To think physical fights between two brothers in their thirties is bloody weird - why are people normalising it?

[ncpostingabout]

William and Harry had a physical fight in their thirties - sorry but this is not acceptable and is plain effin weird.

And I have not been a h and m supporter in any way I think they're ridiculous but this is shocking that every tv programme and commentary about this is like - oh well it's just brothers fighting?!!

So we are condoning violence now in 2022?

No one has the right to be physical with anyone, not even brothers - AIBU? (Please be subjective even if you dislike Harry!)

i have experience of adult brothers bizarrely regressing when they are in each others company. These are brothers in their 30s/40s/50s with responsible jobs but when together they could still be kids or teenagers. They provoke / atagonise and in certain situations, fight or become physical.
I wouldn't condone this behaviour...I agree though that it is uncomfortable how people are normalising or joking about it as a result of this

WTF? you are normalising it though by keeping contact with your brothers. My brothers and sisters are all in their 30s and 40s and if they ever became physical with each other in a fight I'd be having serious words with them and be utterly disgusted and see them in a very different light.

If they did it a 2nd time I'd be cutting contact and if kids were around I'd be calling the cops and reporting it. If anything it's a safeguarding issue especially if kids are around to see it or in the same house. And I'm no prude either, me and my mother would scream at each other some times in rows but we would never lift a finger to each other. That's just a whole different level.

I think most siblings, if living in close proximity, working for the same 'firm' and being constantly judged by each other's behaviour, would clash verbally or physically in the end. This situation doesn't seem all that extreme to me, and that's supposing that it's truthful. Most of us head off in different directions from our siblings as soon as we reach adulthood, for good reason.

I think most siblings, if living in close proximity, working for the same 'firm' and being constantly judged by each other's behaviour, would clash verbally or physically in the end. This situation doesn't seem all that extreme to me, and that's supposing that it's truthful

I know many siblings who live in each others pockets as adults, live beside each other and the kids are raised like siblings. There might be the odd dispute verbally or disagreement but they would never attack each other, I'm shocked this is being condoned or normalised here.

Hi Op @ncpostingabout ,

I think this meme sums up your entire post, Harry is full of shit end of.

I think this meme sums up your entire post, Harry is full of shit end of

the op isn't disputing Harry's version being true or not, that's not the point she was pointing out and irrelevant. She was pointing out how people are normalising it like it's not an issue and trivial-2 adult brothers in their 30s physically fighting.

@pillow56 exactly thank you because whoever's version is true doesn't discount that fact they were fighting - we know a fight of some sort took place,

That's the weird part! Not who started it

I know many siblings who live in each others pockets as adults, live beside each other and the kids are raised like siblings.

@pillow56 That would be by choice presumably because they enjoy living that way. Most wouldn't. This family is forced together and that must make the dynamics very different.

How do we know? How? Because he said so? He’s said a lot that we know isn’t true.

This could be true, it could be entirely invented, it could be partially true, it could’ve been a true story but the aggressor was a different person, it could’ve been a true story where the victim was a different person, it could’ve happened with the roles switched… There are lots of options. How do we all know it’s true in your assessment? I certainly don’t know whether it’s true or not.

exactly thank you because whoever's version is true doesn't discount that fact they were fighting - we know a fight of some sort took place,
That's the weird part! Not who started it

Well yes but even if the whole thing is a lie it's more the fact that people are as you say in your op normalising it like it's standard or not a big deal. It apparently happened in 2019 so harry was 34/35 then and William was 36/37ish then they were grown men and well into adult hood.

Old enough to have adult children even and be grandparents. If they were teenage lads or in their early 20s I'd think meh due to their youth but they weren't and both near middle age by the time so yes it's cringy, bad form and unacceptable.

Royal Family as common as Royale Family shock!🤣🤣🤣

And what's worse, William doesn't even seem repentant. It's disgraceful.

I didn't say they were my siblings (they're not) and I didn't say I was still in contact. I have certainly seen instances of older male siblings acting the way Harry describes. As I said, I don't condone it and think it's wrong and when I saw it (no children were present or involved) I spoke up and took issue with those involved. I only said that I have seen it happen so it is not wholly unbelievable to me. On another occasion I was shocked when the (adult) partner of a relative casually mentioned in conversation how his (adult) brother treated him when they shared a house together. I certainly don't condone any of this but it clearly can and does happen!

I don't know why it's being normalised OP or such a pile-on. It is dysfunctional as fuck and no, of course, Harry couldn't have called the police for assault.

I didn't say they were my siblings (they're not) and I didn't say I was still in contact. I have certainly seen instances of older male siblings acting the way Harry describes. As I said, I don't condone it and think it's wrong and when I saw it (no children were present or involved) I spoke up and took issue with those involved. I only said that I have seen it happen so it is not wholly unbelievable to me. On another occasion I was shocked when the (adult) partner of a relative casually mentioned in conversation how his (adult) brother treated him when they shared a house together. I certainly don't condone any of this but it clearly can and does happen!

On their 'through examination' podcast Chris and Xand van Tulleken say they still physically fight sometimes.

Seems like too much effort to me.

Im falling about tbh, its brothers innit? Im more astonished that Harry feels is ok to lose his virginity at 16/17 with an older woman (how old?) but Andrew is slated for allegiedly having sex with a 16/17 year old.

I don’t think it’s normal or right for adult siblings to physically fight but it happens. I presume those I’ve seen on here minimising William lashing out, are either doing it as they don’t like Harry, or they’re from dysfunctional families themselves and genuinely think it’s normal. The RF do seem dysfunctional and I can completely believe this could have happened.

Taking William and Harry our of it, there’s been a lot of victim blaming talk. Lots of ‘men that are rich, well built or ex soldiers, can’t possibly be hit or knocked down, which just isn’t true. Victims don’t look a certain way and I’ve been disgusted at many posters attitudes, when they don’t like the victim, violence is apparently funny.

OUT of it

I don't think Harry was trafficked

Of course it’s weird and not ok but the man also bragged about killing 25 people so I’m not going to cry for him.

No you're still normalising people making accusations in books for profit, and believing whatever they write.

How do you know that?
Do you have video evidence? Where you there? Has it been susbstantiated by eye witnesses?

You are normalising people making serious accusations for profit without evidence.

Harry couldn't have called the police for assault

By “call” presumably you mean telephone but he didn’t need to telephone he could have shouted out the window - uniform police are all over the palaces plus he has his own personal protection. Help was not far away if required.

We know that H+M have lied and that they always interpret events so that they are the victims and everyone else is the aggressor. None of us know what happened and we're unlikely to ever know the truth. But I wouldn't trust a word that he says. I also think it's interesting that he says W "knocked" him to the ground. If it had been a punch surely Harry would have delighted in using more dramatic words.