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What is Harry trying to achieve?

134 replies

Butterflyfluff · 05/01/2023 13:07

On the one hand he says he wants his brother and father back but on the other hand he is selling his story to the highest bidder like some Z-list celebrity.

How does he think this will end?

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Cuppasoupmonster · 05/01/2023 16:45

Squamata · 05/01/2023 16:43

Is he though? He bangs on about slavery but still took the money, right?

Well exactly, and so did Meghan 🤷🏼‍♀️ still using their outdated colonial titles too..

VanCleefArpels · 05/01/2023 16:46

PrinceHaz · 05/01/2023 16:44

I take what he says at face value. He’s angry about the family feeding stories to the press to bury other stories. His wife has experienced threats to her life. His wife has experienced a constant barrage of racism and misogyny from the press and his family won’t do anything about it.
j would be angry in this situation too.

I don’t disagree with you - but why respond by doing exactly what he says has upset him and his wife so much it has led to mental health difficulties? The impact on his dad and brother must be devastating

MissMarpleRocks · 05/01/2023 16:48

Hintofreality · 05/01/2023 16:41

He wants his family but not the Royal Family. He’s clearly very anti the monarchy and all it stands for.

But wants the titles, the deference, the opened doors that it gives.

Id like all that too but I’m never going to get it.

He should be thinking how lucky he is to have never had a worry about food, heating, bills.

I’m not saying he shouldn’t have MH issues but please be grateful that you could access help so quickly. Most people have to wait weeks for a gp appointment & then referral. No self reflection at all.

healthadvice123 · 05/01/2023 16:53

@PrinceHaz allegedly can you actually link me to the racist stories in the press
Also another poster posted several palace statements defending them so they dd at times and Kate had loads of stories for her for years as well so its not exclusive and RF don't refute every story
And what about the bullying of staff thats been well buried for them
Also he is now selling stories and slinging mud is his brother and family immune from MH issues ?

PrincessofWellies · 05/01/2023 16:54

coolmum123 · 05/01/2023 16:16

I have a similar situation in my family with my brother. All I could think of was 'yep been there'. I feel so sad for the RF. This shit should have been dealt with in private and I'm not sure what H&M's motive is for putting it out there but it is a very destructive action. If they have an ounce of self awareness I hope thay they feel sorry that they have both destroyed relationships in both their families.

Yes me too with a family member who is adept at twisting the narrative to the extent I have cut them from my life as heaven knows what they might lie about next. It's very sad but I've found it easier by the realisation they are ill. I think that may be case with Harry. So much pain, and his poor children reading this stuff when they're older. Horrible.

healthadvice123 · 05/01/2023 16:55

@NibbledSwitch well aren't you nice

AlecTrevelyan006 · 05/01/2023 17:01

Harry has no purpose. I predict a divorce within the next 3-4 years. After that he will become even more bitter.

its all a bit tragic

Sherbetdib · 05/01/2023 17:18

Recognition, identity and to be as equally valued as his brother. Also Money. And to escape the more boring aspects of Royal life.

Sara2618 · 05/01/2023 17:26

This is all orchestrated by the establishment itself. It will become clear to people in the far future.

NorthYorkQueen · 05/01/2023 17:27

Remember Harry gave an interview before the wedding and he said his family had welcomed Meghan and become the ‘family she never had’. Her dad was really upset about it. I think if you step back, she is estranged from her father/fathers side of the family and now Harry is completely estranged from his. They are the common factor and the drama that runs alongside everything is 100% caused by them.
I always thought it so weird that Harry never ever met her father in person when they were dating and they were dating for a period of time before it became public knowledge so they could have had a low key meeting then.

They have never ever been challenged on anything they have publically stated eg been questioned by a proper journalist (and I doubt we will see anything challenged with these 2 experienced journalists on Sunday). They can just spew it all out, watch the drama unfold and continue unchallenged.

Everything is always everyone else’s fault with H&M, they take zero responsibility, it’s difficult to stomach any more of it.

VanCleefArpels · 05/01/2023 17:28

Sara2618 · 05/01/2023 17:26

This is all orchestrated by the establishment itself. It will become clear to people in the far future.

To what end??

miri1985 · 05/01/2023 17:28

He reminds me of when DS1 was a toddler, one minute it would be look at me, then stop looking at me and then why are you ignoring me (said in a less elegantly more toddlerly way)

Wonnle · 05/01/2023 17:29

PrinceHaz · 05/01/2023 16:44

I take what he says at face value. He’s angry about the family feeding stories to the press to bury other stories. His wife has experienced threats to her life. His wife has experienced a constant barrage of racism and misogyny from the press and his family won’t do anything about it.
j would be angry in this situation too.

