Reaction to the Harry & Meghan 'doc' abroad - and how it undermines their claims about the British media and public

[susan12345678]

Harry and Meghan continually insist that the British media is responsible for the negative way they are perceived by the UK public. Out of curiosity, I had a very quick look at coverage of their 'documentary' in 3 other countries (France, Germany and Australia). Interesting to note that almost all of the comments on the articles I read were very negative and that people were saying exactly the same sorts of things that people in the UK are saying, namely, that they are monetizing their links to the RF at the expense of Harry's family, that they disrespected HMQ, that they shouldn't be using titles (or that these should be removed), that they are self-obsessed and narcissistic in the way they come across, etc etc.

Germany:

www.spiegel.de/panorama/harry-und-meghan-in-einer-netflix-doku-hier-hat-wohl-noch-jemand-ein-huehnchen-zu-rupfen-a-58d248ff-3702-4ebd-aebf-26797ad1a60b#kommentare

Example of one of the most popular comments:

"You don't have to be a fan of the royals, but the way Meghan makes fun of her first meeting with the Queen is deeply revealing. If the "medieval theater" is so repugnant to them, they could have opted for a private life before the wedding. But then the royal lifestyle and public attention would be gone."

www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/menschen/harry-und-meghan-das-sind-die-reaktionen-auf-die-netflix-doku-18520511.html

A popular comment:

"Harry has actually done his brother William a huge favor in making this Netflix series. Finally, the whole world knows what the Sussexes are really like. At last we can see exactly what William and Kate have had to put up with."

France:

madame.lefigaro.fr/celebrites/actu-people/harry-meghan-le-premier-episode-mievre-et-bien-lisse-du-documentaire-netflix-20221208

Comments aren't up/downrated but all comments published were negative, example:

"They are immature, ungrateful and selfish... neither of them shine with intelligence.... Apparently mediocrity sells now."

Australia:

www.smh.com.au/world/europe/prince-harry-takes-swipe-at-william-charles-in-netflix-documentary-20221208-p5c4xp.html

Popular comment:

"Harry says he no longer wants to be a Royal but continues to profit off his Royal life and connections. He complains about the paparazzi and his loss of privacy yet he uses the media to get money via a tell all doco and book trading away his, and other royals’, privacy for cash.
If he doesn’t want to be a Royal, then more power to him. But stop making your living off complaining about being a Royal. Go get a job as a builders labourer or rejoin the army and serve your country again. I think most people are sick of the hypocrisy going on here. Be a Royal and live the hard life that that must be or be a nobody and shut up about it."

Harry, Meghan and their fans really need to accept that the negativity they attract is a consequence of their behavior - not the media, and certainly not racism.

Beg pardon? , that's the first post I've made to her! , you are aware other posters have eyes too!

Excuse me... jeff I didn't start with the personal attacks.
Read the thread back and you will see.
Onlinuar at 20. 14 started being personal, not me.
Am I supposed to just lie back and accept anything said about me?
Is that what you're saying?
I am not answering any of this anymore because it's a pile on with the idea of getting a poster banned.

Byeeeee... I'll be back when there's more rational posters posting.

I'm used to it, a pile on. Thank you.

That thank you was to @BradfordGirl
Sorry, mixed up my post.

rousette you forgot to scroll up. You forgot to reference how it was you that started calling other posters ‘unpleasant and nasty’. You also gave a false impression that there are many threads against Meghan using hate speech. I merely contradicted this false assertion. And pointed out mumsnet do police threads and delete comments. You’re the one that stated calling me silly and advised me to leave this thread for other threads (aka as hounding off). So you see my dear, I didn’t make a personal comment about you and I didn’t advise you to leave the thread - because unlike you I can handle a different opinion x

There must be a stack of "How we parent correctly' books to be written. I remember Paula Yates writing something similar. Which made me laugh a lot.

I guess the dramatic exit was just for effect 😂

Indeed! , funny how every time I post no matter how infrequently it's always my name brought up! 🤣

In 2016 the palace released two short statements, according to the above. Post.. Neither addressed racist articles written about Meghan, that I can see.

The RF’s attempts of two short statements in ‘support’ of Meghan did sweet fa to stop the vitriolic tide of abuse aimed at her.

Perhaps the Royal Family should have tried harder.

In 2020 H&M left. The 4years of nasty bullshit Meghan faced would be more than enough for anyone. Or are women still supposed to suffer any slander, slurs or indignities, or threats of harm and just suck it up?

Or is okay for some women to leave abusive situations, but not others?

Using the example of the Royal Family not defending other female members of the Royal Family previously, does not present the Royal Family in a particularly good light.

All incorrect. I called you 'daft' (hardly a massive insult, you ought to see what I get called!) and I disputed your assertion that there aren't many threads knocking them, or using hate speech.

