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RheanaT · 12/09/2022 12:16

I've seen a clip on Instagram where a group of women completely blanked MM when she spoke to them. It was awful to watch.
I feel so sorry for her, she didn't deserve that at all.
I saw another clip where someone had asked her for a hug, she obliged and when they hugged she really held the member of public and closed her eyes, it looked as if she really needed that hug .
No wonder she ran away from the UK

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derxa · 12/09/2022 18:58

Roussette · 12/09/2022 18:54

No one would know about this if it wasn't for the media hanging Meghan out to dry.

Now it's a huge diplomatic incident.

I'd love you to see you criticising Kate for this.

But I didn't need the media. I was watching the live footage. Perhaps Meghan gets a bit over excited at these events. I remember when she started writing messages on bananas. I'm trying to understand

Roussette · 12/09/2022 18:58

What's ridiculous is that my two best friends, both of whom are black have criticized Meghan online and been accused of being racist.

I don't know your friends and have never ever ever accused everyone of being racist. Ever. And I feel for your friends, because that is not fair. But I don't apply blanket labels to anyone. Never have.

I am just responding to a post that says... if a person tells you they are not racist, believe them.

I know first hand in real life, that not to be true.

LondonWolf · 12/09/2022 18:59

Roussette · 12/09/2022 18:56

Because of your post at 18.50 LW

It makes it sound really important and an awful thing to do. No one would know about it if it wasn't for the press poking about to find something to criticise.

It's a nothing. It didn't matter. The walkabout was great and it was good to see.

This post?

I just cannot believe criticising her for this. If Kate kept the flowers, it would be absolutely fine.

No it wouldn't, because it's not what the plan was. Why should Meghan just get to change the carefully planned event and refuse to co-operate when politely reminded or nudged? Why should she have preferential treatment? Why should it be changed to accommodate ONE member of the party's whim?

Where am I making it sound like it was an awful thing to do. I am responding to your assertion that if Kate did it, it would be just fine. I'm rejecting that and explaining why it would be just as ridiculous if Kate was allowed to do it. You're being disingenuous Rousette and as ever framing disagreement as an attack. Fortunately the posts are there for all to see.

onlylarkin · 12/09/2022 19:04

Even the media in the UK says that the news coverage regarding Meghan was racist and unfair.

pressgazette.co.uk/two-third-journalists-uk-media-bigoted-or-racist/

PreparationPreparationPrep · 12/09/2022 19:05

I've just searched for the video you are referring to and found the clip. I don't see her being rude, she is just politely saying she will lay the flowers herself. Maybe if they are asking her the same question 3 times she is just giving the same answer 3 times. "Thank you it's ok I will lay them". It's hardly a criminal offence just another non event for the media to lie about to their readers.

Roussette · 12/09/2022 19:05

LondonWolf · 12/09/2022 18:59

This post?

I just cannot believe criticising her for this. If Kate kept the flowers, it would be absolutely fine.

No it wouldn't, because it's not what the plan was. Why should Meghan just get to change the carefully planned event and refuse to co-operate when politely reminded or nudged? Why should she have preferential treatment? Why should it be changed to accommodate ONE member of the party's whim?

Where am I making it sound like it was an awful thing to do. I am responding to your assertion that if Kate did it, it would be just fine. I'm rejecting that and explaining why it would be just as ridiculous if Kate was allowed to do it. You're being disingenuous Rousette and as ever framing disagreement as an attack. Fortunately the posts are there for all to see.

Yes that post. You are saying Meghan 'got to change the planned event'. Hardly.
One bunch of flowers.

Hardly changing the whole event.

Yes, the posts are there for all to see.

LondonWolf · 12/09/2022 19:06

Yes that post. You are saying Meghan 'got to change the planned event'. Hardly.
One bunch of flowers.
Hardly changing the whole event.

Yes, the posts are there for all to see.

Quote where I said that Meghan got to change the whole event please.

Roussette · 12/09/2022 19:09

LW

Here

"Why should Meghan just get to change the carefully planned event"

onlylarkin · 12/09/2022 19:10

And as if the media isn't grasping hard enough to come up with not newsworthy stories, last night I saw a reporter ask someone what he thought the Queen's dogs were thinking and an article this morning about how the Queen's beekeepers told the bees she had died.

