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To think physical fights between two brothers in their thirties is bloody weird - why are people normalising it?

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ncpostingabout · 05/01/2023 19:06

William and Harry had a physical fight in their thirties - sorry but this is not acceptable and is plain effin weird.

And I have not been a h and m supporter in any way I think they're ridiculous but this is shocking that every tv programme and commentary about this is like - oh well it's just brothers fighting?!!

So we are condoning violence now in 2022?

No one has the right to be physical with anyone, not even brothers - AIBU? (Please be subjective even if you dislike Harry!)

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Lampzade · 06/01/2023 03:12

Hadtochangeforthisone · 05/01/2023 21:49

He killed 25 people .. but couldn't defend himself against his brother ...

He really needs to get a life .. a life away fro this shit as HE requested.

Ridiculous comment

MarshaMelrose · 06/01/2023 03:17

Robert Lacey already wrote about this incident so we can be pretty sure an altercation took place. Harrys version is light on detail. Laceys had more detail. It's pretty certain it didn't all go quite like Harry's selective memory suggests.

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/01/2023 03:33

It's not that unusual round our way. 🤷‍♀️ Mostly at weddings or funerals.

Summatoruvva · 06/01/2023 03:58

I call bullshit on it. The suggestion a man sitting at a table having a glass of water suddenly leaps up to attack a relative without serious provocation is unbelievable. H and M are unhinged grifters and this is the final nail.

NeighHarry · 06/01/2023 04:12

I can't imagine parking my sibling in the dog bowl, washing up bowl, fruit bowl or any other bowl for that matter.
What I can imagine though is Harold shouting.... don't you speak about my wife like that, you rotter!
And Willie shouting back.... take that you bounder and slapping Harold's face with his gloves, causing him to park his pedigree rump in the dog bowl.

Justyouwaitandseeagain · 06/01/2023 04:17

i have experience of adult brothers bizarrely regressing when they are in each others company. These are brothers in their 30s/40s/50s with responsible jobs but when together they could still be kids or teenagers. They provoke / atagonise and in certain situations, fight or become physical.
I wouldn't condone this behaviour, but sadly don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that siblings can and do behave like this.
I do think that with H&M it is odd the way these incidents seem to be dripfeed for maximum shock (and financial) benefit. I think this is why some people have limited sympathy or patience.
I agree though that it is uncomfortable how people are normalising or joking about it as a result of this.
I don't think any of this is working out well for anyone.

pillow56 · 06/01/2023 04:26

Agreed op. I'd get it if they were 15 but in their 30s it's just cringy and totally inappropriate as they are grown adults.

pillow56 · 06/01/2023 04:29

I have 2 older brothers, this is quite believable. Extreme, but not unbelievable

what age are they ? 14 and 15? omg it's so cringy

pillow56 · 06/01/2023 04:38

Most brothers in their thirties, do not live in the same building, albeit in separate areas.
W & H simply live close to one another, work for the same firm, liaise closely on business matters. Do engagements together. Their families are closely intertwined, far more than normal. They are partners in a company together, and therefore quite likely to get into heated altercations.
My brother lives miles away and i see him on high days and holidays. We don't fight for that reason

wtf? Many brothers/sisters I know at that age work together and live close to each other and generally have close contact with each other. Whilst they might have disagreements they would NEVER in a million years fight physically with one another.
You can fight with a sibling verbally at any age but physically in adulthood is just a whole different level and I can't imagine any brothers I know or sisters in their 30s and up having a physical fight. Shocked on this thread to hear people saying it does.

pillow56 · 06/01/2023 04:52

I remember reading in one of the Kemps autobiographies (not sure which one), they used to come to blows in the band all the time
No one will start a thread about that though

because they are z list celebs from an 80s band that nobody gives a shit about anymore who broke up well over 30 years ago. Yea they had their comeback in the 2000s but who even noticed it?

Plus they were all in their 20s during the band's era that they talked about in the book. Many people are still immature then, by the 30s you are expected to be grown up and matured.
Also they were a boyband, William is the next king of England, a father and a role model. Resorting to violence at his age with his position is not a good or appropriate look.

strugglin101 · 06/01/2023 05:02

I find it incredibly weird that people just can't understand context

Are we supposed to feel sorry for one of the most privileged people in the World?

Here, give me a few hundred million a nice mansion in the US and someone can push me onto a dog bowl

The guy's actually written a book called 'spare', should have been called highly privileged ninny

Wah wah wah. Make some kind of point about 'normalisation' of family violence or whatever because some privileged prince is whining again. Pretty much everyone has cottoned onto this nonsense except you OP.

strugglin101 · 06/01/2023 05:05

Anon778833 · 05/01/2023 20:01

Of course it's weird. I really like how this whole thing has blown up and the toxicity of what it means to be trapped in the RF has been exposed.

Royalists are majorly pissed off because their perfect illusion of the RF is now in tatters and their identity hangs on the fact they were born in
a country which has the RF. They'll have to find something else now....

Trapped in the RF. Wow, you life must be really really amazing to think that's trapped. Are you part of another Royal family?

😂

strugglin101 · 06/01/2023 05:07

ncpostingabout · 05/01/2023 19:09

Hmmmm but assuming he is being truthful which noone seems to be disputing about this particular instance, the general reaction is - brothers always fight

The general reaction is shut up harry. It's trending now.

