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The royal family

SPARE - Harry’s book release announced

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Rinoachicken · 27/10/2022 11:34

So he’s called it ‘Spare’ and it’s being released on 23rd Jan.

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PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:34

Yes @Sapphiresanddiamonds there's some corkers on this thread!

StormzyinaTCup · 28/10/2022 09:35

He is just a spoilt man child. He has everything he ever wanted, a wife he adores, two lovely children, a grand house, plenty of money and access to the best therapists money can buy and he is still not happy with his lot.There are millions of people all over the world would give their right arm for just one of the above.

Some people will read the book and buy into the victim narrative of poor Harry, and what an unfair and challenging life he has had.

Most people will see him as a fool who has handed the media a huge amount of fodder on a silver platter. There will be some negative light shone on the RF I’m sure but I think he will come off worse.

For someone who doesn’t like media scrutiny it’s odd.

I hope it’s cathartic for him but I suspect it will be the polar opposite.

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:36

Come on Harry, tell us where the bodies have been hidden.

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:36

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:24

@LookingAtYou have you read Harry's book then?

As I've said I'm going by his long record of playing the victim, so yes I'm guessing. I'd bet a tenner it's a complete moanfest, with Charles and Camilla as the villains. He is following his script.

So do you agree he's a raging hypocrite for complaining about her df complaining publicly then doing the same? Go on admit it!

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:38

@LookingAtYou are you feeling ok? I'll answer your question AFTER the book has been released and IF it talks about Thomas Markle.

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:40

What I'd love the book to cover is the Uncle Andy situation behind the scenes. Maybe they fucked off to the US so their children wouldn't have to be around nonces.

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:41

Sorry, should have said 'sweaty nonces'.

MidnightConstellation · 28/10/2022 09:45

He’s not going to dish any dirt on Andrew. His relationship with his cousins is at stake. He doesn’t seem to care about his relationships with his father or brother though.

derxa · 28/10/2022 09:47

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:40

What I'd love the book to cover is the Uncle Andy situation behind the scenes. Maybe they fucked off to the US so their children wouldn't have to be around nonces.

Harry and Meghan are at the moment closest to the Yorks especially Eugenie so I think your hopes will be dashed. They're not remotely concerned with Andrew's misdemeanours only with their own hurty feelings.

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:50

That's a shame. Maybe the Mountbatten trial will bring some things to light.

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:53

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:38

@LookingAtYou are you feeling ok? I'll answer your question AFTER the book has been released and IF it talks about Thomas Markle.

I'm feeling fine thanks. You're missing the point again. It doesn't matter if he mentions Markle senior Confused. The point is they have been highly critical of him breaching their privacy yet H is doing the same about others! Can you really not see that?

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:57

@LookingAtYou whose privacy has he breached? The book hasn't been published yet. Your arguments may be valid in January 2023 but why are you so invested in me agreeing to something I can't possibly know right now?

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:59

'Harry and Meghan are at the moment closest to the Yorks especially Eugenie so I think your hopes will be dashed. They're not remotely concerned with Andrew's misdemeanours only with their own hurty feelings.'

Yes as always they are selective with their outrage and targets of their fury. They need the Yorks as they've few allies in the UK

Morestrangethings · 28/10/2022 10:02

Novella: “Everyone has their own individual experience of their family. Every sibling has different parents as Gabor Mate puts it”

I think that is very true.

One family member can tell a different version of an incident in their childhood that another family member will have trouble recognising.

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I used to do people’s Oral Histories. Something I wrote at the beginning of each transcript went something like this (can’t remember exactly what I wrote): To Anyone reading this, Please remember, that what is true for this person may not be true for other family members reading it. It is not that anyone’s version of anything is wrong, it is that everyone will experience and remember things differently.

When I read on here, that the Queen had said “Recollections may vary,” I thought that was exactly right, and that she did not mean it to be taken as Harry is wrong., or a criticism of Harry - just the Queen acknowledging that recollections can (and do) vary.

I think we all have a right to tell our own story, history. Perhaps it’s important to Harry to get his version down and told, because so many people are telling their versions of his story. To a degree that is much more than most people experience. I would find that very hard to deal with if it was me.

Gilmorehill · 28/10/2022 10:16

MrsMaxDeWinter · 28/10/2022 07:19

Yes, Posey. That was horrible to watch. I can’t imagine what it would be like to endure that at such a young age. Just lost their mum in a shocking accident, on show, no privacy, all the ‘distraught’ public lining the roads, and it being beamed around the world.

@Morestrangethings @PoseyFlump

What I found incredible, and I remember it well, was that Harry and William then went around shaking hands with strangers who had lined up around the palace. I thought that was a terrible thing to make them do and I remember Harry having to smile and say thank you to more than a few people, some who wanted to hug him. Walking behind the coffin was bad enough but the consoling strangers thing took it to another level. And even if you argue that it was the other way round, who needs a bunch of strangers consoling them when they have just lost them mother? That whole thing was badly managed by the Queen, Charles and their advisers.

I absolutely agree with you about having to greet strangers. Those people hugging them should have felt ashamed of themselves. I remember seeing it live on tv and feeling so sorry for the boys.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 28/10/2022 10:56

The point is they have been highly critical of him breaching their privacy yet H is doing the same about others! Can you really not see that?

