Kate and William booed at Celtic game in Boston

[antelopevalley]

Kate and William have six events on their trip to Boston, one of which is attending a Celtic baseball game. Every time their faces were shown on the Jumbotron ( giant TV screen) they were booed and there were chants of USA. William and Kate reportedly looked very uncomfortable at the game.

They hadn't done anything wrong at the game. They turned up suitably dressed and watched the game, that was all.

But I think going to Boston and especially to the Celtics game was always a mistake. They seem to operate on the basis that everyone will be thrilled to see the Royal Family and do not appear to understand that this is not always the case. They need to choose the places they visit much more carefully and drop any outdated beliefs that they will be welcome everywhere they go.

Agree they should stay at home and send the Nanny instead.

Exactly @maranella

Yes Irish-Americans are several generations removed from Ireland itself, but the only reason they are American is because of British policies that led to millions of Irish people dying or emigrating. Of course this is still an emotional issue in the diaspora, this is the whole reason they are a diaspora.

I'm originally from the East Coast, we also grow up immersed in the American Revolution as so many events happened there (like the Boston Massacre) it's not going to be super royal friendly in general.

Honestly the royals just flitting around their former colonies like everyone should still love them, it's so dumb

I've nothing against William and Kate. But swanning around the globe expecting to be cheered for no good reason is wearing a bit thin.

Very few countries are currently actively being oppressed by the British or the royal family. It is almost universally the children and grandchildren of the people who were oppressed.

Why would that be different for the descendants that came from Ireland? Because they now live in England? Why should Americans care about the royal family at all?

Live in America

They were very ill advised to go to that game. They seem to not live in the real world.

The Good Friday agreement was about 4 years before 9/11, so I doubt it

Exactly. The amount of incorrect and ignorant misinformation spouted on MN as fact leaves a lot to be desired.

Also I'm pretty sure the US never designated the IRA (Provos) a terrorist organisation. They did designate the Real IRA later on (the splitters that did not support the Good Friday agreement).

It was reported on the TV news that after 9/11 Irish American funding of the IRA fell dramatically.
I have no idea if that was true, but it was on the BBC news. Although a bit of a side issue.

Funny how the actual tours in Ireland seem to be fine. Weren't Irish Americans a massive funders of the IRA despite actually not living there or having any living relatives?? Many will Americans will say they are Irish when they aren't 🤣🤣 An own goal for them to visit there .

The point is whether you agree with what some Irish Americans think or not, the Royal Family need to be smarter and not assume everyone welcomes them. They need to do the groundwork when choosing where to go.

I played a mental game with myself to see if I could guess the OP before I vlicked on this thread.

Guess what? I was right! I actually laughed out loud 🤣 😂 😆

Didn't bother reading it though...

The poster that response was to was simply asking a question. She wasn't 'spouting' it as fact.

@IGoWalkingAfterMidnight

Mutual pat on the back needed I reckon.

My husband's father's family is Irish-American. His grandfather and uncles left Ireland due to famine and oppression, and they supported and raised money for the IRA once they got established in the US. My father-in-law, born in the US, was also a staunch supporter of the IRA. I never understood it, but at this point it's a cultural thing with many Irish-Americans as the stories their grandparents told stayed with them. My husband, second generation removed from steerage, doesn't feel that way, but many others still do.

Seeing comments from Boston sports fans saying that's just the nature of rowdy Bostonians, and the footage wasn't that bad - looked like they still had a good time and there were cheers for them as well during the same game. William won't be bothered he endures all the Liverpool football boos with good grace. Felt a bit sorry for Kate though, I don't know how she keeps her game face on - I would be terrible at that - every thought shows up instantly.

Some Irish-Americans have strange ideas about the "aul sod" and the British, etc. All very out of date because Ireland itself has moved on a lot from that. A poor choice of game, they need better advice.

Perhaps the trip to the basketball was suggested by the Mayor or was it the Senator and his wife in Boston. Not realising the reaction.
I don't think there's be the same reaction at a Celtic game in Scotand as mentioned above - I think they'd be largely ignored. Celtic/ Rangers keep their wrath for each other..

It’s actually not difficult to understand what Irish Americans feel about England/ the Royal Family.
Would anyone expect third or fourth generation descendants of those subjected to slavery think they have no cause to feel passionately about?
Its just the Irish who are considered unworthy or not capable of “getting over” what the British did to Ireland.
The British systematically destroyed much of Irish culture- preventing schools from teaching the Irish language, preventing Irish games and sports, preventing Catholics from celebrating or practicing their religion.. and essentially starving most of a country to death.
The people who left and went to America rarely travelled as families- one went to try to make it for the rest of the family.
Do people consider the Ukrainian response to be terrorism?
No… because we “see” the war. The war on Ireland was a war on people who were living hand to mouth, living rurally, posing absolutely no threat to the Empire.
To think “just get over it” or that the modern IRA is the issue that Irish people- especially abroad - have with “the crown” is very, very misguided.
But it’s hardly surprising, given the way that history is taught in the UK.

www.bostonglobe.com/2022/11/30/sports/celtics-had-some-royal-guests-wednesday-prince-william-kate/

Entirely different reporting of last evening in Boston itself - and not just in the Boston Globe but on radio etc. Apparently the original plan was to leave at half time but they stayed on and were unphased by .... shock/horror ... unruly and loud fans.

Still, it was a great excuse to get a bit of anti- Irish American vitriol in.

Absolutely agree @dreamingbohemian

If any other forced famine-displaced diaspora were called batshit and had their 2nd/3rd gen heritage disputed, that might come across as hateful. Of course that view going to live out longer there - they had to leave their land.

Also the IRA chat/comparisons: folk should be allowed to dislike an institution that helped a famine persist without been likened to terrorist enablers. Very odd chat in this thread.

A little naive of W&K, really.

W and K turned up at my local Londisshop in rural County Kildare last year and it didn't bother people, no boos, etc as far as I'm aware. I think they had a pretty uneventful visit to the country in general. I think if the Irish living in Ireland can be courteous to them, despite the history, I think the Irish-Americans can too.

@Blargh
But why should the Irish Americans be respectful?

Did anyone ask that they should be respectful?

They are still clueless and so far removed from the real world that they keep tripping.
Its that visit, the latest racist remark/behaviour, MM etc etc etc….

They are struggling massively with the transition from the Queen (she had been there for so long that many of those issues were masked I think)