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Discussing the things we liked about Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary series

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 08/12/2022 14:22

There are so many threads on things posters hated about Harry and Meghan, the Netflix series, and fair play to those posters, so I thought I would have a go at stating a thread discussing some of the things that posters liked about the series.

I'll start.

I liked that this was supposed to be this bomb detonation, but has actually been a measured, warm, and loving look at H and M's relationship, and the pressures that the press put on them, and also on other royals. I genuinely did not notice anything incendiary. Maybe that is still to come.

I enjoyed the thoughtful insights shared on the invisible contract, especially, as Harry says, having to perform for a press that you know has said hurtful things about people you love.

I loved the warm memories of Sandringham, and meeting the Queen. And Meghan's memories of growing up. I think it was a wise, though sad, that they did not include Thomas. I really loved hearing Doria: my favourite bit is when a journalist offered her money, for an interview about Meghan and she said, "That's my child!"

I also learned for the first time about Meghan's relationship with her sister Samantha's daughter Ashleigh. I had no idea that she had been raised by her grandparents who adopted her, or that she had such a warm and caring relationship with Meghan. Along with Doria's, that was my favourite interview.

I enjoyed hearing from her childhood friends, as it is often said here that she had no friends who came to the wedding etc, just celebrities. They seem a tight nit grip who have been here fr years, and I am glad she has them.

I was gobsmacked that she needed security in Toronto after the relationship was announced.

I also thought the discussion on racism, in its wider context of colonialism and imperialism, was very well done, but then again it was led by David Olusoga and Afua Hirsch, who are always great, and I love their writing.

Most of all I love that Harry confronted head on the Nazi uniform debacle, and what he learned from it. And I loved, loved, loved, the segment on his life in Lesotho where they gave him the Sesotho name, "Mahale". A wonderful name.

“It was one of the biggest mistakes of my life,” Harry said. “I felt so ashamed afterwards. All I wanted to do was make it right. I sat down and spoke to the chief rabbi in London, which had a profound effect on me. I went to Berlin and spoke to a Holocaust survivor. I could have just ignored it and made the same mistakes over again in my life. But I learned from that.”

I predicted on another thread that Harry would address this and other episodes head on in his book. I was scoffed roundly for this. I expect him to say more in is book, and I am happy to be proved right.

If only for this, I am very glad they did this.

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BadSantaToo · 11/12/2022 21:33

I have to agree with @WillMellorsHips that all this crap that is churned out from The Ks to M and H is fuelled by the public watching it surely? No watchers then no crap reality shows.

minou123 · 11/12/2022 22:10

BadSantaToo · 11/12/2022 21:30

I understand that the documentary is their story but though someone else's lens .

What?

That doesn't make any sense. They are in the documentary, talking, speaking, telling thier story.

How can it be through someone else's lens?

Spectre8 · 11/12/2022 22:42

A large majority of people are a bunch of hypocrites. On surface level they will chime in that bullying, racism etc is wrong bit then they will go click on articles that do exactly that. The media publish these disgusting articles trading ppl down because people read it and it then makes them more money. If collectively we all pushed back then they would stop.

I find it abhorrent thay people justly think its okay the media do this to people.

Quirkyme · 11/12/2022 23:24

Aww OP's intentions were met with some real horrid people here, however, I enjoyed the thread when it first started.

If anyone is looking for a good laugh that is related to the thread topic, enjoy!

onlylarkin · 12/12/2022 00:25

@Spectre8 not only do they think it is ok, they blame them. I cant believe how many times I have read this week how they wouldn't get this abuse if they didn't put these types of programs out there, completely ignoring that this was all out there when they were not allowed to speak. Absolutely no insight about the fact that this is Meghan and Harry finally having a voice.

@Quirkyme sadly, this type of thing is happening quite often. Lots of people around the world looking on aghast and with amusement at the backlash.

I saw an article that said this was Netflix's highest rated release to date. Not surprised actually, but amused that quite a few of those views are people tuning in just to find something to hate about.

BadSantaToo · 12/12/2022 00:49

minou123 · 11/12/2022 22:10

What?

That doesn't make any sense. They are in the documentary, talking, speaking, telling thier story.

How can it be through someone else's lens?