When did they criticise Thomas Markle for breaching their privacy?

Only Meghan has spoken about Thomas Markle, and then only once, to say that she was disappointed that he was working with the tabloids before their wedding, that she offered help and then lied to her about it when she asked him about working with the tabloids.

Here is the clip.

You may be confusing things with the law suit against the Daily Mail for publishing her letter to him. She did not sue her father and this clip aside, she has not mentioned him in a single interview.

Thomas Markle went on a media blitz, threatening interviews if she did not respond to him. He made it a mission to speak to journalists who were particularly critical of her. Any other father would be called blackmailing and controlling, especially all the "time to take care of Daddy" stuff.

I honestly don't blame Harry and Meghan for doing interviews and writing books, because so many people around them have spoken about them authoritatively.

Speaking for themselves rebalances things. If only for posterity (or future episodes of The Crown)😁

Serenster · 28/10/2022 11:02

When did they criticise Thomas Markle for breaching their privacy?

You must have forgotten Finding Freedom, which we now know Meghan directly contributed to.

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 11:02

'When did they criticise Thomas Markle for breaching their privacy?'

Harry allegedly hasn't even met him. They appear to be no contact so I think we can presume they have been less than impressed with his gossiping. Yet H is doing the same.

They just need to chose who they are really. Public oversharers? Fine. Their choice. But they surely must allow others their public voices too, no?

Readinginthesun · 28/10/2022 11:13

Did Harry not send TM an email / text that was so bad it wasn’t disclosed in Court ?

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 11:14

Speaking for themselves rebalances things. If only for posterity (or future episodes of The Crown)

@MrsMaxDeWinter you're cracking me up 😂😂

Serenster · 28/10/2022 11:17

Readinginthesun · 28/10/2022 11:13

Did Harry not send TM an email / text that was so bad it wasn’t disclosed in Court ?

Yes. The judge declined to have it read aloud as it didn’t reflect well on Harry, but it was mentioned how upsetting it must have been for Thomas Markle to receive.

Coucous · 28/10/2022 11:22

Sapphiresanddiamonds · 28/10/2022 09:33

For those suggesting he was pushed into public appearance at his mother's funeral, I'm guessing (pure conjecture, like everything else on this thread), that he probably had an epic tantrum about wanting to walk behind his mother's coffin, despite those closest to him doing their best to dissuade him. William then worried about how it would look if he didn't do the same, Prince Philip stepped in and said if they were absolutely sure then he would walk with them to support them. Harry, at 12, was probably too young to process the enormity of the situation. William, a couple of years older, understood more.

A child lost his mother in an accident and you make up a story that, a few days after her death, the child had an 'epic tantrum'?

What child? They said on this thread he was nearly a teenager almost a young adult.

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 11:24

@Coucous tomorrow they'll be claiming he had a full beard.

MrsMaxDeWinter · 28/10/2022 11:25

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 11:02

'When did they criticise Thomas Markle for breaching their privacy?'

Harry allegedly hasn't even met him. They appear to be no contact so I think we can presume they have been less than impressed with his gossiping. Yet H is doing the same.

They just need to chose who they are really. Public oversharers? Fine. Their choice. But they surely must allow others their public voices too, no?

Someone up there, sorry it's a long thread, said that free speech means the right to speak, but also means that you take the consequences of that free speech.

I agree 100 and more per cent.

Thomas Markle spoke freely to Piers Morgan, Dan Wooton and Tom Bower among others, including some very unpleasant things about his daughter, and as a consequence lost his daughter, and her new family. I hope he can live with that and considers that his free speech was worth the lost relationships.

In the same way, Harry has the right to speak freely too. And in the same way, I hope he can live with the consequences of that free speech. Depending on how cutting the book is about his family, it may well be the end of the relationship, and they may go no contact.

Like Thomas, he will have to weigh whether having his say is more important than the relationships. What he can't do is what Thomas does, to slag his daughter endlessly while expecting her to open her arms to him.

I suspect that the book will be highly introspective about his childhood, Diana's death, his "coming of age" in grief and loss, including his mistakes, Nazi uniforms, underage drinking etc, finding purpose through the army, how therapy helped him come out the other side and how his wife and kids have helped with his healing.

I genuinely do not believe he is going to be stating family secrets etc, it will be about him finding his way from SPARE to the person he is now. I genuinely do not expect this to be 400 pages of grievances. Especially because this is essentially an American memoir, there will be a lot of healing and inspirational stuff. Happy to take bets on this. !!!!!

Morestrangethings · 28/10/2022 11:39

“Isuspect that the book will be highly introspective about his childhood, Diana's death, his "coming of age" in grief and loss, including his mistakes, Nazi uniforms, underage drinking etc, finding purpose through the army, how therapy helped him come out the other side and how his wife and kids have helped with his healing.

I genuinely do not believe he is going to be stating family secrets etc, it will be about him finding his way from SPARE to the person he is now. I genuinely do not expect this to be 400 pages of grievances. Especially because this is essentially an American memoir, there will be a lot of healing and inspirational stuff. Happy to take bets on this. !!!!”

I’m NOT going to take that bet! I think you are most likely right.

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