So you think his family can somehow control the press do you

IsItaCowIsItaPlane · 05/01/2023 17:44

Hintofreality · 05/01/2023 16:41

He wants his family but not the Royal Family. He’s clearly very anti the monarchy and all it stands for.

Funny isn't it, he only ahs any status due to being a member of the Royal family, but he wants to destroy it. It's rather like cutting off the brach that you sit on!

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 05/01/2023 17:46

I think if you step back, she is estranged from her father/fathers side of the family and now Harry is completely estranged from his. They are the common factor and the drama that runs alongside everything is 100% caused by them.

Yet some will still claim they're the innocent victims.

Blip · 05/01/2023 18:05

Maybe Harry's next venture will be an expose of how Netflix and Penguin Randomhouse exploited him shamelessly and ruined his chances of a reconciliation.

I don't think Meghan will be able to stomach being a total laughing stock for very long though. Is this turn of events any less worse than JC's fantasy? Im not sure that it is.

I do worry for Harold's MH.

SirChenjins · 05/01/2023 18:14

Agree @Blip - surely no-one of note would work closely with them in case they are next to be exposed under the banner of ‘their truth’.

NibbledSwitch · 05/01/2023 18:39

healthadvice123 · 05/01/2023 16:55

@NibbledSwitch well aren't you nice

I am nice. I believe in fairness and equality.

Two good reasons to want to see the end of the monarchy!

Spectre8 · 05/01/2023 18:41

He wanted to write a book and he has 🤷‍♀️

healthadvice123 · 05/01/2023 18:43

@NibbledSwitch whilst forgetting that actual humans are in this family and that then it would need to be replaced with something else that would also not be fair and it would't suddenly make everyone else richer , your couple quid tax a year back
The cost of undoing and institution and replacing it would also be immense.
Plus its not going to happen and if anything i think this will have the reverse affect.
Charles always intended to slim down the monarchy and gives him ample time to do it his wag

healthadvice123 · 05/01/2023 18:44

@NibbledSwitch also life's bit fair , do you own your own house , have a holiday yearly ? If so why because others don't so thats not fair
A supermarket worker works as hard as a lawyer in many ways so fair would be we all get paid the same whatever job we do , but thats not realistic is it ?

healthadvice123 · 05/01/2023 18:44

** is not

Butterflyfluff · 05/01/2023 18:45

If the latest revelations about how many Afghans he killed and how he lost is virginity (not remotely comparable except in they are not things anyone needed to know) are true he has gone so far beyond the line it’s staggering

There’s no way back from that - surely

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Mingmoo · 05/01/2023 18:47

I think Harry thought he was very very lucky to get Meghan to marry him (which is sweet) but he let her think the life she was getting in return was very different from what it actually is in case she backed out, and she thought it was going to be like a Hallmark movie. She wore a 50k couture dress for one of their engagement photos - even at the time I thought it was a misstep. Everything he has done since they got engaged has been an attempt to make it up to her for 'misleading' her (I don't think he did but I can understand he would feel guilty) and he's desperate to give her the life she thought she was getting - billionaire wealth, security (literally and financial), tiny princes and princesses, power, influence, fame and the ability to get anyone on the phone. The royal family is a very weird semi-public business and I actually don't think the perks are worth the scrutiny or the illusion of wealth and power it confers, but at least Kate knew what she was getting. Meghan should have known better, but she chose to believe the fairytale.

Hbh17 · 05/01/2023 19:05

Sadly, Harry is - as he says himself - his mother's son. So whilst he has (or had) much of her charm, playfulness and empathy he also has some of her less attractive qualities. She had a difficult childhood, as did he. But he only remembers her as the lovely mummy of his childhood and, because of her premature death, we don't know how things would have played out in her middle age.

He also hasn't learnt from Charles & Diana's experiences of making her grievances public. He certainly also seems to have forgotten that William too had a tough childhood and lost his mother.
Harry met someone who he he could latch onto in his wife and - whatever her faults and failings may be - the two of them have egged each other on ever since. I hope, for Harry's sake, that the marriage lasts because otherwise Meghan will be doing the same to him in a book of her own, and he'll have no friends and family to support him.