You obviously have not read what M herself said.

pagesix.com/2022/10/19/meghan-markle-admits-docuseries-is-now-how-we-would-have-told-it/

There you go. Maybe you will understand now.

BadSantaToo · 12/12/2022 00:52

@minou123 perhaps think twice the next time before trying to ridicule someone without knowing all the facts.

minou123 · 12/12/2022 01:12

Ah, so you took MM words, twisted it, then portrayed it as your own opinion. Got it.

What MM said, to quote
"It’s nice to be able to trust someone with our story — a seasoned director whose work I’ve long admired — even if it means it may not be the way we would have told it. But that’s not why we’re telling it. We’re trusting our story to someone else, and that means it will go through their lens."

Slightly different to saying
"I understand that the documentary is their story but though someone else's lens."

BadSantaToo · 12/12/2022 01:14

minou123 · 12/12/2022 01:12

Ah, so you took MM words, twisted it, then portrayed it as your own opinion. Got it.

What MM said, to quote
"It’s nice to be able to trust someone with our story — a seasoned director whose work I’ve long admired — even if it means it may not be the way we would have told it. But that’s not why we’re telling it. We’re trusting our story to someone else, and that means it will go through their lens."

Slightly different to saying
"I understand that the documentary is their story but though someone else's lens."

That's OK. I understand you are embarrassed and you are trying to still attack. 😂

walkinthewoodstoday · 12/12/2022 22:51

I liked how we got to see Meghan's background (and not the tabloid shit stirring about how her ancestors are this and that). It was lovely to see how she took initiative from an early age for activism and that she is clearly very bright. Like Harry said, she was actually a perfect fit for the RF- she was modern and different but will compassionate values

onlylarkin · 12/12/2022 23:14

Saw the new trailer. 2 things that caught my attention. Both said by Harry. I am paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact words.

First is, "you can't open a new chapter without first finishing the last one"

Second "I always felt that this was worth fighting for"

I can't wait to see the next 3 episodes.

Roussette · 13/12/2022 05:25

onlylarkin · 12/12/2022 23:14

Saw the new trailer. 2 things that caught my attention. Both said by Harry. I am paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact words.

First is, "you can't open a new chapter without first finishing the last one"

Second "I always felt that this was worth fighting for"

I can't wait to see the next 3 episodes.

Nor me!

And all those who loathe the couple will again come on here saying I'm not watching that crap but spend days criticising it endlessly

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/12/2022 06:36

One thing always being trotted out on other threads is that they should give up their titles if they think there is racism.

Almost like no one understands that you can be part of something that you would like to see reform, change, introspect.

M and H never said the ENTIRE institution is racist or that all the members are racist. H talked about unlearning unconscious bias. Surely that is a good thing.

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Lampzade · 13/12/2022 06:57

As my dm said yesterday. The truth will eventually come out . So it is only the liars who have something to worry about….

Really looking forward to watching the rest of the series. Higher ratings guaranteed despite the detractors claiming that the Sussexes are ‘irrelevant’

ItREALLYishimnotyou · 13/12/2022 09:27

MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/12/2022 06:36

One thing always being trotted out on other threads is that they should give up their titles if they think there is racism.

Almost like no one understands that you can be part of something that you would like to see reform, change, introspect.

M and H never said the ENTIRE institution is racist or that all the members are racist. H talked about unlearning unconscious bias. Surely that is a good thing.

That's like saying you can be a member of a far right group in order to change them. It doesn't really work in that situation does it? There isn't much financial gain in doing that though, is there?

Elisabetty · 13/12/2022 09:44

Has anyone noticed how differently the swedish royal family treats their "prodigal" youngest? Princess Madeleine married an american and moved to states. She is still Her Royal Highness and participates in official court happenings when visiting Sweden. Her three children were given duchies when born and got royal christenings. Madeleine herself was given a job in queen Silvias charity organization (althought she married a rich man so doesnt really need a job). She does not get royal funding from tax payers except when she officially represents Sweden. Of course what the royal family gives her from their private funds is their business.

Some of the haters might state that she doesn't do documentaries or interviews, but then again her funding was not cut. She doesn't need the income. And she doesn't need to protect herself or her children from the british paparazzis. The swedish yellow press is mild compared to the british. And her husband can still continue his own work, it was not made impossible with the press stalking.

