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Piers Morgan's response to Clarkson's comments

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cakeorwine · 20/12/2022 10:44

Is not to condemn them but instead to attack Meghan and Harry

"Imagine if all those screaming with rage about Jeremy Clarkson felt the same protective anger towards those who’ve branded our Royal Family callous lying racist bullies - without producing any actual evidence for these cruel allegations?"

What is his problem - does he not see an issue with Clarkson's comments and his column?

Classic whataboutery.

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cakeorwine · 20/12/2022 16:31

AlexaM86 · 20/12/2022 13:33

I don’t agree with everything Piers Morgan says or does but, in this instance, he has said that he doesn’t think JC should’ve put that in his column? I think there is some selective editing going on here.

Has he said it directly. A straightforward message?

No

This is him not condemning what Clarkson wrote. Just not defending it.

Piers Morgan's response to Clarkson's comments
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TheFairyCaravan · 20/12/2022 16:34

headstone · 20/12/2022 16:24

TheFairyCaravan it’s not up to them to defend someone they neither like and has a vendetta against them. Clarkson is a vile person but they are not responsible for him. Awful things were said about Camilla which they ignored at the time and it worked.

Camilla spoke out warning of a global pandemic of violence against women, yet here she is completely silent when one of the men, that she dined with last week, rights an article inciting violence against her daughter-in-law. It’s not a good look imo.

headstone · 20/12/2022 16:34

Kerrylass I think not mentioning Harry and Meghan again except in exceptional circumstances is the only sensible option for the royal family Very wise not to comment on an unpleasant piece of satire.

cakeorwine · 20/12/2022 16:35

AlexaM86 · 20/12/2022 15:13

Never said it was edited, but taking one tweet in isolation and then declaring that as the person’s full view is selective? He has said, in a video he tweet prior to this tweet, that he feels JC shouldn’t have included it in his piece. Yet we have people on this thread seeming to claim he’s defending what JC said, agreeing with it or otherwise putting words he didn’t say in his mouth. It’s a little bit hypocritical in the scheme of the larger discussion.

Did he?

Because that's not on twitter.
No simple condemnation.
There is a comment in response saying that no, he would not have posted it. Which is not a condemnation.
And then there's a "whatabout"

Piers Morgan's response to Clarkson's comments
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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 20/12/2022 16:36

Georgeskitchen · 20/12/2022 11:07

I'm no fan of either of these two schoolboys pretending to be men but I have to say PM does have something of a fair point that H&M have not really produced any tangible evidence to support their claims
Hand me arse please

What was that point they made about the press printing hateful screeds about them and the palace condoning it by saying absolutely nothing in their defence? Even when that story involves inflicting physical violence on a woman, when the Queen consort is allegedly friends with Clarkson and was seen cavorting with him the very next day.

Clarkson has just proved that point for them, far more eloquently than Harry or Meghan could even have dreamed of doing.

Then people are claiming he's been oh, so clever with his not-so-literary allusions?

What a doofus.

catandcoffee · 20/12/2022 16:36

No one knows what's said and implied behind closed doors,do they ?

So in future if a women tells me her other half beats the shit out of her..... I'm going to demand evidence.

And I want evidence of all those awful MIL's that allegedly make " comments"

You know the ones that are posted on MN and you all say go no contact with that awful MIL.

Nope, never going to believe anyone again unless I see or hear the abuse 🙄

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 20/12/2022 16:39

TheFairyCaravan · 20/12/2022 16:34

Camilla spoke out warning of a global pandemic of violence against women, yet here she is completely silent when one of the men, that she dined with last week, rights an article inciting violence against her daughter-in-law. It’s not a good look imo.

Agreed. What kind of ambassador does this make her for any charity representing the interests of victims of VAWG?

She's unfit for any role of the sort. Disgusting conduct.

SinnerBoy · 20/12/2022 16:41

Choconut

MM is a social climber, she thought she'd hit the top of the ladder by marrying a prince...

What about Katherine Middleton?

Blossomtoes · 20/12/2022 16:44

Palegreenstars · 20/12/2022 10:56

does he not think that Camila partying with Clarkson last week and then not releasing a statement condemning his obvious racism is all the evidence needed?

The event was before the publication of the article and was attended by dozens of celebrities.

AlexaM86 · 20/12/2022 16:49

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/12/2022 16:18

Do you have a link?

twitter.com/PiersUncensored/status/1604942326014451713

LadyWithLapdog · 20/12/2022 16:50

Choconut - you’re just making things up. MM didn’t call KM a cold fish in the docuseries. What on Earth are you about?

Ohtheweatheroutsideistoocold · 20/12/2022 16:50

MM is a social climber, she thought she'd hit the top of the ladder by marrying a prince

that's such a UK centric view of things. they aren't quite so snobby about new money and self made people in the US

Never mind the fact that Meghan bought $2 million to the marriage and had the potential to earn a lot more from her own career. she's hardly gone from scrubbing floors to being a princess

cakeorwine · 20/12/2022 17:03

Is that a condemnation?
No
It's "I don't think he should have put it in".

As part of a video interview - followed by his upset at what he thinks they have done to the RF.

It's not difficult to condemn something. To call something out as wrong.

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AlexaM86 · 20/12/2022 17:09

cakeorwine · 20/12/2022 17:03

Is that a condemnation?
No
It's "I don't think he should have put it in".

