Reaction to the Harry & Meghan 'doc' abroad - and how it undermines their claims about the British media and public

[susan12345678]

Harry and Meghan continually insist that the British media is responsible for the negative way they are perceived by the UK public. Out of curiosity, I had a very quick look at coverage of their 'documentary' in 3 other countries (France, Germany and Australia). Interesting to note that almost all of the comments on the articles I read were very negative and that people were saying exactly the same sorts of things that people in the UK are saying, namely, that they are monetizing their links to the RF at the expense of Harry's family, that they disrespected HMQ, that they shouldn't be using titles (or that these should be removed), that they are self-obsessed and narcissistic in the way they come across, etc etc.

Germany:

www.spiegel.de/panorama/harry-und-meghan-in-einer-netflix-doku-hier-hat-wohl-noch-jemand-ein-huehnchen-zu-rupfen-a-58d248ff-3702-4ebd-aebf-26797ad1a60b#kommentare

Example of one of the most popular comments:

"You don't have to be a fan of the royals, but the way Meghan makes fun of her first meeting with the Queen is deeply revealing. If the "medieval theater" is so repugnant to them, they could have opted for a private life before the wedding. But then the royal lifestyle and public attention would be gone."

www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/menschen/harry-und-meghan-das-sind-die-reaktionen-auf-die-netflix-doku-18520511.html

A popular comment:

"Harry has actually done his brother William a huge favor in making this Netflix series. Finally, the whole world knows what the Sussexes are really like. At last we can see exactly what William and Kate have had to put up with."

France:

madame.lefigaro.fr/celebrites/actu-people/harry-meghan-le-premier-episode-mievre-et-bien-lisse-du-documentaire-netflix-20221208

Comments aren't up/downrated but all comments published were negative, example:

"They are immature, ungrateful and selfish... neither of them shine with intelligence.... Apparently mediocrity sells now."

Australia:

www.smh.com.au/world/europe/prince-harry-takes-swipe-at-william-charles-in-netflix-documentary-20221208-p5c4xp.html

Popular comment:

"Harry says he no longer wants to be a Royal but continues to profit off his Royal life and connections. He complains about the paparazzi and his loss of privacy yet he uses the media to get money via a tell all doco and book trading away his, and other royals’, privacy for cash.
If he doesn’t want to be a Royal, then more power to him. But stop making your living off complaining about being a Royal. Go get a job as a builders labourer or rejoin the army and serve your country again. I think most people are sick of the hypocrisy going on here. Be a Royal and live the hard life that that must be or be a nobody and shut up about it."

Harry, Meghan and their fans really need to accept that the negativity they attract is a consequence of their behavior - not the media, and certainly not racism.

I haven’t seen an announcement. I have seen speculation.

I've seen it said in Dutch comments, more than once, that if Harry was the eldest son, he'd be completely fine with the RF. Those sorts of comments were not appearing much before the Netflix series.

I agree with this. He comes across as very bitter that he isn't in line to be king.

Your mistake is to think that people elsewhere are getting their knickers in a twist over all of this.

Nobody in the US cares at all, and nobody is going to waste time reading newspaper articles about their series.

As for 'comments on the articles'

Have you ever heard of bots?

Yup! And all these people making threads about them constantly and going as far as to reading the articles in every language. New levels of obsession

Obsession is the word, indeed.

Harry is going to do another big interview with Anderson Cooper and Megan is working on a memoir.

Dear god.

How does your hate rate for them compared to say child abusers, murderers, those vile parents who batter their kids etc.
I think you need to step back from ever looking at anything anywhere about them if you are in such a headspace to hate a couple so much, who you really don't know about and you don't know the full story apart from being fed by the media.
You will feel better for stepping away from reading and commenting about them.

I think that Netflix has taken advantage of their stupidity. They are going in hard for all the money they can make in a short space of time because they know in 12 months time most of the global public will be sick of them complaining about the same things and they won't be marketable anymore.
The crazy thing is if someone is prepared to slag their family off at a global level - how can you be sure they won't in the future be prepared to tell the private stories of their friends to the press for money? I can imagine the Hollywood elite who value their privacy will be giving them a wide berth.

This with bells on it !

So the commenter has an issue with interracial marriage in European families? I'd take the rest of their assessment with a pinch of salt.