Roussette · 13/12/2022 11:44

Elisabetty · 13/12/2022 09:44

Has anyone noticed how differently the swedish royal family treats their "prodigal" youngest? Princess Madeleine married an american and moved to states. She is still Her Royal Highness and participates in official court happenings when visiting Sweden. Her three children were given duchies when born and got royal christenings. Madeleine herself was given a job in queen Silvias charity organization (althought she married a rich man so doesnt really need a job). She does not get royal funding from tax payers except when she officially represents Sweden. Of course what the royal family gives her from their private funds is their business.

Some of the haters might state that she doesn't do documentaries or interviews, but then again her funding was not cut. She doesn't need the income. And she doesn't need to protect herself or her children from the british paparazzis. The swedish yellow press is mild compared to the british. And her husband can still continue his own work, it was not made impossible with the press stalking.

That's interesting. What awful press we have to make that sort of royal duty impossible here.

Roussette · 14/12/2022 07:07

This is interesting

www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/netflix-harry-meghan-premiere-week-ratings-1235281272/

Despite some saying it was a complete flop, it obviously wasn't!

‘Harry & Meghan‘ Logs Netflix’s Best-Ever Premiere Week for Documentaries
'Wednesday' also crosses the billion-hour mark in the streamer's internal viewing measurement.

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 08:07

Roussette · 14/12/2022 07:07

This is interesting

www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/netflix-harry-meghan-premiere-week-ratings-1235281272/

Despite some saying it was a complete flop, it obviously wasn't!

‘Harry & Meghan‘ Logs Netflix’s Best-Ever Premiere Week for Documentaries
'Wednesday' also crosses the billion-hour mark in the streamer's internal viewing measurement.

Lots of people watched it correct. Sadly lots or people have said it it is obviously one sided, self indulgent overly flowery twaddle. Depends how you measure success I suppose.

Roussette · 14/12/2022 09:18

Rhondaa · 14/12/2022 08:07

Lots of people watched it correct. Sadly lots or people have said it it is obviously one sided, self indulgent overly flowery twaddle. Depends how you measure success I suppose.

Lots of people, except you of course

MandarinCat · 14/12/2022 13:02

I've watched the first 3 episodes. Nothing that controversial. I watched the 3rd one the same day I watched a documentary about April Jones. Both programmes emphasised how awful the paparazzi are. They even got into April Jones mother's house uninvited 😞

. It's good to see M and H's side and how badly the media behave. My parents are bound to have an opinion about it over Christmas Dinner. They won't have watched it of course. They don't have netflix. Won't stop them having an.opinion!

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 14/12/2022 15:23

I also didn’t think the episodes were especially controversial or exciting. Very different from the Oprah intervjew. But I am baffled that they think the US press are kinder or that they’re in a safer country. Even more baffles that M apparently didn’t experience racism until she came to the UK. Yeah right.

I am enjoying the archive footage and hearing about their backgrounds and childhoods

Aspiringmatriarch · 14/12/2022 15:26

Even more baffles that M apparently didn’t experience racism until she came to the UK. Yeah right.

Why are you doubting that - surely you've seen all the posters saying they didn't even realise she was mixed race?

rumship · 14/12/2022 15:31

Aspiringmatriarch · 14/12/2022 15:26

Even more baffles that M apparently didn’t experience racism until she came to the UK. Yeah right.

Why are you doubting that - surely you've seen all the posters saying they didn't even realise she was mixed race?

So does that mean all those of us who did not know at the time, who did not like her at the time are not rasist then or are we now rasist be cause megan says so be cause we did not change our minds once we reaslised she was mixed race 🙄

Aspiringmatriarch · 14/12/2022 15:58

rumship · 14/12/2022 15:31

So does that mean all those of us who did not know at the time, who did not like her at the time are not rasist then or are we now rasist be cause megan says so be cause we did not change our minds once we reaslised she was mixed race 🙄

If the cap doesn't fit, why worry about it? She's hasn't personally accused you of racism towards her has she? You seem to be wilfully misunderstanding what she was saying anyway.

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