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Wessex rude to comedians

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antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 13:42

This does astound me. The level of rudeness is breathtaking. The Earl and Countess of Wessex attended the Royal Variety Show and met performers backstage afterwards. Frank Skinner and Baddiel were doing their Three Lions song but Skinner was ill and his throat hurt.

“Sophie led the way, bearing in mind I’d had a really hard day and I battled on like a trooper. So she comes up and she says ‘Well, don’t give up your day job’. I thought ‘This is not how the royal walk thing works’. And we honestly said ‘Pardon?’ It’s supposed to be just banal compliments. I said ‘Was it that bad?’ And she said: ‘Well, you know, I could tell, you know, it’s not what you do’. And I said ‘Erm, well, normally we’re like comics’. She said, ‘Yeah, but you’re on screen aren’t you, you’re not used to a live crowd’.”
“I said: ‘Well we’ve done a bit of live stuff you know, stand-up and stuff’. But she’s sticking with it and she said ‘Yeah, but you haven’t done anywhere the size of this’. I said ‘Look, I did the Palladium last Sunday’. She looked at me like ‘you’re not supposed to be arguing, I don’t think you’re supposed to be arguing with me, you’re supposed to just nod’. It was like a really awkward thing.”
Skinner went on to say that Prince Edward also came up to him and Baddiel and criticised their performance. He said that while he could not recall his exact words, he remembered sarcastically replying “that’s a good review”. The comedian felt their conversational efforts were somewhat lacking for people of their stature."

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/frank-skinner-sophie-wessex-three-lions-b2238854.html

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wordler · 05/12/2022 16:34

AgentProvocateur · 05/12/2022 16:26

I had a sex dream about Frank Skinner about 20 years ago, and I’ve had a crush on him ever since. 😂

OMG! You just reminded me that so did I!

vincettenoir · 05/12/2022 16:36

I can’t muster any sympathy for them after their cynical comeback song making money off the Lionesses.

CuordiMela765 · 05/12/2022 16:39

Mmm I think we will see a lot more stories like this emerging about some members of the RF now that the Queen is dead. The press held off reporting some things out of respect for her, but now it’s a case of no holds barred!

It’s been noted ever since that disastrous ‘It’s a Royal Knockout’ that Prince Edward is tone deaf! He comes across as rude too when he refuses to shake hands with people in crowds when that is literally the only thing he is employed to do and which earns him and his family the right to live in Bagshot Hall, worth £30 million!

And remember Sophie’s dodgy sheikh scandal? It was quite rightly reported as a scam in which she was entrapped BUT, if you read the transcripts, she said lots and lots of of additional nasty, unnecessary and very unprofessional things about major political figures of the time, which demonstrated arrogance as well as stupidity. She even criticised William Hague’s accent in a rather snobby way. Sorry, but it was a lot more than an entrapment! It was such a disaster not only because of the attempt to gain money (which was bad enough but at least kind of understandable given her circumstances at the time) but because it showed her up to be (allegedly) a rather unpleasant person. Or that was the sentiment at the time anyway.

Since then, to be fair, she has at least appeared to put her head down and work a bit which is more than can be said for some of them!

But where do you think all those little puff pieces about Sophie being a trusted confidante of the Queen came from? (Bearing in mind that S’s former career was in PR.)

Richard Kay alludes to this in an article he wrote in the Fail that didn’t garner a great deal of interest at the time it was written, but it speculated about why Charles seems reluctant to gift Edward the Duke of Edinburgh title;

”There is one other issue, of course: sibling rivalry. After two high-profile interviews in which Edward talked about the challenge of inheriting his father’s dukedom, it does seem as if there is a bit of ‘Wessex fatigue’ among some members of ‘the Firm’ and Charles has fired a warning shot. It doesn’t help that Charles and Camilla are not very close to Edward and Sophie. It has been that way ever since the Prince insisted his brother and sister-in-law give up commercial activities after the 2001 ‘Fake sheikh’ newspaper sting when the Countess was recorded making disparaging remarks about senior politicians.