Your mistake is to think that people elsewhere are getting their knickers in a twist over all of this

Actually, people in the US - and elsewhere - are taking the same dim view of them as most of us in the UK. I spent some time in Sweden over Christmas and friends told me they'd watched some of the Netflix program and thought H& M were ridiculous. The general consensus is that they should stop moaning & go away.

www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/12/26/is-2022-the-year-we-all-finally-got-over-narcissists-00075270

variety.com/vip/harry-and-meghan-lack-a-second-act-1235464729/

As for 'comments on the articles' Hmm Have you ever heard of bots?

Talk about clutching at straws 😂 Bots certainly aren't signing up for paid subscriptions to the Frankfurter Allgemeine and New York Times in their droves so they can comment on Meghan and Harry articles. 🙄

In fact, all of the paid PR around this pair emanates from Harry and Meghan themselves and takes place on fora and social media where it's free to post. Places like Mumsnet. People are paid pennies per post to promote their various interests (eg praising H&M as trailblazers or innovators, denigrating William and Kate, querying the future of the RF etc etc).

Oh god you're not on about people being paid on here again are you? And insinuating it's regular posters who have been here years?

What a reach. checks bank account for loadsa dosh

Desperation for a different opinion from you.

If Harry was the eldest son he'd have been protected like William has been and it would have been his younger brother thrown to the wolves to cover up his misbehaviour. The media already has the narrative that Charlotte and Louis are 'naughty' when they're completely normal children and I've seen posters on here writing about their strong dislike of her apparent bossiness for example, a 7 year old! Lucky George - 2 scapegoats. I'm glad Meghan and Harry aren't putting their children through that.

One thing that has surprised me is that Netflix has not - so far- turned off the comments under the trailers for the H and M shows most of which are hugely sarcastic ,although very amusing.
I have only read speculation about M’s autobiography but it wouldn’t surprise me if she does write one however what is there left to say ?
Can I ask H and M supporters if they genuinely think that these reality shows/ interviews/ books are a good idea ? Have they confirmed your view about how badly they were ( allegedly) treated or do you wish they would keep quiet and concentrate on being a happy family and pursuing charitable work .
Genuinely interested.

Quite the opposite. Most threads on this forum are bizarre hate fests against Meghan Markle and full of the same posters spitting their bile against her in what looks like attempts to outdo everyone else. So if anyone is paying, it's certainly not them.

No but they are allowing them to be filmed including Archie in his bath .
One of the few things I admired M for was saying that she wouldn’t serve up her child on a silver platter . Turns out she was waiting for a gold one.

its funny that the op keeps making unfounded accusations the pro posters are paid to post. yet they keep starting threads.......double bluff??

I think your wrong to describe that poster as a liar.

She clearly stated: "The vast majority of The NY Times comments that I just read are in support of H&M. They are also quite scathing of the British popular press"

This is her truth.

That it bears no resemblance to the actual numbers of types of posts doesn't mean it's not true for her (because she skims and only actually reads the posts that confirm her truth)

I haven't seen the Netflix show nor do I have any interest in it, but the baby in his bath sounds like it's just showing normal everyday family life. But like I said I haven't seen it so can only say I don't know.

I appear to be in the minority with this but I do think that if you are going to protect your children’s privacy (absolutely right) then you should be selective in what you show . Playing in the garden - fine . In the bath - no.

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Ranker has polled Meghan Markle the most annoying person in the world and Prince Harry second most annoying. Elon musk is up there too, and Oprah Winfrey.

The New York Times printed one supportive article, I think around the Ripple of hope award, but has also printed negative ones, as have many others.

I've seen plenty of comments from Americans that can't stand the pair .

As for 'bots'. On the Netflix reality show (aka documentary) they had a man who has a digital company which allegedly uncovered multiple false accounts on Twitter posting negative comments about the couple. They 'uncovered' 55 accounts, but when Twitter itself investigated it turned out there were only 4 actual fake accounts. Twitter is in a better position (checking IP addresses etc) to authenticate this. After investigation this mans company makes false claims, his only training is in repairing computers and he was CEO of multiple failed companies and lied on his bankruptcy forms.

People usually complain in the comments sections. Whether it’s about individuals or governments, it’s mostly the dissatisfied people who comment critically.

I guess sales of Harry’s book will be a better indicator of interest in Meghan & Harry. If it sells really well, you’ve got to think that people want to know more about them. People who really don’t like them may still sit down and watch an easily accessible (for many people) Netflix show -although God Knows why? If I disliked H&M as much as some of the posters on mn do, the last thing I’d watch is a show about them. When it comes to a book, people have to make the extra effort of buying it (or borrowing from a library, as I will).

I was quite shocked that they would film scenes in the bath.