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Oh no Chelsea Davy didn't escape either😩 obviously megs didn't proof read!

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Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 05:52

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-spare-chelsy-davy-b2256986.html?amp

These were such a fun, carefree couple. How different his life would be now had they stayed together. Chelsea was very much part of the aristo set, clever, savvy & very well educated. She knew exactly what royal life entailed & ran a mile when things got serious. Smart girl.

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Brefugee · 06/01/2023 11:54

you are so ignorant it feels like you are doing it in purpose ?

it's slightly deranged but it's entertaining me in my lunch-break so... šŸ˜„

But, OP, is she British? Is she Zimbabwean? is she both? Inquiring minds want to know.

But here's one: i was born in England but I'm German. Well, British and German. It wouldn't matter what colour i am, I'd be British.

If i had been born in SA, i can't remember how old Davey is or when Apartheid was ended, but the chances are she was noted as white. And shorthand for that among some people i know is "European".

Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 11:55

thewire.in/world/where-are-you-really-from-uk-royal-household-member-resigns-over-racism-allegations

Really so that's how you would describe Chelsea? Racism works both ways. @Justwonderinghow
Now read the article above & tell me how you would describe this lady. To me she is British due to her plage of birth & where she was raised. But you have such strong views on Chelsea's heritage due to her skin colour & place of birth.
How would you describe the lady in the article who was questioned about her heritage??????

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Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 11:56

@Brefugee how would you describe the lady in the article above please? You are such an expert on heritage given your indepth knowledge of Chelsea's!

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Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 12:00

@Brefugee why won't you answer when the skin colours are reversed šŸ¤”šŸ¤”šŸ¤”

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Justwonderinghow · 06/01/2023 12:02

Also, you are just proving Meghan’s point. Comparing two different women who are likely to have different experiences in life. Completely othering her experience.
Her being white African will not likely have a detriment like it would have on a black African such as just out the top of my head: experience racism

Bring labelled aggressive when trying to stand up for herself

Being denying medical help due to unconscious stereotype.
Having to alter your hair to fit in( this would definitely be the case if she was to enter the Royal family, as you cannot have ā€œunkeptā€
If Chelsea was African with kinky hair, people would treat her deferent.

I hope the person married to your brother in law knows better, else it will be disastrous for any potential children.
Also race is not the same as nationality.
this is so frustrating.

Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 12:07

@Justwonderinghow I asked you to explain how you describe that woman in the same way you did Chelsea? Chelsea has identified herself as a proud African from Zimbabwe
This woman was confused when asked where she was from & replied British. But you are an expert. Please give your thoughts on this as you describe Chelsea as European šŸ¤”
thewire.in/world/where-are-you-really-from-uk-royal-household-member-resigns-over-racism-allegations
Please explain!

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AreOttersJustWetCats · 06/01/2023 12:09

This thread is such blatant dog whistle goading

Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 12:11

No one can answer the question about that poor woman but have plenty to say about Chelsea's heritage!
@Justwonderinghow are you talking about Meghan's hair? It was always perfectly straight in suits, well before she even heard of Prince Harry 🤣

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Justwonderinghow · 06/01/2023 12:11

Saying Chelsea is white African is not racist. It’s a fact.
the lady in the article would be black British.
my daughter who is mixed -black african( me) and white (Italian dad) would be mixed British .

my sister who was born in Portuguese would be black/Afro Portuguese.
is this the best you can do op?!
again, race and nationality are not the same.

Rockybooboo · 06/01/2023 12:12

MrsMaxDeWinter · 06/01/2023 06:37

You are missing the dog whistle in the OP's post my dear. She says: They all looked very similar. He had a type. Blonde, slim, athletic & aristocratic

The one missing word is white. OP is saying Harry's life would be different but for the fact that he did marry his type and instead married a non-white woman who is not his type.

Meghan, you see is not blonde, slim, athletic & aristocratic, the only criteria he needed in a wife. Never mind that he is clearly besotted with his wife and the mother of his children, oh no, blonde white Chelsy is the one who got away.

I picked up on it on another thread by the OP. It's really upset. Why is Mumsnet letting this go?

Rockybooboo · 06/01/2023 12:14

NonTense · 06/01/2023 07:04

Also, the blonde, slim stuff is nonsense. I actually think Meghan and Chelsea are quite similar 'types'. it's not just about complexion is it, there is more to a type, both women come across as strong, wilful, sweet looking and fun. Chelsea did not come across as bitchy though, unlike Meghan who has that affected tone.

