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Rushingfool · 24/09/2022 13:00

Anyone else think The Times should not be printing extracts from this new book about Royal Courtiers at this time? Incredibly stupid given that H&M are trying to mend fences? I feel really quite cross for everyone involved - William's efforts to build bridges etc, all going to be in vain now. Very naughty.

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myrtleWilson · 25/09/2022 12:11

@Samcro - sorry you're question has gone unanswered - am not sure about everyone mentioned in VL's book but I've googled for you

JK - still on board at Earthshot but now at CI

Sam Cohen - LinkedIn suggests she's just left No10 and prior to that was at Commonwealth Enterprise and Investment Council for 2 years. She remains a deputy chair of the Queens Green Canopy (initiative was due to close down in December but now extended until March 2023 due to HMQ death)

Sara Latham was in charge of Platty Jubes in HMQ office -not sure what happens to that office now

Marnie G is now the Head of Comms at QGC

Coucous · 25/09/2022 12:11

ShamedBySiri · 25/09/2022 11:01

Geriatric might have been used in the past by some, but the more common phrase was "Elderly Primip" (for a late first baby).
But the age of first time mothers has increased significantly in recent years so I don't think anyone really uses that phrase any more. I was an "elderly primip" 24 years ago and don't recall anyone using those words.

Even words around geriatrics are outdated these days though I think some specialists may still be Geriatricians. But in hospital we have a "care of the elderly" unit. I never hear anyone talking about geriatrics---- any more.

I would assume perhaps older Obstetricians may use it, although never seen it myself. I have met some older Drs with terrible bedside manner and outdated practice.

However as people have said here, they have recently been called geriatric in their 30s - a first for me to hear that in modern UK. I am sorry for their experience.
Meghan is not a young mum medically - but my comment was not in any way suggesting that she is medically a young mother and ! I said Angela Levin - a likely OAP - bullying a young mother. To me if you're in your 30s you are young.

Geriatricians usually treat people who are 60+ but if you aren't aging well and have geriatric needs then certainly that could apply to you.
I am just saying Angela is too old to be bullying a young person/mother like Meghan for financial gain. Why does she need the money anyway?

Those who want to get it will.

IrisVersicolor · 25/09/2022 12:11

SallyLockheart · 25/09/2022 11:58

that's rather a leap, isn't it, even for you?

It’s not my leap. OW interview was March 2021, he stepped down in May 2021.

Media rumour was that his departure may have been a condition of reconciliation discussions between H and palace because he was thought rightly or wrongly to have been the source of leaks.

He was 2 years into a job promotion, 7 years into a career with the Sussexes and suddenly he stepped down and left the country.

Dan Wootton himself claimed live on GB News that the source of anti-Meghan stories in the media were coming from Buck Pal staff and royals. (it was posted on Twitter if you want to look for it).

myrtleWilson · 25/09/2022 12:13

your not you're 😤

Samcro · 25/09/2022 12:15

@myrtleWilson thanks

SallyLockheart · 25/09/2022 12:16

Iris. you claimed he had been fired? which job? He left the Cambridge household role to follow his husband abroad on a foreign posting. that is well documented.

Coucous · 25/09/2022 12:22

@Samcro It seems they are still working there and some may have been promoted. Doesn't JK still work for the Cambridges?

Coucous · 25/09/2022 12:27

@notanotheroneagain the people who sneak the stories are given promotions and frankly, it looks like they are acting on command.

  • That's what It looks like to me. Why aren't they being fired unless they are worried they will expose a lot about them?
  • Do you know if Wootton ever sued Byline Investigates for exposing the £4K payments made to his sources at the palace?
Readinginthesun · 25/09/2022 12:27

IrisVersicolor · 25/09/2022 12:11

It’s not my leap. OW interview was March 2021, he stepped down in May 2021.

Media rumour was that his departure may have been a condition of reconciliation discussions between H and palace because he was thought rightly or wrongly to have been the source of leaks.

He was 2 years into a job promotion, 7 years into a career with the Sussexes and suddenly he stepped down and left the country.

Dan Wootton himself claimed live on GB News that the source of anti-Meghan stories in the media were coming from Buck Pal staff and royals. (it was posted on Twitter if you want to look for it).

He left because his husband was moving to a job overseas .

Readinginthesun · 25/09/2022 12:30

His statement :

As a new year begins, a chapter closes for me. After seven years working for The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge at Kensington Palace and The Royal Foundation I am moving to India to join my husband on a diplomatic posting.

Serving as Communications Secretary and then Foundation CEO has been the privilege of my career. We’ve built powerful platforms like Heads Together, The Earthshot Prize, and the Centre for Early Childhood. I’ve travelled to 36 countries and to every corner of the U.K. And I’ve made amazing new friends along the way.

I’ve been so proud to support the unique, optimistic leadership of The Duke and Duchess during a period where we’ve confronted a pandemic, the climate crisis, a seismic shift in our attitudes to mental health, and so much more. I’m grateful to all of our partners and supporters who have believed in our ability to achieve extraordinary things by working together.