As part of a video interview - followed by his upset at what he thinks they have done to the RF.

It's not difficult to condemn something. To call something out as wrong.

He’s said he shouldn’t have done it but you won’t accept it because he didn’t use your verbiage or media of choice to say it. Why do you so specifically want him to state “I condemn what JC said”?

Piers didn’t say it - JC did.

Blossomtoes · 20/12/2022 17:10

when the Queen consort is allegedly friends with Clarkson and was seen cavorting with him the very next day.

There was no “cavorting” and the dinner was two days before the article was printed.

I honestly have no idea why anyone would expect her to support her stepson and his wife when they’ve spent months maligning her husband and the rest of his family . If one of my stepkids did it I certainly wouldn’t support them in any way.

cakeorwine · 20/12/2022 17:16

AlexaM86 · 20/12/2022 17:09

He’s said he shouldn’t have done it but you won’t accept it because he didn’t use your verbiage or media of choice to say it. Why do you so specifically want him to state “I condemn what JC said”?

Piers didn’t say it - JC did.

Because Morgan is a prominent commentator who has repeatedly targeted Meghan Markle on an almost daily basis.

And his silence on this speaks volumes - no direct comment. Just discussing that "Oh no, I wouldn't have done it - but look ,why aren't people angry about what she's said about the RF"

He has contributed massively to the anger felt towards her.

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AlexaM86 · 20/12/2022 17:22

cakeorwine · 20/12/2022 17:16

Because Morgan is a prominent commentator who has repeatedly targeted Meghan Markle on an almost daily basis.

And his silence on this speaks volumes - no direct comment. Just discussing that "Oh no, I wouldn't have done it - but look ,why aren't people angry about what she's said about the RF"

He has contributed massively to the anger felt towards her.

But this is my problem with your post. He hasn’t been silent. He said that JC shouldn’t have done it, live on his show and then reposted it on both his show’s Twitter and his own.

You’ve taken one comment he’s made on it and classed that as his entire opinion because it fits your perception of him. That’s disingenuous.

Witchofthedales · 20/12/2022 17:26

He's a grade A twat. Wonder if he's tapped any phones lately.

Gruffalo101 · 20/12/2022 17:26

newnamethanks · 20/12/2022 11:15

Years of expensive schooling went into producing these men and their good friends. Impressive isn't it? Buy yourself a holiday home and send your sons to the local comp instead. It's unlikely to result in worse.

Throw in a Boris Johnson.for good measure...says it all about the supposed elite and apparently educated in British society.

DuchessDandelion · 20/12/2022 17:26

Both of them are bustards.

About time Clarkson got cancelled - hopefully this is it.

DuchessDandelion · 20/12/2022 17:27

Bloody autocorrect!!

cakeorwine · 20/12/2022 17:30

AlexaM86 · 20/12/2022 17:22

But this is my problem with your post. He hasn’t been silent. He said that JC shouldn’t have done it, live on his show and then reposted it on both his show’s Twitter and his own.

You’ve taken one comment he’s made on it and classed that as his entire opinion because it fits your perception of him. That’s disingenuous.

He said it as a throwaway line hidden in a video followed by a "Look at what they have done to the RF"

Not as a straightforward condemnation.

That's what he should have done. But he didn't.

He only said on Twitter in response to a comment.

He is part of the reason why there is this attitude towards MM

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ganachee · 20/12/2022 17:31

Our tabloids are disgusting, Clarkson’s words were unacceptable. Morgan comes across as obsessed and our society would be much better if we didn’t have such a gutter press. It is absolutely right the tabloids brand of hate and toxicity and utterances like Clarkson’s are condemned.

However, I also have little time with the notion H and M are paragons of virtue and truth. They have said too much that doesn’t bear scrutiny and H has been bad mouthing his brother (who he was once close to and whose wife he used to call like the sister he never had) and father when he knows they have little right of reply due to how the institution works. We have only H and M’s words for it that the other family members’ press teams passed on bad stories.

Also H and M by not naming the family member who allegedly said something about any future’s children’s skin colour opened up the whole family to be cast as racist. If I was a member of the family, I would be none too happy to have such a shadow cast on me. The institution has a history of colonialism and racism and the Queen Mother and Prince Philip both were reported to have said racist comments. This doesn’t mean all the present family are and without evidence I will not accuse them of it.

onlylarkin · 20/12/2022 17:34

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/12/2022 11:14

Lady Susan Hussey was racist to a black guest at the Palace. She was a Lady-in-waiting assigned to help MM acclimatise to royal life. So there was/is racism in the Royal household.

This. They don't need to produce proof. The proof keeps producing itself.

The palace is looking very bad right now.

Livingtothefull · 20/12/2022 17:36

'I honestly have no idea why anyone would expect her to support her stepson and his wife when they’ve spent months maligning her husband and the rest of his family . If one of my stepkids did it I certainly wouldn’t support them in any way.'

Well yes I would expect her to support a stepchild, where violent and public misogynistic threats had been made against them. Frankly I would expect her to support anyone in these circumstances, given her position and that she purportedly opposes violence against women and girls.

'MM is a social climber, she thought she'd hit the top of the ladder by marrying a prince'.

Anyone who marries into the RF is liable to be accused of this regardless of whether it's true. How come you can see into her head and know she is a social climber? And if she were, she is maybe not a very good one as she would surely have done better to stay within the fold like Camilla and Kate.

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