviously-not wedding!

SomeonesKnockingAtTheDoorSomeonesRingingTheBell · 06/01/2023 23:00

Legrandetraitor · 06/01/2023 22:46

Which part of it?

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I fucking told everyone this at the time! Everyone was like “no way, the press are just being mean to Meghan she would never do that”

The announcement at the wedding. how did you know?

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Legrandetraitor · 06/01/2023 23:01

TumbleJots · 06/01/2023 22:58

Now we know that she fell on Diana's gravestone with her palms flat, asking for guidance-I think it's clear why she wasn't wanted at the wedding.

H had probably told his family about this distasteful incident, hoping they would all stand agog at her wonderful, mystic sensitivity. They probably had the same reaction most same people would have.

So, in the light of that-no wonder they didn't want her at the queen's deathbed. What might she have done-rolled around shouting, 'Her spirit is upon me as it passes, guiding me and telling me that I am her true heir-she passes her mantle unto me, Meghan.'

I think this story is the best example for the division in how people see Meghan.

Some people - like Harry - genuinely see this as some fabulous, warm and loving act

other people - like his family and friends - see this as a manipulative movement designed to ensnare a very damaged man with serious issues due to his mother’s death

I really don’t know how people can see it as the former, but apparently they can!

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Loveinacandle · 06/01/2023 23:01

Legrandetraitor · 06/01/2023 22:25

Prince Harry has said himself he has lost a lot of friends. It’s not a reach to assume it’s because they’ve voiced concern over his behaviour

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Yes, yes it is a reach. Sometimes when you grow up get married etc, you lose contact with people. Sometimes you even choose to move away from people. Maybe those people saw a change in him and moved on, nothing to suggest that change was negative. I think most people can attest to that, it’s a pretty standard thing that happens when we grow up, friendships and relationships change. Unless we are saying that Megan was the change and Harry is at the very least a victim of her control and manipulation? Nothing at all to suggest that other than, no one likes her. Maybe she is a complete bitch and it’s all justified. But maybe she isn’t. My point is there is a very strong desire from most of these threads to only see this situation in one way, when the evidence for that is flimsy at best.

Gilmorehill · 06/01/2023 23:03

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 06/01/2023 22:30

Aside from anything else, isn't it quite unusual to 'announce' a pregnancy at such an early stage?

This was my first thought. I waited until about 12 weeks, after the first scan.

Definitely. I denied and denied until I’d passed the 12 week mark.

Busybutbored · 06/01/2023 23:04

Pottyaboutplants · 06/01/2023 22:46

Oh give over. Somebody telling other family members they were expecting a baby during somebody else’s wedding reception is not an issue unless the bride is twelve years old! There are far bigger problems in the world.

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But why would you even do it if you weren't sure? I just find it weird to not consider people's feelings, whether I agree with it or not

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Legrandetraitor · 06/01/2023 23:05

SomeonesKnockingAtTheDoorSomeonesRingingTheBell · 06/01/2023 23:00

I fucking told everyone this at the time! Everyone was like “no way, the press are just being mean to Meghan she would never do that”

The announcement at the wedding. how did you know?

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As I’ve said on several threads I know 2 people. A member of the family (not one of the top names though) and a member of staff. So I find out various pieces of information from time to time. Eg I knew about the queen dying before it was made public. And the Meghan not being allowed. And everyone calling Harry “that twat” when he was late. And the fact everyone in the palace hates meghan.

many things I am just surmising based on things I know and I could be very wrong. The pregnancy is one of the things I had heard, but to be fair I would have guessed based on her outfit!

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Legrandetraitor · 06/01/2023 23:07

Loveinacandle · 06/01/2023 23:01

Yes, yes it is a reach. Sometimes when you grow up get married etc, you lose contact with people. Sometimes you even choose to move away from people. Maybe those people saw a change in him and moved on, nothing to suggest that change was negative. I think most people can attest to that, it’s a pretty standard thing that happens when we grow up, friendships and relationships change. Unless we are saying that Megan was the change and Harry is at the very least a victim of her control and manipulation? Nothing at all to suggest that other than, no one likes her. Maybe she is a complete bitch and it’s all justified. But maybe she isn’t. My point is there is a very strong desire from most of these threads to only see this situation in one way, when the evidence for that is flimsy at best.

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She went to a hunt at one of his friend’s houses. She took along a yoga instructor with her. She lectured everybody about the ethics of hunting and tried to get them to do yoga instead.

she was not invited back and people started to think Harry had totally lost the plot, and told him so.

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HaroldandWilly · 06/01/2023 23:08

The more I read about this book, the more I realise what an absolute wally Harold is!

SomeonesKnockingAtTheDoorSomeonesRingingTheBell · 06/01/2023 23:09

@Legrandetraitor ah ok! Thanks for the reply, that's really interesting!

PicturesOfDogs · 06/01/2023 23:14

TumbleJots · 06/01/2023 22:58

Now we know that she fell on Diana's gravestone with her palms flat, asking for guidance-I think it's clear why she wasn't wanted at the wedding.

H had probably told his family about this distasteful incident, hoping they would all stand agog at her wonderful, mystic sensitivity. They probably had the same reaction most same people would have.

So, in the light of that-no wonder they didn't want her at the queen's deathbed. What might she have done-rolled around shouting, 'Her spirit is upon me as it passes, guiding me and telling me that I am her true heir-she passes her mantle unto me, Meghan.'

