Can Charles remove Harry's 'prince' title

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I've noticed that the Removal of Titles Bill is going through Parliament and people have been talking a lot about Harry and Meghan losing their titles. Does this just refer to the Duke and Duchess titles, or does this also include stripping Harry of being a prince?

According to The Times, Bob Seely (MP for Isle of Wight, Tory) intends to bring forward a Titles Deprivation 1917 Act Amendment Bill

The Removal of Titles Bill (private members bill, Rachel Maskell, MP for York Central, Labour) has failed, because it did not progress before the end of the parliamentary session in which it was introduced

I hope this Tory Seely bloke persists with this... it will be hilarious! Especially waiting for when the elephants in the room are mentioned... Andrew/Sarah

And from then on the public clamouring for any Royal that annoys them being stripped of their Title, they've done it once, they can do it again...see below!

"My Titles Deprivation 1917 Act Amendment Bill would allow a vote in parliament to advise the ancient advisory privy council to strip a member of the Royal Family of their titles"

It was done in 1917, for those members of the family who had spent 3 years of WW1 fighting for Germany against the UK. That was a fairly extreme circumstance - after all, if you are fighting against the country that awarded the titles, it is reasonable to say you have forfeited them.

Plus, in those days titles mattered a great deal more.

As I have said, some people born loooong after the monarchy were abolished in e.g. Germany/France/Italy etc are still calling themselves Prince/ss etc 😂

i imagine KC will have to be careful. if he was to remove PH titles he would have to the same to PA, what he has done is far worse.
its like how can the rf sue over the book, they would have to prove surely that either the conversation didn't happen, or if it did explain it and name names.

Given Edward, Duke of Windsor wasn't stripped of his title and he fraternised with Adolf Hitler, I think this is a damp squib. Quite amusing all the same.

I suspect that in future life-time Dukedoms will be the norm. Possibly towards the end of the life as a 'working royal' instead of on marriage.

Just imagine the furore if the Sussexes had been the first life-time Dukedom instead of the Wessexs/Edinburghs!

His behaviour is neither threatening the life of KC or the Sovereignty.

Re line of succession, would you rather have Harry or Andrew?

I reckon they'll just stop the Cambridge's travelling en masse soon. It would have to be a massive tragedy to kill William and all three kids.

It just goes to show how much the Palace spin team covered up Harry’s abuses.
Do you remember he killed a polo pony called Drizzle, who died of a heart attack when he was riding her too hard.
Apparently he was ‘so upset’, according to newspaper reports. I bet he was. But not enough to stop him going on to abuse more horses.
The RF’s obsession with hunting and shooting is horrible but you’d think Harry being so woke he might have eschewed some of their more cruel pastimes but no.

when was this?
I have never understood the RF love of shooting birds. but don't know much about the polo side of things.

I think lifetime dukedoms will become more usual for them, especially for younger sons. They’ll want to cut down on the number becoming non royal dukedoms as Kent and Gloucester will be lost to the RF with the death of the current Dukes.

I think they’ll still happen on marriage so that we don’t have wives being known as Princess Louis, like Princess Michael of Kent.

They won’t want to solve the title problem and then create a sexism storm as a by product.

I think they’ll still happen on marriage so that we don’t have wives being known as Princess Louis, like Princess Michael of Kent.

There is an easier way to solve that problem. They can follow the practice of continental royal families and let women who marry in have the title of Princess Firstname. The King can make that change.

They could. I just don't see it.

The only time they've really done that was with Princess Marina, when the Queen allowed her to use that so she didn't have to be Dowager Duchess, but obviously that one was slightly different as she'd been Princess Marina before becoming DOK. Then allowing Princess Alice to do the same was, imo, simply affording her Aunt the same respect as Marina.

I don't think the British royals are ever going to be as modern as the continentals that allow the Princess Firstnames.

I think any changes William may make will entirely depend on what he wants for his grandchildren.

Clearly, by not taking any chances to make any changes, Charles wanted all of his grandchildren to be HRH Prince/Princess. William may be the same.

When the primogeniture change was made and the LP's issued for the future Cambridge children there was an ideal opportunity to change things going forward. There were no actual children at that point so less difficult than removing titles from a prince or princess that everyone knows.

There is another precedent in addition to Princess Marina and Princess Alice. It's not exactly parallel, but when the late Queen married Philip, who was technically a commoner at the time, he was made HRH Duke of Edinburgh, but her father did not make him a Prince. The Queen rectified that in 1957.

I think it is possible that a change might be made in the style of women who marry in to avoid giving all and sundry a dukedom. And the King does not have to make them princesses of the UK to do it (as was the case with Philip being made a prince). He only has to issue a statement. If male preference primogeniture can be changed, this practice of women essentially losing their own first name when they marry is logical.

This.

Innocent until proved guilty mean anything to you?

This is not a court of law. And Andrew will never face one of those. The Royals are immune from the law in reality.

Wasn't Princess Alice also a princess in her own right, as a grand-daughter of Queen Victoria?

I sense an internet rabbit hole to fall down 😂

Aha! There were two Princess Alices!

One became Princess Alice, Duchess of Goucester, not born royal, but allowed to call herself by the title I've given once she was a dowager duchess. Apparently once a titled widow's son marries and there's a new holder of her title, she chooses whether to be known a the Dowager Title, or First Name, Title...

who knew?

The other Princess Alice was a grand daughter of QV, married a Battenburg, and when they renounced their titles in 1917 reverted to being Princess Alice due to being a grand-duaghter, while her husband stopped being a Prince (of Battenburg)

I don't think the British royals are ever going to be as modern as the continentals that allow the Princess Firstnames.

The question is most likely to arise next when William is king. And if memory serves, there were press articles at the time of his marriage reporting that he wanted to continue to be Prince William, rather than a duke, and for his wife to be Princess Catherine, so perhaps he will be inclined to change it.

If Prince Andrew lost his Dukedom would that impact his daughters? They're Princesses by virtue of being the children of a Royal Duke - if he was no longer a Duke would they still be Princesses?
If I recall correctly, Prince Edward's children weren't Prince / Princess because although Royal, he wasn't a Duke.

No, Edward's children were entitled to call themsleves HRH Prince/ss from birth, as the grandchildren of the monarch through a son.

Their parents chose not to use them, and Louise seems to have chosen not to use it since turning 18

No, they are princesses by virtue of being male line grandchildren of the monarch.

Theoretically, Edward's children are entitled to be HRH Prince and Princess, but their parents chose for them to be titled as the son and daughter of an Earl.