I never heard Chelsea speak. Have you heard her speak?

Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 12:15

White African is not racist but calling someone who is born & bred & raised in Africa European is racist & ignorant. Why can't any of you experts answer the question about the poor woman above. How would you describe her?

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Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 12:16

Rockybooboo · 06/01/2023 12:14

I never heard Chelsea speak. Have you heard her speak?

I didn't post this!

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Rockybooboo · 06/01/2023 12:18

MrsMaxDeWinter · 06/01/2023 07:09

OP is shit stirring, Harry talks of Chelsy with great affection, saying he understands why she could not deal with the royal life. He calls her "Chels", says she is fun, uncomplicated, and has warm things to say about her.

ā€œI loved Chels’ ease, that she wasn’t complicated,ā€ he said, according to Page Six. ā€œShe didn’t care what anyone thought. She wore miniskirts and high-heeled boots, danced however she wanted, drank tequila like me, and all of this made me really happy. I couldn’t help what my grandmother thought about it. Or the people. And the last thing I wanted was for Chels to change to please them.ā€

How Meghan comes into it, the OP has not explained, but as Chelsy came to their wedding, and was Harry's longest relationship, longer even that Meghan's marriage to her first husband Trevor, I would say her existence is no surprise to Meghan.

The fact that Meghan was happy to have Chelsey at the wedding knowing Harry had loved goes against the theory that Meghan is a a controlling birch.

Justwonderinghow · 06/01/2023 12:20

And you haven’t answered why you said Chelsea being white African has any relevance. if she was to enter the royal family she would be part of a fairly homogeneous group so again, what’s your point. Also, explain, using your words, what is racism? (500 words limit) 🤣

Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 12:25

I never called her white African. I said she was African & Zimbabwean, I never referred to her skin colour. YOU called her white African & I agreed it's not racist in the same way African American isn't racist.
So I asked you first, go ahead & describe this woman who identifies as British. Just as Chelsea identifies as a Zimbabwean African

thewire.in/world/where-are-you-really-from-uk-royal-household-member-resigns-over-racism-allegations

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Coucous · 06/01/2023 12:26

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Rockybooboo · 06/01/2023 12:27

IveHadEnoughNowFfs · 06/01/2023 08:05

No it’s not ā€œwell saidā€ it’s inflammatory nonsense.

They aren’t similar at all. Meghan always needs a platform, she’s brash, opinionated, bullies her way into what she wants. His previous partners weren’t courting the press or talk show hosts for air time. They aren’t the same.

But no it’s because Meghan isn’t white?

I refuse to be one of those people shamed into not having an opinion or even pointing out basic facts by people who shout ā€œracistā€ to try and shut down a narrative they don’t agree with.

What's wrong with having opinions and being brash. Aren't women allowed to have opinions and aren't you using the platform to express yous?

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Rockybooboo · 06/01/2023 12:28

SpringsRightAroundTheCorner · 06/01/2023 08:08

Had he married her, you'd be sat here ripping her to shreds on thread after thread much like you do with his current wife. Whoever he'd have married the press were going to go after her and create what they have with meghan. Make people hate her, sell more papers. His ex gf had been with him for quite a long time, she realised it was only going to get worse so she got out. Harry got with meghan in his 30s, it was time to settle down so he married her pretty quickly. She probably though having already had a taste of fame "how worse can it be, people already know who I am". I doubt she realised they will try and destroy her life printing stories most of which are made up.

Well said

Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 12:29

@Coucous no Chelsea wasn't aristocratic but her social circle was!

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Nurserymumm · 06/01/2023 12:31

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@Justwonderinghow waiting patiently🤣🤣 you are an expert, please give your insight into this British woman's heritage. Why can't you answer? šŸ¤”

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Justwonderinghow · 06/01/2023 12:41

I didn’t say Meghan hair! I said if Harry was to Harry an African woman who happened to black .
Also the fact that you laughted at my comment regarding hair and bringing up the fact that Meghan’s hair was straight during suits showing how ignorant you are and should use the word racism sac causality as you are using.
you clearly have no knowledge of what black people specifically women have endured. Many have had to change their hairs to fit in because of extreme Eurocentric beauty standards.
Who Says Meghan’s didn’t do that as well. Hollywood is well know for likening your typical slim, straight hair woman.