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SPARE - Harry’s book release announced

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Rinoachicken · 27/10/2022 11:34

So he’s called it ‘Spare’ and it’s being released on 23rd Jan.

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Readinginthesun · 28/10/2022 08:57

GlorianaCervixia · 28/10/2022 08:44

Harry said himself, not that many years ago, that it was a family decision to walk behind the coffins and he was glad that he did it.

He might say something different in his memoir, we don’t know yet, but that’s what he’s put on the record about it.

Yes, I remember that .

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 08:57

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 08:53

Any grievances he has should be aired privately with family members, and resolved privately.

And yet how successful is that? How many MN threads have we read where posters have tried speaking with parents about their traumatic childhood just for them to be ignored or it played down? How do you know he hasn't already tried that and their denial is what is holding him back from dealing with it all?

He is doing everything he professes to loathe. Selling stories of other people who can't answer back. Why is it ok for him to do it but not, say, her father? why is he such a massive hypocrite with zero self awareness.

He is a sell out with a chip on his shoulder. It is really sad to witness.

Novella4 · 28/10/2022 08:59

@LookingAtYou

I'm not defending Harry because I'm not 100% confident he's as republican as I am lol but all this talk of who is right re memory is just weak .

Everyone has their own individual experience of their family. Every sibling has different parents as Gabor Mate puts it

I think it was @PoseyFlump who said this family needs as much light on it as possible . I couldn't agree more . I'm so sick of royal coverups and secrecy- mind you they have plenty to be ashamed of .
I think the book will be massive in terms of impact and sales

Croque · 28/10/2022 08:59

Morestrangethings · 28/10/2022 05:09

No, I don’t think it is remotely mad. From birth until about 30 years old he was the spare.

Maybe he misses being the spare and has written the book as therapy for other spares.🙂

Readinginthesun · 28/10/2022 09:00

pumpkinscoop · 28/10/2022 08:33

For those suggesting he was pushed into public appearance at his mother's funeral, I'm guessing (pure conjecture, like everything else on this thread), that he probably had an epic tantrum about wanting to walk behind his mother's coffin, despite those closest to him doing their best to dissuade him. William then worried about how it would look if he didn't do the same, Prince Philip stepped in and said if they were absolutely sure then he would walk with them to support them. Harry, at 12, was probably too young to process the enormity of the situation. William, a couple of years older, understood more.

It's actually William I feel sorry for in all this stirring by Harry. He lost his mother at a young age too. His whole life has been shaped by his future role. He's had to watch Harry shit all over their shared childhood (Harry's been caught out in quite a few 'misrememberances'), had to listen to his brother pontificating about how awful his life was and it will go on and on and on despite Harry's protestations of wanting a life out of the media spotlight. All Harry (and his wife) is doing is courting publicity and the limelight, a position they are unqualified for apart from the connection to Harry's family.

I should imagine this book will be taken as gospel by some, in the same way the netflix series is taken as a documentary by some. It may do damage. I very much agree with the tenet' never complain, never explain', but I think particularly Charles and William are wishing they could write a follow up....

I am not convinced that there will be silence after the release of the book .
After the OW interview , Charles wanted to issue a point by point rebuttal but The Queen said no . Well , things are different now . I do think that if Camilla and Catherine are heavily criticised, there will be a robust response as there should be .

Readinginthesun · 28/10/2022 09:02

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 07:48

Very true @MrsMaxDeWinter

@Tillsforthrills you call him a spoilt toddler. I call him a damaged young man. He's angry. And he has every right to be. Why should he go quietly?

I am constantly amazed that posters refer to Harry as a young man . He is almost 40 !!

MaulPerton · 28/10/2022 09:04

But I'll defend Harry's right to tell his story

This is the same argument as the one used to argue for free speech - the 'I may not like what you say but I will defend your right to say it' (paraphrased) quote. This is all well and good but what is often left out from the free speech concept is the second part of the equation - that there are consequences to exercising free speech. Free speech isn't, in fact, 'free' at all. There is always a price to pay for it. Same thing in this instance. He can tell his story all he likes but he has to be prepared to live with the consequences which, hopefully, he has thought through

Novella4 · 28/10/2022 09:05

@Readinginthesun
I hope this new royal openness includes finally including royals under the Freedom of Information Act!

By all means let them have their say - as equal citizens under the law .

Maybe then the royals could also be subject to all the same laws as the rest of us too.

I've never particularly thought the Queen was clever - never complain never explain is a great approach when you don't have much to say in any case .

Croque · 28/10/2022 09:06

But I'll defend Harry's right to tell his story

But will you be feeling that way by the time book three comes out and another five book deal is confirmed?

Harry: the author with multi million pound advances. Who would have ever thought? If nothing else, that is privilege for you right there.

