Harry and Meghan doing alright in the US, continuing their universal service

[notanotheroneagain]

Have heard a few comments from panellists and commenters thinking that Harry somehow wants to come back to the UK?

I highly doubt this. I think they are doing more than ok in the US.

A pity a positive thread has been deleted regarding the podcasts, maybe the positive conversation can continue here?

In particularly I wanted to highlight the announcement that they will be recipients for the Robert J Kennedy Human Rights award.

“When The Duke and Duchess accepted our award laureate invitation back in March, we were thrilled. The couple has always stood out for their willingness to speak up and change the narrative on racial justice and mental health around the world,” Kerry Kennedy, president of Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights, and Robert F. Kennedy's daughter, said in a statement shared today. “They embody the type of moral courage that my father once called the ‘one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change.’”

"Let's leave it off here" is an order.

I did go back and read the original interaction.

Didn't seem to me the poster was laughing at mental health.

Seemed to me they were laughing either at your claim the podcast was good, or at what they thought was a hypocritical interest in mental health.

I can't speak for them but that was my perception. 🤷🏾‍♀️

I think that's what I said. Easy to do.
However, if MNHQ said they were sockpuppets (very new expression to me this), I think you can guarantee that they were. (They didn't close the thread down I made the mistake on. Nor did the call me sockpuppet. Maybe more a sockmuppet!! Hehe.) But I don't know if MN did actually use the word SP because I didn't follow the thread as I'm not interested in MMs podcasts and I wouldn't give spotify my money even if I were, because the way they treat their staff stinks.

EchoPark I see what you are saying. Just figured it had to be pretty insidious and intentional to be mentioned and have the thread deleted.

Thanks for explaining MarshaMelrose. I was kind of shocked upon realizing I had done it. It was just laziness in not having perma-changed my name back.

I have periodically changed my name because I post personal info sometimes and don’t want it all tied together. Like if someone asks about jobs I might share something. If someone posts about family stuff I might share something private. Nothing major, just kind of private.

@HannaHanna Me too. Not sure where though? An old style chat forum could work. The original sort, do they still exist? Away from mumsnet.

Can someone answer my tag question? ta

Exactly, Hanna. It's just a protective thing, not meant to be deceptive.

Redfrangipanii try TattleLife.

@MarshaMelrose

Ive got two names . One I created to post a question about something very personal to me, and when that was done I went back to this, my current name but I could not delete the other. I just know I’m going to mess up one day and somehow post under that other name. Do you know if you can delete a name?

No, Red, I don't think you can. Maybe because that way, it stops other people using them? But you'd actually have to type it in to use it again. And if you just type it in at the top of your post to change to it temporarily, it reverts to your usual username straight after posting.

I've just checked and I've actually got 22 names. I'd forgotten most of them. I love some of those names. 💗

I don’t see an option to delete. But not sure.

Echo, I took it as a request not to tag, quote, mention etc.

Ive seen people ask not to @ because they don’t like the emails, but think that’s different.

While Meghan has experienced racism, if it was so frequent as the poster has suggested above why did the Oprah Winfrey’s interview make up headlines, surely they could have just googled and copy/pasted ?

I've asked the same thing any number of times, Ohnonevermind and never seen an explanation yet
Perhaps you'll have better luck ...

Thanks Hanna

Thanks MarshaMason

i see what you mean about deleting a name. And thanks for explaining the default to original name: Typical of me I liked that name more than this one, though. I chose this one on a very uninspired day.

Thank you

The deletion message mentions ‘a lot of sockpuppeting going on’ so sounds like they didn’t mean one poster, one name change, and it was ongoing so not historic

i think most people know what was going on on that thread. it was obvious from the start.

Why didn't they delete the posts concerned and send a warning to the poster? I don't understand deleting an entire thread. It's almost as if only certain threads are allowed here.

There must have been a lot of it couscous to warrant deletion, which would have rendered the thread unreadable

Why didn't they delete the posts concerned and send a warning to the poster? I don't understand deleting an entire thread. It's almost as if only certain threads are allowed here.

There must have been a lot of it couscous to warrant deletion, which would have rendered the thread unreadable

Yes. This. Like I said, when I did it, I got warned but could carry on posting after I'd acknowledged I'd done something wrong. I'm sure if it had just been one person making an error, the same would have happened. It sounds like the thread had been manipulated beyond deletions being able to rectify it.

Typical of me I liked that name more than this one, though. I chose this one on a very uninspired day.

Haha, @Redfrangipani. I know what you mean. I have my absolute favourite name but I never use it in case I say something private etc, and I can never use it again. But then I'm not using it anyway!
Get yourself 20 others like me! (Yeah, don't do that! It's a nightmare!)

Hi all,
We're taking a look through this thread now and will be removing any trollhunting or uncivil posts. This includes needlessly negative characterisations of both 'sides' and allegations that any posters on here are from PR firms, bots or troll farms at work.

As all of you know we expect those suspicions to be voiced via the report system and not on-thread. It gives us a much better chance of catching troublemakers in the act, if posters don't wish to comply with that request we're forced to assume they don't really want to resolve the issue and are not acting in good faith.

We do want to take this opportunity to say that to be honest we probably shouldn't have mentioned that there had been socking going on, as it was unlikely to have been the only reason for the deletion judging by the many reports we can see for that thread. The socking does seem to have been blown out of proportion a bit, so we're sorry for causing you to be needlessly suspicious of one another.

We've got pretty decent ways of checking if someone is up to no good, and tend to give (sorry newbs) posters with a decent track record the benefit of the doubt after a chat.
If we see someone new socking then it's an instant zap, in fact the system picks it up first and, as someone has mentioned already, deals with it straightaway.

So in summary, we do want these threads to be able to continue, but it must be with the expectation of good faith on both 'sides'. This thread has been a relatively good example of people with differing viewpoints being able to discuss their thoughts, positive and negative, so we will be keen to keep it up if at all possible.

We hope that helps everyone to see things from our point of view.

Who cares

@HopeMumsnet

Thanks for the message but it's really odd that you haven't put a similar message about uncivil posts on the 'Courtiers - the release!' thread

www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4648502-courtiers-the-release

Can you also make it clear please that posters can't moderate, and that posters can post wherever as long as they comply with your talk guidelines and requests.

Fair enough that support threads for example people with anorexia should not have people posting on it that actively don't support their recovery. But that's not the case with a positive thread about Meghan Markle. It's not a support group FFS. Yet people who were critical in a constructive way were told to leave the positive thread. Hence probably why you had so many reports.

I'm pretty neutral on the subject but all this pushback is making me want to start a 'Constructively Critical of Harry and Meghan' thread. I'm assuming that won't be a problem. I hope, Hope, that if I get a lot of replies attacking the concept and I report them, MNHQ will swoop in and deal with it.

@Coucous

There are many pro-Meghan posters, you just see the negative ones. It’s probably split 50:50 with a bunch in the middle