Courtiers the release !

[jeffgoldblum]

In preparation for the books release , and with permission from randompenguin , I thought it would be good to start this thread now !

I can’t see Meghan doing a PHD. What in? She’s got no first degree she could use in that respect. She doesn’t strike me as academic. She could do lots of charity work though. I don’t know why she doesn’t get involved in the National Youth Theatre or something like that.

You're right - maybe a masters first - in something like social studies, evaluating equality and opportunity in public life and the arts.

Then start a program for supporting minority students to theatre and the arts. Maybe even found and run a theatre program or her own theatre for disadvantaged kids who wouldn't get to go to drama school etc.

That would be wonderful but I can never see her doing that because I don’t believe she is truly a philanthropist at all. She needs to be centre stage at all times and is not a team player. She would not listen to input from others or ideas. She wants luxury, attention and stardom. Everything is all about her. Despite what she says.

Yes and before doing all that, maybe she should compensate all the victims of her bullying

I know she might not want to do it, I'm just suggesting what I'd advise her to do/make her do if I was responsible for repairing their current reputation.

I'd probably be fired immediately for being too opinionated.

I bet it would work though.

Megz, Harry, if you are listening - you need to change tack.

I agree with you.

Well, I can't see Meghan getting a PhD, shopping at Windsor and playing with the children in the local park - it's really not her at all.
She likes the celebrity - that's not a criticism, many people do - so it really has to be California and high profile social events, press releases and promotions.

A PhD? 😂 What a joke!
I was reading with fascination until you mentioned PhD - now I know you were joking

Why wouldn’t Kate get one. She’s been married to William for several years, not worked and attained any qualifications. Was the Queen well educated?
What would be the point of further education if living with and “working” for the RF - I don’t think any of them have pursued PhDs for doing charity work.

Then start a program for supporting minority students to theatre and the arts. Maybe even found and run a theatre program or her own theatre for disadvantaged kids who wouldn't get to go to drama school etc.

I think Meghan only likes hard work when it's glitzy and will raise her own profile.

I was thinking today how relentlessly negative she and H are. Everyone's racist/sexist/bullying/attacking them. When have we ever heard a genuine utterance of love or gratitude from them apart from towards each other? They'll never have to worry about money, food, keeping a roof over their heads. Just constant dwelling on the supposed slights, neglect, lack of care from everyone around them. It's in keeping with the current societal focus on victimhood and being traumatised by the general roughness of life but it's hard to listen to from such privileged and cosseted people.

I wasn't joking - I'd misremembered her Northwestern degree as a Masters, so obviously she can't jump straight to PHD.

It's not saying Megahn needs more education, it was a suggestion for how to spend a couple of years on reputation management. It's relatable, useful, option, pick the right course and it can indicate seriousness about a particular subject which then segues into the next step which would be a public-facing project.

I'm not sure why you brought Kate into it.

I think Meghan only likes hard work when it's glitzy and will raise her own profile.

But that's why something more slow burn and low-key would work - it doesn't mean it won't be glitzy and profile-raising eventually - it's just it takes a bit of time to build up with baby steps.

Change of tack needed - they've tried it the ground running and all out celebrity Hollywood model but it's not helping their overall profile.

Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with you, what you suggest makes total sense, I wasn't criticising. I just don't think she'd have the patience for it and I don't think she would ever really believe that the rewards - acceptance, life satisfaction and the platforms that would enable her to work on the causes she claims to want to - would be worth it. I think she would always be restless and unhappy.

I can't understand H&M . They could have done so much good within the RF - I think whatever you say about Harry - the Invictus games is definitely something he could build upon Meghan I am sure with the RF could have found her place and done much good. I am just not sure why when you are giving up Frogmore cottage ( which I would give my eye teeth for ) you need such a huge house and so so much money. But we will not know . I am a bit disgruntled with the untruths but in the end , their life does not affect mine - so they have made their bed etc .

I believe the Courtiers book does not focus on H&M as much as people might think - it runs though many courtiers from various times / RF members apart from those who have spoken about the Sussexes - so I suspect if that is what people are thinking ( ie H&M ) they can get the gist from newspaper trailers / excerpts etc

You can in the US actually PhDs are longer there . You also can to this in the UK in some instances . . . But this has to be a joke surely. Which other RF family member is as educated?
What age did QE finish school?
I would think she would have been ideal to study for a PhD having that role requires someone quite senior . . perhaps Chuck and Bill too.

@Coucous

Perhaps theology as head of the church (I’d probably abdicate myself then 🤣)

The duchy gives a good grounding in running a diverse business and they probably have lots of schooling in constitutionality anyway.

the army teaches lots of skills too

Meghan is clearly resilient (you’d have to be to have dealt with what she did over the years) and determined. I think she could achieve most things she sets out to. But what I admire about her is that she cannot be controlled. She does what’s in the best interest of her and her family. I think this refusal to conform to others expectations is what really miffs some people. Some feel threatened by it and for others the thought of a woman, particularly a royal, not falling back behind her husband is so alien that it must be wrong.

I believe it’s just over 2.5 years (no time at all) since H&M sought to be financially independent, and they’ve already succeeded. I think they have the potential to do so much more as they grow in experience. I wouldn’t count them out.

On that note, I would encourage Chuck to open Business internships for those coming from the commonwealth.

That’s a really great idea @Coucous

Then start a program for supporting minority students to theatre and the arts. Maybe even found and run a theatre program or her own theatre for disadvantaged kids who wouldn't get to go to drama school etc.

Why can't any other member of the RF do this - Rather than Kate taking on all these roles as being head of ... or Bill as head of some other organisation and turn up to cut ribbons. I would support them in doing something actually valuable and tangible like this.
Imagine the amount of money they could raise. If Kate started a campaign to improve schools in Britain. Imagine how much money they could raise doing events for each school.

That’s a brilliant plan

You are completely missing my point - it's not about getting the education - it's a strategy to deal with their current reputation issues - one option of a way to lay low for a couple of years while doing something productive and creating a different narrative to the negative one they have going at the moment.

Doesn't have to be a study program - could be a volunteer project where she turns up each day and does something specific day in day out.

It's what I would do if I was trying to turn around the low polling and negativity surrounding the Sussexes. Something low key, high value, and slow building.

@wordler - sorry but @Coucous had a great idea. We (couscous and I) might not agree on some things - but you must admit it’s a great idea

They are only financially independent because MM earned millions of dollars in that 2nd rate cable show, (pre marriage) and Harry had a massive inheritance from his mother and from his great grandmother. The current earnings schedule is very smoke and mirrors. Archwell only delivered $50,000 for charities in 2020 (nothing more up to date figure wise) but I suppose it's paying some salaries?

Most of Harry’s money would have gone on the house which needed some work.

Being a star is expensive ‘esthetician, clothes hair, nails, yoga, agents and publicists eat quite quickly into the 500k per year