Sorry, what? That’s a spoof surely.
fucking hell 🤣😂

Loveinacandle · 06/01/2023 23:14

Soapnutty · 06/01/2023 22:45

Sorry I am a bit confused by what you are trying to say in some parts of your post above. When you write it is just as likely that H & M account is true, are you referring to their overall account of their time as working royals together or H sharing he and Meghan announced their pregnancy on Eugenie’s wedding day? I presume former as we know they announced it on Eugenie’s wedding day as H has shared this in his book. Or perhaps you are saying H and M knew Eugenie would not mind? That is possible, but if they had not told her they were going to announce it then I personally would view it as good manners to not say anything on the day as though some might not mind many would.

On your general note that the media (not all are anti H and M, but majority are) will be framing the narrative around the book’s revelations in the worse possible light of H and M, I don’t disagree as readers we should be aware of this. However, so far some of H’s revelations are not showing him in a great light even without a negative media spin. As I said in a previous post like most disagreements amongst friends/family, all involved will have some legitimate grievances to varying degrees and I am sure the same applies to H and M, but from H’s own words so far he doesn’t seem willing to acknowledge any fault in the fall out.

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Yes I am making your former point. I don’t think that we can say that all what H&M have said generally is untrue. They have made some points that don’t show them in a positive light for instance, you could argue that this is a degree of reflection?

I am not a huge fan of them or the RF as a whole. I just think that everything H&M say is being spun and there is no balance to it. In my opinion, a lot of what they say is likely but actually, no one knows. What we do know is, all of it should be taken with a pinch of salt. Labelling them as lying, narcissistic, wedding ruining, bullying idiots seems very out of proportion to me, if we take account for what we actually know is true rather than just our speculation. Or at least speculate logically so we can form a reasonable opinion. It’s so lazy to just blame Megan the older American, non white female, instead of recognising that this whole family is a shitshow and probably a disaster waiting to happen!

User963 · 06/01/2023 23:14

Why would you even announce it at 6-7 weeks pregnant. Tell a select few maybe but not announce it surely ?

Pottyaboutplants · 06/01/2023 23:16

Busybutbored · 06/01/2023 23:04

But why would you even do it if you weren't sure? I just find it weird to not consider people's feelings, whether I agree with it or not

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Because seriously if people were so immature I’d think that's their problem.

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Legrandetraitor · 06/01/2023 23:16

Loveinacandle · 06/01/2023 23:14

Yes I am making your former point. I don’t think that we can say that all what H&M have said generally is untrue. They have made some points that don’t show them in a positive light for instance, you could argue that this is a degree of reflection?

I am not a huge fan of them or the RF as a whole. I just think that everything H&M say is being spun and there is no balance to it. In my opinion, a lot of what they say is likely but actually, no one knows. What we do know is, all of it should be taken with a pinch of salt. Labelling them as lying, narcissistic, wedding ruining, bullying idiots seems very out of proportion to me, if we take account for what we actually know is true rather than just our speculation. Or at least speculate logically so we can form a reasonable opinion. It’s so lazy to just blame Megan the older American, non white female, instead of recognising that this whole family is a shitshow and probably a disaster waiting to happen!

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I realise the media is spinning things negatively but people are also just reading direct quotes from the stallion’s mouth and coming to their own conclusions

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Pottyaboutplants · 06/01/2023 23:19

User963 · 06/01/2023 23:14

Why would you even announce it at 6-7 weeks pregnant. Tell a select few maybe but not announce it surely ?

Unthread they said they told some family members. They didn’t make a big announcement. The word announce is being focussed on as H used thst word but then went on to say they told some family members. No big deal.

FiloPasty · 06/01/2023 23:19

I also want to put my hand up as a former supporter, honestly I’m so bored by it all, so self indulgent. I just hope that everyone has heard enough and don’t bother buying the book!

TumbleJots · 06/01/2023 23:20

PicturesOfDogs · 06/01/2023 23:14

Sorry, what? That’s a spoof surely.
fucking hell 🤣😂

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Sadly, not a spoof!
Apparently, in the book, Harry describes how he and Megan went over to the island where hismother is buried. He realised that she wanted private time and when he came back she was down in front of the stone, with her palms flat upon it, asking for guidance.

Who knows what her agenda was but I can't help thinking it was tailored exactly to make him think that his wife and his mother shared an ethereal bond.

He thanked his mother for guiding him to Megan.

FiloPasty · 06/01/2023 23:20

Not that I’ve ever been on here banging their drum, more a silent supporter but still, I think opinion must have really swayed in the wrong way over the last few days.

TumbleJots · 06/01/2023 23:22

If you google Megan+ Diana's Grave-you will find newspaper reports quoting Harry's own words from the book,

FromEden · 06/01/2023 23:22

Also a bit narcissistic to have to be centre of attention

Lol, what a ridiculous statement. It was her wedding day fgs! Of course she, and her husband, should be the centre of attention. It's narcissistic to try and overshadow that with your own news but they do have form for trying to steal the thunder of members of the royal family and make every event about them. Even the queen dying had to involve their drama. They are a pair of selfish, self centered arseholes.

PicturesOfDogs · 06/01/2023 23:23

TumbleJots · 06/01/2023 23:22

If you google Megan+ Diana's Grave-you will find newspaper reports quoting Harry's own words from the book,

Honestly, I regret the day I said no one wants to read his book.
I take it all back.

This is absolutely gold

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 06/01/2023 23:23

Where are you getting this info? People are just blindly believing the OP