The Wessexes’ PR campaign blew up in their faces: The Wessexes’ physical proximity to the Queen at Windsor Castle and a discreet PR campaign which has emphasised their closeness to the Sovereign and that they are considered a safe pair of hands, has irritated some at Clarence House. ‘It has been noted that they are often described as ‘indispensable’,’ says a figure close to the Duchess of Cornwall. ‘It feels strategic.’

Not a done deal: ‘Charles is making it clear that his brother may have jumped the gun [over the title of Duke of Edinburgh],’ says one of Charles’s circle. ‘It is not a done deal.’ “

I should be clear that I am no fan of Charles’s either for that matter. The whole family set up is toxic anyway! Imagine your brother deciding your role and status in life and income, not based on his superior intellect or capacity for work, but purely on serendipitous order of birth? That’s good cause to grind your axe alright! Time for the whole lot to go imho!

StellaAndCrow · 05/12/2022 16:45

I'd see "don't give up the day job" as a jokey compliment about his comedian skills i.e. you're a good comedian, carry on!

Bluekerfuffle · 05/12/2022 16:57

I’m surprised he didn’t find it funny, as it was probably meant that way.

Moranguinho · 05/12/2022 17:07

Saucery · 05/12/2022 14:09

Frank Skinner’s a creepy sleaze.

Oh, like what?

Justasec321 · 05/12/2022 17:09

It reads like it was a joke that did not land well.

But - the problem seems to not be the joke per se but the double down, triple down, and not letting it go.

That is what happened the other lady last week too - she did not let it go.

One would think that people who spend their lives making small talk would be able to let things go?

Or maybe because they spend their lives making small talk it becomes harder?

antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 17:16

CuordiMela765 · 05/12/2022 16:39

Mmm I think we will see a lot more stories like this emerging about some members of the RF now that the Queen is dead. The press held off reporting some things out of respect for her, but now it’s a case of no holds barred!

It’s been noted ever since that disastrous ‘It’s a Royal Knockout’ that Prince Edward is tone deaf! He comes across as rude too when he refuses to shake hands with people in crowds when that is literally the only thing he is employed to do and which earns him and his family the right to live in Bagshot Hall, worth £30 million!

And remember Sophie’s dodgy sheikh scandal? It was quite rightly reported as a scam in which she was entrapped BUT, if you read the transcripts, she said lots and lots of of additional nasty, unnecessary and very unprofessional things about major political figures of the time, which demonstrated arrogance as well as stupidity. She even criticised William Hague’s accent in a rather snobby way. Sorry, but it was a lot more than an entrapment! It was such a disaster not only because of the attempt to gain money (which was bad enough but at least kind of understandable given her circumstances at the time) but because it showed her up to be (allegedly) a rather unpleasant person. Or that was the sentiment at the time anyway.

Since then, to be fair, she has at least appeared to put her head down and work a bit which is more than can be said for some of them!

But where do you think all those little puff pieces about Sophie being a trusted confidante of the Queen came from? (Bearing in mind that S’s former career was in PR.)

Richard Kay alludes to this in an article he wrote in the Fail that didn’t garner a great deal of interest at the time it was written, but it speculated about why Charles seems reluctant to gift Edward the Duke of Edinburgh title;

”There is one other issue, of course: sibling rivalry. After two high-profile interviews in which Edward talked about the challenge of inheriting his father’s dukedom, it does seem as if there is a bit of ‘Wessex fatigue’ among some members of ‘the Firm’ and Charles has fired a warning shot. It doesn’t help that Charles and Camilla are not very close to Edward and Sophie. It has been that way ever since the Prince insisted his brother and sister-in-law give up commercial activities after the 2001 ‘Fake sheikh’ newspaper sting when the Countess was recorded making disparaging remarks about senior politicians.