Do not twist words. I did not tell you to go elsewhere. I am not hounding you off FFS. I said there was a thread going at the moment with them being called all sorts of names, particularly Harry. And I said it was a corker. This was to illustrate my point. And I offered links. You stay here if you want, I am not saying you should go anywhere!

And yes you accused me of stuff when you jumped in out the blue with your post at 20.14.

If 'silly' is the worst I've called someone, I think I'm doing OK. There you go... no dramatic exit. My answer for you.

Please don't call me 'my dear'. It's terribly patronising.

Now, I really am going for a bath 🛀

"What's it to you anyway?" - well I was interested in the thread and subject, that's what. As you said, you can have an opinion as that's the nature of a forum. It goes both ways.

And btw, There are hundreds of threads and post just dripping with venom and hate - I presume this is about M & H but it is simply not true. It has been said over and over again but once more, being critical and calling out bullshit lies is not same as venom and hate.

Even your rebuttal contradicts itself. Thanks for reminding me you called me daft too. Calling me daft and silly is being personal, surely even you know that. Please also refrain from minimising the personal digs you’ve made towards me, and please don’t try to gas light me to be ok with it either.

Any poster can scroll up and see that it was you that started calling posters nasty and unpleasant and that it was you spreading misinformation about other threads. You flounced off ages ago, yet have continued to post. More contradiction.

Another poster mentioned the recent survey for most annoying celebrity, which apparently Meghan ‘won’? Adds weight to the point the op was making, that they aren’t well liked globally. Meghan and Harry seem to be ‘popular’ for the wrong reasons 😬 maybe they remind people of their own dysfunctional toxic relatives and perhaps that’s why they are seen as annoying 🤷‍♀️

Rousette if you're old enough to remember the John Stonehouse scandal, it's being entertainingly reprised on just now. It will make everyone feel better to put the telly on.

On bloody ITV. Auto correct.

@Onlinuar Probably true for the kind of people who complete such nonsense surveys.

@Roussette I am shocked MN allow such a pile on. It is very obvious, as are the twisting of what you say and false accusations.

ah but you’re not shocked when your mate calls people daft and silly? Is that because you expect that of them? Interesting

Yes let’s make blanket generalisations about the
415,900 individuals who took part in the survey 😂 can we please also make blanket generalisations about the type of people that spread misinformation and refer to other posters as ‘nasty, unpleasant, silly, daft, haterz, jealous’ under the guise of sticking up for multi millionaire celebrities who they don’t personally know and aren’t affiliated with in any real way 😂

Good evening. We're just dropping in as we've had quite a few reports about posts on this thread. We don't want to have to take the whole thread down so we'd really appreciate it getting back on track now. Thank you for your cooperation. MNHQ

Don’t want this derailed for the OP so will delete and not respond to you again 👍🏼

And to get the thread back on track, an interesting take on America’s reaction to the couple:

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/12/18/britain-arrogance-us-ambition-how-america-reacted-harry-meghan/

It's behind a paywall. What does it say?

The intention of this thread was to explore the way in which Harry and Meghan's behavior is being discussed internationally. I travel a lot and read a lot of international news sites, including in other languages. I've noticed for some time that the media and public in other countries took a similarly dim view of H&M as most in the UK do.

H&M's line is that the British media was racist towards Meghan and printed a lot of unfair lies about her, which made the public hate her. The reality is that in most cases people formed their own opinions based on H&Ms bad behavior - and the fact that the responses are so similar abroad, away from the evil influence of the British press - tends to bear this out.

Here's another example from Germany today:

www.spiegel.de/panorama/leute/prinz-harry-in-einem-interview-ich-haette-gerne-meinen-vater-zurueck-a-e6989554-40c4-4353-975e-2b096396e3ef#kommentare

I have a subscription to this one - so I can see that there are more than 300 comments on this article, with the most uprated describing Harry as a 'self-obsessed toddler with unhealthy desire for attention and publicity.'

Here's one from France

www.lepoint.fr/culture/la-popularite-d-harry-et-meghan-s-effondre-apres-le-documentaire-de-netflix-31-12-2022-2503344_3.php#Commentaires

No doubt these are uncomfortable truths for Meghan and Harry's supporters - hence the tiresome derailing.

And here's the Sydney Morning Herald

www.smh.com.au/world/europe/harry-launches-fresh-attacks-on-charles-william-and-palace-under-queen-20230103-p5c9z8.html

Almost 400 comments. Best-rated comment:

"If he was my son or brother I wouldn't have anything to do with him either. Who takes family matters public and then goes and profits from it . Not once but over and over again . What sort of person does that . Maybe there's a book deal in that"