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:08

'I do think that if Camilla and Catherine are heavily criticised, there will be a robust response as there should be'

Let's hope so. I think the rf have to accept that sadly he doesn't want to build bridges he just wants to line his pocket. Maybe this book will be the last straw if he's made crap up to suit his victim agenda. I'm not saying his feelings aren't valid but this is not the way to resolve anything, it's all so blatantly purely revenge for perceived slights.

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:09

Will I 'feel' that way?! I couldn't care less. No one is making you read the books. And as a pp said, charlie no longer has mother to reign him in.

@Novella4 and I are on the same page. This family needs to stop it's cover ups. If we knew the whole truth about the RF you'd all be horrified.

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:11

he doesn't want to build bridges he just wants to line his pocket.

Or alternatively he just wants to tell his story?

Croque · 28/10/2022 09:13

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 08:57

He is doing everything he professes to loathe. Selling stories of other people who can't answer back. Why is it ok for him to do it but not, say, her father? why is he such a massive hypocrite with zero self awareness.

He is a sell out with a chip on his shoulder. It is really sad to witness.

Agree.

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:14

'No one is making you read the books.'

So, you'd support Markle Senior writing about being discarded by his cruel dd, slagging off Harry, afterall you don't have to read it?

Have you heard the Sussexes wang on at length about their privacy being breached, about stories being made up about them. Why is what Harry is doing any different??

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:17

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:11

he doesn't want to build bridges he just wants to line his pocket.

Or alternatively he just wants to tell his story?

And Thomas Markle wanted to tell his. They didn't like that though did they oh nooooo it was an atrocious beach of trust and privacy, how very dare he want to 'tell his story'!

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:19

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:14

'No one is making you read the books.'

So, you'd support Markle Senior writing about being discarded by his cruel dd, slagging off Harry, afterall you don't have to read it?

Have you heard the Sussexes wang on at length about their privacy being breached, about stories being made up about them. Why is what Harry is doing any different??

Are you confusing me with a Megan and Harry superfan? Everyone has the right to tell their story. Everyone has the right to reply. We all choose in life who we believe and who we don't. It's human nature.

Croque · 28/10/2022 09:20

Agree. I seems like "her truth" is superior to "his truth" which doesn't sound very pro-equality. As for "the truth", I saw it fly over their heads in Montecito some time ago (but it could have been their private jet).

Morestrangethings · 28/10/2022 09:21

Looking at you: He is doing what he hates other people doing, presenting an absolutely onesided view of events, worse doing it in the gossipy form of a salacious book for the public to lap up.

Any grievances he has should be aired privately with family members, and resolved privately.

He is doing everything he professes to loathe.”

We don’t know yet what Harry has or has not done in regards to the book - none of us have read it. It’s all supposition, at this point.

And, going by what I’ve read and learned today about the writer JR Moehringer - he’s a Pulitzer Prize winner who doesn’t deal in the ‘gossipy’ or ‘salacious.’

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:21

The only thing I know about Thomas Markle is how he posed in a shop window getting a suit or something? Wouldn't be bothered to read his book but if it floats your boat hey go for it.

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:22

'Everyone has the right to tell their story. Everyone has the right to reply. We all choose in life who we believe and who we don't. It's human nature.'

I'll try again. They didn't like it when her df did if so why is ok for H to? Do you at least agree he is a massive hypocrite?

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:23

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:21

The only thing I know about Thomas Markle is how he posed in a shop window getting a suit or something? Wouldn't be bothered to read his book but if it floats your boat hey go for it.

Spectacularly misses the point again Grin

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:24

@LookingAtYou have you read Harry's book then?

LookingAtYou · 28/10/2022 09:26

'We don’t know yet what Harry has or has not done in regards to the book - none of us have read it. It’s all supposition, at this point.'

Oh we can hazard an educated guess, going by his previous perscection complex comments.

Unless he surprises us all by admitting he has treated his family appallingly and wants to make amends! Perhaps he is reaching out via a multi million book deal. Lovely.

PoseyFlump · 28/10/2022 09:28

Or perhaps he wants to spill the beans on all the paedophiles within the Royal Family. The ones we know about and the other ones.

Sapphiresanddiamonds · 28/10/2022 09:33

For those suggesting he was pushed into public appearance at his mother's funeral, I'm guessing (pure conjecture, like everything else on this thread), that he probably had an epic tantrum about wanting to walk behind his mother's coffin, despite those closest to him doing their best to dissuade him. William then worried about how it would look if he didn't do the same, Prince Philip stepped in and said if they were absolutely sure then he would walk with them to support them. Harry, at 12, was probably too young to process the enormity of the situation. William, a couple of years older, understood more.

A child lost his mother in an accident and you make up a story that, a few days after her death, the child had an 'epic tantrum'?