The Wessexes’ PR campaign blew up in their faces: The Wessexes’ physical proximity to the Queen at Windsor Castle and a discreet PR campaign which has emphasised their closeness to the Sovereign and that they are considered a safe pair of hands, has irritated some at Clarence House. ‘It has been noted that they are often described as ‘indispensable’,’ says a figure close to the Duchess of Cornwall. ‘It feels strategic.’

Not a done deal: ‘Charles is making it clear that his brother may have jumped the gun [over the title of Duke of Edinburgh],’ says one of Charles’s circle. ‘It is not a done deal.’ “

I should be clear that I am no fan of Charles’s either for that matter. The whole family set up is toxic anyway! Imagine your brother deciding your role and status in life and income, not based on his superior intellect or capacity for work, but purely on serendipitous order of birth? That’s good cause to grind your axe alright! Time for the whole lot to go imho!

This is a great comment.

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mathanxiety · 05/12/2022 17:24

@RaRaRaspoutine

Excellent and very funny comment!

mathanxiety · 05/12/2022 17:32

@CuordiMela765

Excellent post.

LondonWolf · 05/12/2022 17:33

Theunamedcat · 05/12/2022 15:51

Why is everyone so fucking offended all of a sudden open season on the royal family its getting boring 😴

To be fair, this OP starts nearly all the threads moaning about the royal family. Completely obsessed and clearly never getting the response they want.

mathanxiety · 05/12/2022 17:33

@StellaAndCrow

That's 100% not what that comment means.

diddl · 05/12/2022 17:34

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Andylion · 05/12/2022 17:37

antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 16:01

@stilldumdedumming He is actually known to be pretty kind face-to-face. I am nit a fan of Frank Skinner, but he is not known to be rude.
The Wessexes though...

Are the Wessexes known for being rude?

KateBain · 05/12/2022 17:38

God! It sounds like Sophie was just attempting to banter and Skinner is trying to turn it into a Lady Susan moment.

toomuchlaundry · 05/12/2022 17:42

Comedians seems to be able to be rude about people, maybe they should accept someone getting their own back.

Do you know Frank Skinner well @antelopevalley

antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 17:44

@toomuchlaundry You know I do not, As I said I am not a fan. But when people mention nice and nasty celebrities, he is always talked about as kind in real life.

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ArcaneWireless · 05/12/2022 17:45

I imagine known about as well as those they continually have an opinion on.

derxa · 05/12/2022 17:46

antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 17:44

@toomuchlaundry You know I do not, As I said I am not a fan. But when people mention nice and nasty celebrities, he is always talked about as kind in real life.

Is he?😳

IGoWalkingAfterMidnight · 05/12/2022 17:47

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RocketsMagnificent7 · 05/12/2022 17:47

antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 17:44

@toomuchlaundry You know I do not, As I said I am not a fan. But when people mention nice and nasty celebrities, he is always talked about as kind in real life.

Pretty sure his name has come up more than once on threads about rude celeb encounters on here.

ArcaneWireless · 05/12/2022 17:48

Always?

So why are they words ‘creepy sleaze’ on this thread?

PinkTonic · 05/12/2022 18:07

antelopevalley · 05/12/2022 16:01

@stilldumdedumming He is actually known to be pretty kind face-to-face. I am nit a fan of Frank Skinner, but he is not known to be rude.
The Wessexes though...

Aren’t known to be rude either. Give it a rest or people might think you’re on someone’s payroll.

derxa · 05/12/2022 18:10

Sophie Wessex is due to receive an award from Hilary Clinton for her work. Perhaps OP wants to detract from that.

ThighMistress · 05/12/2022 18:12

I am convinced this was a really awful attempt at being jokey.

I am not some royal apologist, but my ds met Prince Edward at an event, and said he was rather awkward, but really tried hard with conversation and had obviously done lots of homework on the organisation. Some people there were being quite unpleasant, sniggering etc. imagine having to deal with this - I’d Find Freedom faster than anyone.