Jeremy Clarkson

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Is a piece of shit. I refuse to link to his article in which he explicitly says he hates her and can't wait for the day he can physically assault her.

Can the Kate sycophants tell me again how this all happened to her and is totally normal and acceptable?

They need to fund an enormous amount of private security because Meghan is a target of serious and credible threats. Since she’s a target due to her time as a royal, it’s quite fitting they make that money off the back of being royalty.

I guess we'll see.

You're wrong on W&K's wedding btw

www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/1653995/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-wedding-princess-diana-viewing-figures-popularity

Meghan Markle, 41, and Prince Harry, 37, got married over four years ago. Not only is it the most watched royal wedding of all time, but it was also actually the third most watched event in history

Even though Charles and Diana's wedding was back in the 1980s, it is still one of the most watched live streamed events the world has seen with a total of 750 million viewers tuning in to watch the fairy tail wedding.

However, 37 years later, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's wedding was watched by a whopping 1.9 billion people, making it the third most watched event in history.

This meant that it was watched by 25 percent of the global population.

And this is from the Express, who are usually vile to H&M

@GreenLunchBox it obviously depends where you get your information! I read that more than 2 billion people watched W and K

Is she still a target ? A real target ? Did they not move to the US where she would be safer ?

@tatalan - That is what H and M said in the documentary. Don’t know what others were watching

Their lives look a lot more appealing than the RF in the UK

They’re using RF credentials to create their own gold fish bowl anyway.

Of course you did

Who cares about how many people watched what? This seems like a popularity contest where only one side cares. What's the prize?

I didn't watch H&M because I didn't feel like getting up to watch it. I watched W&K because a friend hosted a breakfast for us and there hadn't been one in a long time. It had nothing to do with how I felt about anyone.

I don’t get it either. Obviously the RF and W&K draw crowds irl and watching.

Arguably H&M have a draw due to RF connection. Without that and they wouldn’t.

I think it looks really awful. I would never live in California and especially wouldn't want to live in a neighborhood like they do nor in a McMansion.

I am not comparing that with UK, or their prior life, but I find it a very odd choice when drawing completely from scratch and designing your own life.

Ooh, I love California though I wouldn’t choose Montecito or a McMansion either. But perhaps the point was to design a life near Meghan’s mother? Harry has one dead parent and one estranged; Meghan has one estranged parent, and Doria, who I thought lived in California anyway – she’s their only family support and while they have money to pay for nannies, cleaners, drivers, therapists, there’s something to be said for personal support.

Plus also they initially went to Canada and got outed there by the Fail; they fled to California because Tyler Perry offered them his house. It may not have been the original plan.

I just don't see what difference it makes who. Obviously MM's prior career depended upon popularity and being seen and she had to fight like ever other actor in order to get noticed and get jobs. I wonder if it colors all of these comments about who is more popular.

Well, the media constantly pit Kate Vs Meghan as a popularity contest so it makes sense it bleeds into wider discourse. Plus there’s the argument put forward in the documentary that the media tide turned against Meghan after her popularity soared after the Africa trip – the royal machine couldn’t have the spare and his wife outshine the future heir: it’d be Diana Vs Charles all over again! And we all saw how Philip engineered that ending that ended.

Apologies for my typos.

Well, the media constantly pit Kate Vs Meghan as a popularity contest so it makes sense it bleeds into wider discourse.

People don’t have to emulate it though. On one hand criticising the media for their approach and yet not learning to avoid doing the same.

The rest of your post does the same thing.

Yes, they do. I just doubt Kate really cares. There's not prize to be won or lost.

I don't believe in the "royal machine" conspiracies. I heard that about Diana, too. "Oh, they are mad she is popular". I just never believed it, and I always thought she was fantastic. But I was also that she was a very complex person and could be childish, petty and ridiculous. I was embarrassed for her that she talked about her private life so publicly. It didn't stop me liking her tremendously, or feeling empathy for her.

I think that is the real difference here, too. No one who has similar positive feelings about Meghan seems every willing to admit when her behavior is less than stellar. No one wants to admit that people can form less than postive opinions of her based on her own interviews and press releases.

I guess if you really believe PP engineered Diana's death we probably can't have much of a conversation, though.

Oh, for clarity: of course I don’t believe that! I thought the strikethrough made that obvious. And posting with exclamation marks. But tone is everything on the internet innit. It was Charles not Philip.

1.9 billion The only publication reporting that is the Daily Express.....

CNBC report 29 million Americans watched their wedding, 18 million people in the UK. So unless most of the population of China tuned in, I think 1.9 billion is pushing it
It appears Harry and Meghan's wedding was most viewed because of YouTube hits - about 35 million.

The crazy and deluded recognise no borders.

I read completely different numbers online. But still don't care.

@AliceOlive what do you consider to be ‘royal machine conspiracies’?

I don’t think it’s remotely controversial to say that the Royal Family dedicate a great deal of time and attention to ensuring positive media coverage (after all, their ongoing existence is dependent on the goodwill of the general public) , and that the tabloids are very obliging.

Yes, of course they manage their own PR. And I believe that people on staff leak stories when they feel like it, particularly if they do not like someone.
But I don't believe there was any organized effort or policy to leak negative stories about H&M.

Obviously from the twitter unveiling yesterday, the media dredges up things, creates their own news, lies and spins to get clicks. I don't believe and have seen no evidence* that the RF or the people working for them are involved in it.

*There is evidence and admission only of H&M doing this: JK's testimony that MM and HM were involved in the Finding Freedom book and feeding info to Omid Scobie. MM's friends leaking her letter to her father.

don't think anyone is arsed, an awful waste of money.