Ohnonevermind · 12/09/2022 19:10

Ive covid and a dreadful migraine so have no interest in using my few operating brain cells to post on this thread. Some posters crowing tney’ve chased racists off the thread

I do notice the usual twisting of the SA cast member by the usual poster - 🥱 it’s a lie, she lied (again) End of story

And the excusing of MM ignoring the script agreed for the walk about. And if anyone criticises her they’re racist. Please. And then ‘if Kate did it….’ Kate is capable of following really simple instructions. What is Meghan’s excuse ?

LondonJax · 12/09/2022 19:11

Roussette · 12/09/2022 18:48

I just cannot believe criticising her for this. If Kate kept the flowers, it would be absolutely fine.

The difference is that Kate wouldn't have kept the flowers. It's that simple.

CallmeAngelina · 12/09/2022 19:15

Re: the flowers, I can kind of see where Meghan was coming from with the flowers, to be honest. I have observed members of the Royal Family being given flowers before (for them, not to lay as a tribute) and it has struck me that it appears a bit curt to take them and then immediately get rid of them by passing them to a member of staff. I KNOW that it's because they would have too many to carry within a short space of time.
Meghan appeared to be making the point that she had been entrusted with the task of laying the flowers on a bystander's behalf and she presumably therefore wanted to carry out that task. On the face of it, that's a nice thing to do.
But, bear in mind also, that the RF are wary of both Harry & Meghan's motives at the moment, and aides may well have been warned to avoid letting either of them, in this case Meghan, set up any media shots that could be used for financial gain at a later date.
But anyway, Harry seems to have stepped in and the flowers were passed over.
And stand down, all! Crisis averted!

LondonWolf · 12/09/2022 19:18

Roussette · 12/09/2022 19:09

LW

Here

"Why should Meghan just get to change the carefully planned event"

You are changing the tenses so that you assert that I said something I did not Grin

You know full well that I was responding to your assertion that Kate would be allowed to do it but not Meghan and that I am asking why anyone should be allowed to, it's right there in the post!

Is this Your Truth? Grin

Never have I been reminded me of the pigeon playing chess analogy than I am at this moment 🐦 ♟.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 12/09/2022 19:19

LondonWolf · 12/09/2022 18:46

What is also obvious from this week's events is that if they had wanted to stay as working royals, the royal family would have accommodated them. They've been accommodated and included this week, and that's after all that they have said.

Indeed! Where is the praise or acknowledgement for the repeated olive branches extended by the BRF towards H&M this week?

Is it really an olive branch or as someone else said just the RF PR machine capitalising on this event to win the BP over. Which ever it is H&M will know the reason and still graciously accepted. But I don't think it
means they have any interest in returning as they are reminded of what they left behind every time they visit.

derxa · 12/09/2022 19:19

Roussette · 12/09/2022 19:09

LW

Here

"Why should Meghan just get to change the carefully planned event"

That 'should' is the conditional tense. It's speculative. It doesn't mean that Meghan did change an event. She would have changed the event if she had gone to lay the flowers. It would have taken attention away from the principal mourners who are William and Harry. It's deeply trivial I agree.

Diverseopinions · 12/09/2022 19:22

Is there surely an issue of security and the danger of something poisonous or a mini explosive device being inside the bunch?

Wouldn't some of these aides be trained in counter terrorism? Wouldn't they take the flowers, 'as if to lay them for the royal' and then feel them for anything noxious. They might do more testing then that. There might be a sniffer dog nearby, or a chemical test.

Obviously, and I haven't been reading too much James Bond, but isn't this what men in suits and security do, at events, where most of the family are, and fairly uniquely, gathered cheek by jowel in one place? Isn't this why walk abouts need to be choreographed, and moves stuck to?

LondonWolf · 12/09/2022 19:23

Diverseopinions · 12/09/2022 19:22

Is there surely an issue of security and the danger of something poisonous or a mini explosive device being inside the bunch?

Wouldn't some of these aides be trained in counter terrorism? Wouldn't they take the flowers, 'as if to lay them for the royal' and then feel them for anything noxious. They might do more testing then that. There might be a sniffer dog nearby, or a chemical test.

Obviously, and I haven't been reading too much James Bond, but isn't this what men in suits and security do, at events, where most of the family are, and fairly uniquely, gathered cheek by jowel in one place? Isn't this why walk abouts need to be choreographed, and moves stuck to?

Good points.

Serenster · 12/09/2022 19:23

Shock horror, an aide said I will take the flowers, and she said no, don't worry type thing

I said on the thread that got zapped that Meghan looked quite nervous at the event (understandably) and that I imagine it took a lot of courage to face the crowd when she was probably unsure of their reaction. I thought she did look a little annoyed with William’s communications director, actually (he wasn’t just a flunky, he’s a senior employee). But, she’s stressed, so I give her a pass.

