King Charles to pay for Duke of York’s private security

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Monarch expected to foot £3m bill for guards.

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2022.12.19-193449/www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/12/19/king-charles-pay-duke-yorks-private-security-refusing-do-prince/#selection-1193.1-1193.56" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">King Charles to pay for Duke of York’s private security

Fascinating. What do we think?

Yeah the whole paying £12 million to a stranger he'd never met didn't cast a shadow over the royal family at all. That interview with Maitlis wasn't a disaster. It didn't even get so bad that military sources were briefing to broadsheets about his titles (took the RF a year and some change to get on with it!)

It's all H&M bad, poor Andrew good 😪

Up until recently Andrew was the son of the monarch and entitled to protection dependent on the risk factors obviously the accusations and allegations he faced have increased his risk same as Harry's netflix program will have increased his

Charles paid for Harry too he chose to leave Andrew chose to stay

A person is not guilty of a crime by association.

Im not debating this with you since your logic is so all over the place I am having difficulty understanding what you are even saying.

You said he is a convicted sex offender. I said I'm talking about Andrew. You said you are too. I'm struggling to follow.

You do realise that Sarah Ferguson was also friends with JE? And he attended Princess Beatrice's birthday party socialising with most of the Royals and numerous other high profile Brits. And how about Bill Clinton? What about Ralph Fiennes? Stephen Hawking - he went to Epstein parties?

How did Charles pay for Harry? Charles is (allegedly) just now privately covering Andrew's security. They were never dipping into personal funds.

Famous, wealthy men who repeatedly attend the 'parties' of sex traffickers are not ranked highly in my estimation, no matter who they are. There have been many first hand accounts stating that a visitor to Epstein's mansion would have to be blind not to realise what was going on, so "I didn't know, honest guv!" wouldn't wash with me.

P. Andrew could just turn himself in to American lawyers investigating Maxwell & Epstein child sex trafficking. He'd have a little private cell with its own security.

I think that a 3 million pound boost in schools, welfare system or NHS would be a better use of money.
The amount we give to the royal family is outrages. Schools are struggling. The NHS is struggling. Those on low incomes are struggling. The country is falling apart. Yet there aren't protests and outrage we're giving some entitled and privileged a holes so much money. I'm sure they already have enough money to fund several generations.

celebitchy is the place to go for uncensored, no holds barred gossip that makes me feel the RF are fighting a losing battle to hold the line. H&M were hinting at deeper stuff.

And you know what... on other threads when Andrew comes up to compare treatment of him versus Harry, I get told 'everyone agrees he's a sleaze so what's the point of bringing him up'.

I say.. well.. there are plenty of Andrew apologists about.

And here they are on this thread.

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The bottom line is - he stayed friends with a convicted sex trafficker after conviction and only broke it off when the heat was on to do so. He'd been advised many a time to drop the friendship, even the Queen told him to... but no, he thought he could walk on water and he did what he wanted. Until the pressure was too much. Then of course he did the 'honourable' thing and flew out there to break off the friendship (whilst being guest of honour at a posh dinner party). The breaking up took four whole days. Laughable.

Plus in interview he said he didn't regret the friendship.

That's really all anyone needs to know.

And Epstien was found guilty of procuring a 14 year old child for prostitution and put on the sex offenders register.

He also went to prison (did a plea bargain so several other charges were dropped and served a year). This was in 2008. Wiki gives sources for those who wish to check.

It was widely known, there is no way Andrew didn't know.

It's not the association alone. It's the association and obvious knowledge of past crimes that fit perfectly with current activities to suggest those crimes are ongoing and the participation in some of those activites whilst claiming you never knew about the rest.

Exactly but some people seem unable to see this.

How surprising that there are posters who will never ever be willing to acknowledge that Harry might have a point. Harry was suing over not having palace security in the UK. He even agreed to pay for it. But no, no. He chose to leave the RF so fuck him. But not Andrew.

You state ot very confidently so how do you know he paid £12m?

Who has confirmed he paid £12million ? Has anyone ever said that the EM interview was anything other than a disaster ? Is anyone saying he is a great man ?? No.
People are simply pointing out that Andrew hasn’t been convicted of anything . He hasn’t made a reality show about his awful life . He hasn’t written a book and arranged to talk to reporters . He hasn’t complained because someone didn’t hug him .
Harry and his family were given official protection while over for the funeral .
Do they seriously think they should have tax payers footing his security bill while he spouts his poor me bile ?

Does it matter? I have heard £5M, £7M and £12M. Any which way, he paid her off (and it waqsn't £1,500!) and any which way he continued being firm friends with a sex trafficker.

People are simply pointing out that Andrew hasn’t been convicted of anything . He hasn’t made a reality show about his awful life . He hasn’t written a book and arranged to talk to reporters . He hasn’t complained because someone didn’t hug him

Yeah.... all so much worse than being very friendly with a convicted sex trafficker, sleeping with a trafficked girl, and being besties with a woman (and taking her to numerous royal residences repeatedly) who is now in prison for procuring underage girls, some as young as 13.
So much better than writing a book yeah

I laugh at people like this until I remember that this is the exact reason why Andrew could very well come back into public life.

Brits have been groomed to hate Harry and Meghan, there's no manufactured outrage machine for Andrew.

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@Roussette i can’t decide if you are being deliberately obtuse or genuinely don’t understand what I , and others , are saying .

OK, seeing as you're finding it difficult to understand.

I'll break it down.

What was the purpose of you listing all the dodgy friends you have?
Do you have any convicted sex offenders in your friendship group? If not, why not?

By your logic, If a person is not guilty of a crime by association, then presumably you'll have no problem having a sex offender as a friend. That's why I asked the question in the first place.

I've heard £3m. But the amount does matter in so far as people portray that the higher the amount, the more likely he was guilty and the worse the supposed activity must have been. If the amount isn't important, why not use the £3m figure his lawyers have claimed?

Frankly, it’s the media shit stirring. As it says
King Charles to likely pay for Prince Andrew's private security – after refusing to do so for Harry. Monarch expected to foot £3m bill for guards, in a move likely to irritate the Duke and Duchess of Sussex

This means the RF hasn’t said anything about being willing to pay for Prince Andrew. The media are just saying in their opinion it is ‘likely’ and ‘expected’.

Someone has an agenda.

Goodness so much pearl clutching

You know those threads where people agree that you can't assume or expect people to do something just because of their relationship like grandparents not requiring to babysit grandkids? I think the same logic applies - Charles can choose to finance his brother and not his son if he so chooses. Not our business if his own money.

Further perplexed how some peoples minds work:

1. Inability to hold two separate concepts at one time - 1 for Andrew and 1 for Harry but instead they are inextricably linked

1. Belief that actions of one family member is a definitive statement on the whole family. The whole family is racist, lazy, sleazy etc

My uncle has been inside -does that make all my family criminals just by association?

1. Do away with monarchy because an elected figure head would be so much better / really? Because they wont also be more privileged? Not have any embarrassing relatives or scandals?

Urgh