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Meghan’s latest Archwell podcast- Paris Hilton

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susan12345678 · 19/10/2022 00:44

Having started threads on earlier editions of the Archewell podcast, I felt compelled to comment on the latest - an interview with Paris Hilton - on the theme of the Bimbo.

I’ve not listened - but have read a summary - and the premise strikes me as rather hypocritical.
Meghan apparently mentions taking part in a diplomatic motorcade in Argentina during an internship at the Embassy, a role she claims to have received for her intelligence and education, but neglects to mention that her uncle arranged the (very brief) role for her or the small matter of failing the diplomatic exams. The implication seems to be that she should have been destined for a stellar professional career but sabotaged these possibilities by taking on ‘bimbo’ roles in a short-sighted effort to pay the rent.

The truth of the matter is that she may never have succeeded in a more intellectual or professional career and being a ‘bimbo’ actually served her extremely well - after all, she is someone of middling talent and would never have gained the prominence she has, or access to a wealthy husband, without these ‘bimbo’ roles.

In general, one only has to look at Instagram, Only Fans, Sugar Daddy sites to appreciate the true scale of the ‘bimbo’ economy which was Meghan’s natural habitat. It’s not going anywhere- and it’s an amusing conceit to imagine, now that she’s in her 40s and safely married to a rich man, that it was all somehow beneath her all along

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Gilmorehill · 23/10/2022 16:57

No one is suggesting any harm was done to the children.

MrsTumblebee · 23/10/2022 16:59

I thought the children would have been brought here by the nanny or grandma in the days following the Queens death. It seemed the most natural solution in the world to the situation.

As for complicated. I suspect she was referring to the the role they played in the proceedings (which wasn’t much considering he’s the Kings son), that she was saying without actually going into it that it was very complicated because there were protocols to follow. She may have also been referring to Harry traveling to Scotland alone and the situation with his uniform. Some time it can be easier to say an explanation is complicated because you can’t be bothered talking about it or you don’t think any explanation is warranted. It can also be a very good excuse for avoiding a conversation when you know a conversation may be very uncomfortable.

onlylarkin · 23/10/2022 17:10

Wait, so now she is bad because she didn't fly home to her kids?

Readinginthesun · 23/10/2022 17:16

onlylarkin · 23/10/2022 17:10

Wait, so now she is bad because she didn't fly home to her kids?

Nobody is saying that !
I was just wondering what was so “complicated “ after The Queen’s death given that they didn’t have to organise the funeral .

MidnightConstellation · 23/10/2022 17:25

If I was in that position I would have left the children in their familiar environment and focused on the situation at hand, supporting my husband and trying to navigate a difficult family situation. Bringing the kids over on a lengthy flight to stay in a strange place surrounded by strange people with upset parents and then another long flight home would not have served anyone’s interests. I’m sure Charles was not in a great state himself and wouldn’t have been up to seeing them in the way he would have wanted to.

Im not a fan of either of them but I think they did the right thing on this occasion.

Croque · 23/10/2022 17:33

I cannot recall anybody wondering, asking or judging. She brought it up herself, possibly to garner some interest. Even now, interest in her parenting/ American family life is pretty limited because next to nothing is known about the children.

Croque · 23/10/2022 17:36

I would say that leaving your kids and flying across the world for one week or two weeks makes very little difference from the point of view of young kids who are secure with their regular childcare providers. This is especially true since technology moved on.
The contrast is between mothers who would not leave their pre schoolers behind at all vs. those who would.

MidnightConstellation · 23/10/2022 17:37

They didn’t choose to leave them behind though. It was a situation which occurred whilst they were already away.

MidnightConstellation · 23/10/2022 17:39

Literally the only thing I think they are doing right is keeping their children out of the public eye. Unfortunately when interest in them is much diminished, I think the kids will be their last card .

Croque · 23/10/2022 17:42

I think she described the situation as "complicated" when she actually meant awkward. It was a bit of a FU visit 'We won't be visiting family, we will be staying in our house doing our filming and business deals'. Suddenly HMQ dies and since they are around they are going to have to interact and participate. I bet that there was equal dread from both sides.

queenofarles · 23/10/2022 17:45

as much as I’d miss them, I’d want my very small children to stay put with their grandmother and nannies , I wouldn’t want them to fly from one continent to the other without one parent with them on that flight.

M&H did the right thing imo,

Readinginthesun · 23/10/2022 17:46

You could be right @Croque . it just seemed an odd thing to say .

Coronateachingagain · 23/10/2022 17:47

Croque · 23/10/2022 13:08

What is with all the Backgrid photos she has been putting out since she broke ranks with Sunshine Sachs. Backgrid are paid by her to get her face in the papers going about her contrived, celebrity life.
They do not follow people around taking photos against their will like conventional paparazzi. If that is not a clear indication of a thirst for fame and celebrity then I do not know what is.
It is clinging on to the mistaken belief that she has anything worthwhile to offer beyond the fact that she married a prince.

This.

Also, repetez avec mois:

"Meghan Markle is an activist and an altruist....."

That's the current strategy for you all.

Gilmorehill · 23/10/2022 18:19

Croque · 23/10/2022 17:42

I think she described the situation as "complicated" when she actually meant awkward. It was a bit of a FU visit 'We won't be visiting family, we will be staying in our house doing our filming and business deals'. Suddenly HMQ dies and since they are around they are going to have to interact and participate. I bet that there was equal dread from both sides.

Absolutely. I love the FU visit label! That’s exactly what it was.

MrsTumblebee · 23/10/2022 18:43

Croque · 23/10/2022 17:42

I think she described the situation as "complicated" when she actually meant awkward. It was a bit of a FU visit 'We won't be visiting family, we will be staying in our house doing our filming and business deals'. Suddenly HMQ dies and since they are around they are going to have to interact and participate. I bet that there was equal dread from both sides.