Seriously, prince, mansion, a few hundred million and moaning about getting pushed onto a dog bowl. 😂

Coucous · 06/01/2023 05:29

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vera99 · 06/01/2023 05:37

Rockybooboo · 05/01/2023 20:05

Yes although with Charles cheating on his first wife and confessing to it on live TV Philip's racist remarks and well Andrew being Andrew, they probably already know they've been gasl ighted.

The Queen was dawn near perfect wasn't she and therin lies the problem how do you follow her as an old divorced man with history,in an undeferential world where everything can be known and commented on and with your youngest son gone rogue as we advance into a cost of living and a national identity crisis. Short answer is you can't.

healthadvice123 · 06/01/2023 06:48

@pillow56 but still all human

ncpostingabout · 06/01/2023 07:58

pillow56 · 06/01/2023 04:52

I remember reading in one of the Kemps autobiographies (not sure which one), they used to come to blows in the band all the time
No one will start a thread about that though

because they are z list celebs from an 80s band that nobody gives a shit about anymore who broke up well over 30 years ago. Yea they had their comeback in the 2000s but who even noticed it?

Plus they were all in their 20s during the band's era that they talked about in the book. Many people are still immature then, by the 30s you are expected to be grown up and matured.
Also they were a boyband, William is the next king of England, a father and a role model. Resorting to violence at his age with his position is not a good or appropriate look.

Exactly my point. But because it's Harry and people are fed up whining it is soundly clouding the toxicity of his brothers actions

Fwiw Harry is a complete joke - I am beyond disgusted by his tell all antics but I still think William is taking the p and a future king should not behave like this

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Divebar2021 · 06/01/2023 08:11

I wouldn't condone this behaviour, but sadly don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that siblings can and do behave like this

Agree with this - but what you find is adults who are aggressive didn’t just start in their 30’s and 40’s there has been a pattern that has continued from being young. If you’ve never assaulted or attacked a sibling before what would need to happen to trigger you to do it today?

Hadtochangeforthisone · 06/01/2023 08:15

Xaviera

Hadtochangeforthisone
He killed 25 people .. but couldn't defend himself against his brother ...

He really needs to get a life .. a life away fro this shit as HE requested.

The most stupid 'argument' I've ever heard 🤔

No . This pathetic whinging by one of the worlds most privileged people is 'stupid' . I am incredulous that there are so many gullible people who swallow all this guff . Harry knows he can say anything- because the palace will never feed this nonsense with a response.

He is a really pathetic figure who will end up like Edward VIll. Despised by his entire family. Living in an imaginary world where he would be king if only he hadn't been born second (boohoo) . Surrounded by sycophants telling him and his wife what they want to hear..

It is horrid being second with the requirement that your wife and you are expected to show deference to your older brother and his wife.Especially when that wife chose a professional career of being in the limelight..and was then required to play second fiddle.
However, as he seems extremely happy to call himself Prince and Duke - it is logical to assume he supports the monarchy.. and that means succession rules apply.
He was indeed 'the spare' but that role finished a decade ago !!

Perhaps if his wife went back to acting she would get a regular fix of attention and Harry could stop bleating for 5 minutes about how awful his life is.. in a climate where people really do have serious problems to worry about.

PearlclutchersInc · 06/01/2023 08:21

IncessantNameChanger · 05/01/2023 19:12

I haven't heard anyone normalising it yet. H didn't say how he was knocked over? Knocked off his feet? Knocked out with a punch? Tripped backwards over the dog bowl?

It's extremely dysfunctional and toxic at best

A lot of families are dysfunctional and the RF falls into that category in spades.

It's unlikely we'll ever hear the other side of the story to get the full picture of what really happened.

Shame really

SallyWD · 06/01/2023 08:24

I have 2 brothers and the thought of any of us shoving each other other over or screaming in each others faces is just appalling! It would never, ever happen. People are just dismissing what William did because he's seen as the good guy but it's really not on. I've heard so many stories about Williams bad temper.
And yes, I'm fed up with Harry too and feel he's gone way too far.

CaveMum · 06/01/2023 09:28

I can't get that excited about it to be honest. Is it right? No. Is it totally out of the realms of possibility for two brothers to fight, whatever their age? Also no.

It all sounds a bit Handbags at Dawn to me The implication is that there was some shouting, a shove, someone ended up on the floor and a necklace and a dog bowl were broken. Not exactly Tyson Fury v Anthony Joshua is it?

More Colin Firth v Hugh Grant I imagine.

vera99 · 06/01/2023 09:31

Edward 8th was an actual traitor and Nazi sympathiser whatever Harry will be in his life he won't stoop thatow.

Rockybooboo · 06/01/2023 10:00

vera99 · 06/01/2023 05:37

The Queen was dawn near perfect wasn't she and therin lies the problem how do you follow her as an old divorced man with history,in an undeferential world where everything can be known and commented on and with your youngest son gone rogue as we advance into a cost of living and a national identity crisis. Short answer is you can't.

I'm really liked The Queen but I wonder if it's because she wasn't bought up to be a monarch until she was about 10, maybe it made her more humble whereupon Charles and William always knew they'd be too dog and it's made them and some of them more arrogant.

pillow56 · 06/01/2023 17:23

A lot of families are dysfunctional and the RF falls into that category in spades

there is dysfunctional, then there's adult siblings physically fighting which is just another level.