It is interesting however that one of the things people said when working for Meghan was that she would listen to suggestions, and then do what she wanted to do nonetheless. That was evident here, in microcosm - she said no twice to the staff when she presumably must have known they are trying to be helpful, and only handed the flowers over when Harry intervened.

PreparationPreparationPrep · 12/09/2022 19:26

Diverseopinions · 12/09/2022 19:22

Is there surely an issue of security and the danger of something poisonous or a mini explosive device being inside the bunch?

Wouldn't some of these aides be trained in counter terrorism? Wouldn't they take the flowers, 'as if to lay them for the royal' and then feel them for anything noxious. They might do more testing then that. There might be a sniffer dog nearby, or a chemical test.

Obviously, and I haven't been reading too much James Bond, but isn't this what men in suits and security do, at events, where most of the family are, and fairly uniquely, gathered cheek by jowel in one place? Isn't this why walk abouts need to be choreographed, and moves stuck to?

Could be - I just thought it was so that one hand was free for shaking and the other for collecting the flowers. I doubt a royal aide could spot a poison dart hidden amongst a bunch of chrysanthemums but then again I have no idea of what they are trained for.

phishy · 12/09/2022 19:28

Serenster · 12/09/2022 19:23

Shock horror, an aide said I will take the flowers, and she said no, don't worry type thing

I said on the thread that got zapped that Meghan looked quite nervous at the event (understandably) and that I imagine it took a lot of courage to face the crowd when she was probably unsure of their reaction. I thought she did look a little annoyed with William’s communications director, actually (he wasn’t just a flunky, he’s a senior employee). But, she’s stressed, so I give her a pass.

It is interesting however that one of the things people said when working for Meghan was that she would listen to suggestions, and then do what she wanted to do nonetheless. That was evident here, in microcosm - she said no twice to the staff when she presumably must have known they are trying to be helpful, and only handed the flowers over when Harry intervened.

I thought she did look a little annoyed with William’s communications director

Have another look at Meghan's body language when she declines the offer to take the flowers. She was really nice about it.

she said no twice to the staff when she presumably must have known they are trying to be helpful, and only handed the flowers over when Harry intervened.

Or more likely because she received a second big bunch of flowers and could not carry them all.

What an uncharitable lot you all are. Shane on you.

Roussette · 12/09/2022 19:30

LondonWolf · 12/09/2022 19:18

You are changing the tenses so that you assert that I said something I did not Grin

You know full well that I was responding to your assertion that Kate would be allowed to do it but not Meghan and that I am asking why anyone should be allowed to, it's right there in the post!

Is this Your Truth? Grin

Never have I been reminded me of the pigeon playing chess analogy than I am at this moment 🐦 ♟.

I am repeating what you posted!

I haven't changed it

Shall we give up on this now?

Thisisnotalife · 12/09/2022 19:30

Kudos to Meghan for braving it out and facing the public. This woman has cojones. She must really love Harry!

Peaceandcalm · 12/09/2022 19:30

To those who take the time to criticise the Duchess of Sussex at every given opportunity:

As you salivate at your computer screens, deluding yourselves that your opinions have an impact on the life of the Duchess, try to remember these facts:

• She is a member of the British royal family
• She has the love of a good man (a prince, no less) who has demonstrated his willingness to prioritise her happiness
• Her father-in-law (the current monarch) publicly expressed love for her
• She is independently wealthy
• She has adorable children whom she loves – and who incidentally are now entitled to use the titles, HRH Prince and Princess.
• She has a loyal group of friends (including high profile figures)
• She garners considerable global interest (more than any other member of the royal family) – giving her a platform to achieve any objective she sets: whether it be to influence, to secure business deals or to promote charities
• She is not afraid to take on her antagonists - and win!

Given all of that, I really don’t see why she would care about the disapproving sentiment of a small, insignificant group of people unable to discern fact from fiction. The Duchess of Sussex continues to win despite your protests – because she is living the life that she wishes to live. Take the time to do the same. Then perhaps you would be less invested in whether or not she holds on to flowers.

LondonWolf · 12/09/2022 19:31

Or more likely because she received a second big bunch of flowers and could not carry them all.

No there is footage. She is arguing with the second aide and not wanting to hand them over and that is when Harry intervenes.

Lostinabba · 12/09/2022 19:32

Of course they had to tell the Queen's bees she'd died, they are very sensitive.

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