Yes. I agree. The situation was awkward.

I thought the children would have been brought to the UK but them not being brought here was equally as possible. And despite my opinion of Harry and Meghan I don’t for a minute believe they are anything other than very good parents. Seeing Archie being read to and his familiarity with books a while back showed he was a child used to being read to and being lavished with time and attention.

rocketfromthecrypt · 23/10/2022 18:45

MalagaNights · 20/10/2022 11:03

Being attractive is a privilege (to use the current terminology meaning an advantage.)
It's a privilege people who have it are able to exploit. It provides opportunities that less attractive people don't get.

People work hard to maximise their attractiveness because they know it has benefits in social status and opportunity.

MM is an extraordinarily privileged woman. She is attractive, she is reasonably bright, she had wealthy supportive parents and a good education. Pretty much the golden ticket 99% of the world don't get.

And yet still she complains.

About being so attractive she got jobs based on it.

She continues to utilise her attractiveness (as most people would) to get acting parts based on being sexy, & to bag the world's most eligible bachelor. Doesn't she think her looks had something to do with this?
And she continues to do glamorous photo shoots while complaining about people noticing how attractive she is.

It's absurd.

She seems to have some weird image of herself as a serious woman changing the world to make it more kind, who just happens to be attractive, but that doesn't matter as it's just being your authentic self which matters.

When in reality she's an attractive privileged women who's used her skills to bag a prince whilst saying meaningless platitudes.

This comment is very good and deserves to be repeated I think. She wouldn't have got that job if she hadn't been conventionally attractive, which is something many people (including me) would love to be and aren't. She had opportunities denied to many purely because of how she looks. No one forced her to seek and take those opportunities. And yet she complains about it. If she was ugly, she wouldn't be where she is, because she wouldn't have got the acting roles and profile she did and Harry wouldn't have considered a date with her. It just seems so tone deaf to have so much and still moan about it.

MidnightConstellation · 23/10/2022 19:01

rocketfromthecrypt · 23/10/2022 18:45

This comment is very good and deserves to be repeated I think. She wouldn't have got that job if she hadn't been conventionally attractive, which is something many people (including me) would love to be and aren't. She had opportunities denied to many purely because of how she looks. No one forced her to seek and take those opportunities. And yet she complains about it. If she was ugly, she wouldn't be where she is, because she wouldn't have got the acting roles and profile she did and Harry wouldn't have considered a date with her. It just seems so tone deaf to have so much and still moan about it.

All very true except her parents weren’t wealthy. Both were declared bankrupt at different times. Her father had a lottery win which paid for some of her education. He was making a reasonable living for a while, but not consistently.

Aspiringmatriarch · 23/10/2022 19:57

Coronateachingagain · 23/10/2022 17:47

This.

Also, repetez avec mois:

"Meghan Markle is an activist and an altruist....."

That's the current strategy for you all.

It doesn't matter though, does it? She's not doing anything wrong in trying to cultivate a particular public image, albeit in ways that seem a little bit gauche to British sensibilities.

Clearly both she and Harry are in a difficult situation in that they've got to put themselves forward and build an image in order to ensure their longterm financial (and actual) security, and to allow them to support causes in the way they obviously want to do. They will always have a high profile and they will always need security, and they no longer have the infrastructure of the royal family around them to provide that. So it's quite important they do that successfully, and given their respective backgrounds, they're probably finding it quite challenging.

That's not to criticise but just to point out the PR stuff is part and parcel of what they need to be doing, and it's essentially just a bit of harmless fluff really.

Coronateachingagain · 23/10/2022 20:02

@Aspiringmatriarch looks like you did enough repetitions. Yeah it is fake it till you make it - so far, they are far from making it credibility speaking (I know I know they are raking it with Netflix but leta see at what price).

Aspiringmatriarch · 23/10/2022 20:09

I'm not sure I've repeated anything, but don't worry - the snideness is par for the course on these threads so I don't let it bother me. Credibility is subjective I guess - on the one hand, there's your view and the view of the right wing media, and on the other hand charities who are more than happy to work with them, awards they've won, a number 1 podcast, etc.

Coronateachingagain · 23/10/2022 21:19

Oh which awards? Has someone researched that one. I am not sure how you win a meaningful award before you even started on what you poetry you do. But hey there is the awards business to go for to I guess.
Credibility - maybe ask Oprah about it. It will be a while before you see O associated with this pair again.

Gilmorehill · 23/10/2022 22:56

Awards they’ve won 🤣🤣😕

Aspiringmatriarch · 24/10/2022 05:51

Gilmorehill · 23/10/2022 22:56

Awards they’ve won 🤣🤣😕

Yes, two in the past year: from the NAACP for distinguished public service, and recently from the Robert F Kennedy organisation.

Aspiringmatriarch · 24/10/2022 05:55

Coronateachingagain · 23/10/2022 21:19

Oh which awards? Has someone researched that one. I am not sure how you win a meaningful award before you even started on what you poetry you do. But hey there is the awards business to go for to I guess.
Credibility - maybe ask Oprah about it. It will be a while before you see O associated with this pair again.

You seem to have malfunctioned a bit there Corona. I don't understand all of your post but your comment about Oprah sounds like fantasy to me - unless you have some evidence for that? I think not since they were spotted visiting her house just this summer.

MidnightConstellation · 24/10/2022 06:18

Aspiringmatriarch · 24/10/2022 05:51

Yes, two in the past year: from the NAACP for distinguished public service, and recently from the Robert F Kennedy organisation.

Honestly the bar must be so low. What has been distinguished about their public service?

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