Wishing everyone a happy and successful 2022.

BlueRidge · 25/09/2022 12:39

Coucous · 25/09/2022 10:43

@SallyLockheart I can argue that I know enough about this - Meghan would NOT fall within the age range of those considered geriatric ! I can guarantee that no medic would write that in her notes either. Unless perhaps you are her doctor and have written this her notes - if you were I would challenge your expertise and probably report you to the GMC in the process.

This forum is hilarious - what next?

It has been pointed out numerous times that you are wrong here. Are you going to acknowledge this?
I have been disregarding your posts since the outrageous assertions about black slavery earlier in the thread, and these more recent posts tell me I'm right to do so.

You seem to be confusing the fact that because a geriatrician specialises in the treatment of the elderly, the related term cannot apply to relatively young women with regard to pregnancy (as, biologically, anyone over 35 is considered more at risk). It is beginning to change now, and rightly so, but you do not need to be "sorry for our experience" in being referred to in that way (in very recent years). Some of us are a bit tougher than others.

SynchronisedStrimmer · 25/09/2022 12:39

Aha, getting in early with the excuses I see @notanotheroneagain - H&M won’t sue so as “not to give the oxygen of publicity” apparently. What absolute crap. They have proved themselves highly litigious. The only reason for them not to sue is because they don’t want their own (previously officially complained about) poor treatment of staff to be scrutinised.

IrisVersicolor · 25/09/2022 12:48

SallyLockheart · 25/09/2022 12:16

Iris. you claimed he had been fired? which job? He left the Cambridge household role to follow his husband abroad on a foreign posting. that is well documented.

I did not claim he had been fired, I said events suggested he had been fired and that was not even my suggestion.

Politicians are well documented to resign to spend more time with their families.

He may have given up his career to follow his husband, or he may have been pushed and this was the spin.

Liila · 25/09/2022 12:48

You get the feeling the gloves are off after the Queen's death. She clearly had wanted the whole thing silencing as much as possible but it was bound to all come out in the end.

I hope Harry's mh can withstand the inevitable backlash when those who have supported him realise they've been taken for fools.

milti · 25/09/2022 12:55

So pleased this ‘feminist’ has been exposed for the nasty piece of work she is. She and Harry are finished.

SpinningAlwaysSadly · 25/09/2022 12:56

So when Meghan heard the ‘on loan from Chopard’ story being put forward about the earrings, would she have known that it was bullshit?

Roussette · 25/09/2022 13:00

She and Harry are finished

😂
I really don't think so

milti · 25/09/2022 13:09

You’d have to get a life then wouldn’t you ?

Arbesque · 25/09/2022 13:09

Coucous · 25/09/2022 12:11

I would assume perhaps older Obstetricians may use it, although never seen it myself. I have met some older Drs with terrible bedside manner and outdated practice.

However as people have said here, they have recently been called geriatric in their 30s - a first for me to hear that in modern UK. I am sorry for their experience.
Meghan is not a young mum medically - but my comment was not in any way suggesting that she is medically a young mother and ! I said Angela Levin - a likely OAP - bullying a young mother. To me if you're in your 30s you are young.

Geriatricians usually treat people who are 60+ but if you aren't aging well and have geriatric needs then certainly that could apply to you.
I am just saying Angela is too old to be bullying a young person/mother like Meghan for financial gain. Why does she need the money anyway?

Those who want to get it will.

At what age is it acceptable to bully someone?

BlueRidge · 25/09/2022 13:14

What do you mean by "finished?"
If you mean their marriage, then no way. Currently, they look pretty strong and united to me (although what do I know?!) BUT, I also suspect there's possibly an imbalance of power in the relationship. I fear for Harry if the relationship does come to an end (instigated by her, for instance).

If you mean "finished" as in British public opinion, then it's not so clear. I would say that their popularity certainly seems to have waned. There are a number of (loud) ardent Republicans in the media who are revelling in all the discord and a faithful core of Sussex supporters on MN but I think if push came to shove, then many more Brits would back the Royal Family than H&M, who no longer live in the UK and who have stated quite clearly their lives and ambitions lie elsewhere.

Readinginthesun · 25/09/2022 13:15

@Coucous have I missed the reply to my question - what is a grown OAP ?

milti · 25/09/2022 13:17

I hope their marriage lasts forever - they are perfect for each other. Finished as in the whole world now knows what a nasty piece of work she is - if people still want to but into that and defend her that’s up to them. Most people either don’t like them or are indifferent.

Arbesque · 25/09/2022 13:19

If it is verified that this level of bullying was going on in the Palace, from any members of the Royal family, I really hope there will not be people on here defending it.

Bullying is a huge problem in our schools and our workplaces and is never acceptable behaviour.

myrtleWilson · 25/09/2022 13:21

milti · 25/09/2022 13:09

You’d have to get a life then wouldn’t you ?

Am not sure who this is time at milti but it doesn't paint you in a great light tbh

milti · 25/09/2022 13:22

Idgas

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