A positive and non-bashing thread about Meghan and Harry

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

I have rejoined Mumsnet after leaving a few times. The first time I left was because I was concerned about the coverage and uncomfortable undertone of the commentary on Meghan Markle after the engagement was announced, before she had said a word, and before she had married into the Royal Family.

I came back around the time she and Harry left the UK, to be stunned by the pages and pages upon pages of virulent threads. At that time Mumsnet actually banned all threads about Meghan, it had become so toxic.

They have now made their lives in Montecito, but still the virulence continues. Yes, she speaks in a mix of therapy plus corporate gobbledegook, yes, she is occasionally vapid and irritating.

But who is she actually harming that she deserves all this virulence?

Yesterday, when the new UK Prime Minister was elected, the coverage in the Super Tory Daily Mail was all about a seven minute speech to a bunch of young people. Article after article after article. Body language experts. Counting the number of times she said "I" in a speech in which she sought to inspire young people by attempting to relate to them. Before that, 18 articles were devoted to the first podcast by the Daily Mail alone. 18!

Same with her podcasts. The series is about HER and HER take on labels, and she discusses HER take with HER guests.

It's all very anodyne, even vanilla. It does not deserve any of the vitriol sent her way.

SO:

As the next twelve weeks are going to be wall to wall Meghan, and the Meghan haters and detractors have several threads here that fill up rapidly with bile, scorn and mockery, I have started this thread, reminiscent of previous " positive" threads, to talk about what some of us like, enjoy, find amusing and even (gasp) admire, in the next few Meghan rich weeks.

If you don't have anything positive to say, that's okay, you can keep to the existing threads.

Looking forward to a bile-free discussion of everything Meghan!

No Roussette, of course not. And I think your comment is intentionally disingenuous there - I don’t believe you think that I really think that at all.

When the Sussexes are out and about doing activities the coverage is obviously a result of that. But when they are not actually doing anything in public, there’s still a large number of stories about them in all sorts of different publications. And the stories about them are interesting topics - generally they underscore their golden lifestyle, their generally fame and popularity, their linkages to the royal family, their interest in key causes, etc etc. All the kind of lines and stories that you pay your PR agencies to seed for you.

I guess they could simply choose not to publish, but it's hard not to wonder what H&M would then do to ensure being back in the spotlight

H&M do not talk to named sections of the press. They pick up crumbs from everyone. Those not on the ban list get their press release and the rags tag on. They even go out and ask, remember when Royah went all the way out to ask if we would see Archie for his birthday. Why do you think they have no insider info on Montecito, Archewell and Doria. But have a lot from royal sources.

BM said they are irrelevant, when they made the announcement that they will not be interacting with the rags. They boycotted H&M for a whole 3 days. Other international media carried on reporting on H&M, and the BM could not miss out on the money train, so they came back after their strike have been cashing in ever since.🙂

I detest most of the people you mention.

@notanotheroneagain
You know , on another thread one of the anti Meghan posters suggested that some people 'defending' her were paid PR / bots .

Yet the Meghan haters / pro royals ( and it is this particular group I'm referring to ) have started and maintained numerous threads .

I think it was you @notanotheroneagain who pointed out that discrediting M and H must be part of the royals smear campaign to try to minimise the damage from the truth bombs .

Please don’t be bullied off . Your posts are probably the most balanced on these threads .

I do believe that the RF are protecting themselves, why allow such a concentrated smear on one of their own while Andrew is being protected (even case paid for?). Extremely serious issues like cash for access, Kremlin etc whizz by the news within days. There was a whole documentary on tv about prince Michael and cash for access, don't think much time was even spent directing it.

Discrediting H&M is a win win for hiding RF faults and Torie government as well as lots of money made by press. That is your holy trinity 😂
These entities are purely self serving at the expense of our good. Negativity, cultural wars and conflict are created for profit. As I stated nobody's perfect, but these entities seem to have no balance with the good they put out, even worse, they attack others good actions.

Funny how those who defend H&M are PR / Bots, when those who are anti H&M go around trying to squash any good thing that will be said about them, while trying to big up the RF and blocking any criticism of the RF are not 🙄

*dissecting

Sushine Sachs are paid to ensure coverage in the media. That’s their job.

The German press didn’t give a flying fuck about the Sussex’s being there. They’re not important at all in Germany.

How amusing. My post which merely repeated the words notanotheroneagain said about me in her post today at 10:38am (upthread) has been deleted.

I presume that means those words count as personal abuse? I’m happy to leave them there so readers can see the abuse notanotheroneagain aimed at me….

Oh - someone else must have reported notanotheroneagain‘s post! I didn’t 😀

@Serenster

I love your posts. They’re informative and balanced.

Hi there,
Can we call for a bit of calm on this thread? If there are concerns re bots or trolls please do bring them to us rather than make accusations on the thread. Rest assured that if we thought there were bots we would ban on sight.

what a shame that a positive thread gets hi jacked, shame.

On another thread I was told that speakers were paid for their attendance? Also I would expect a certain level of due diligence if representating a Charity. But appreciate you can't be expected to catch everything.

Oh and I wasnt aware that posters now get to choose who post on threads.

On another thread I was told that speakers were paid for their attendance?

Often people ask for an attendance fee to appear at a charitable event. Others will just ask for their expenses to be paid. Still others will ask for nothing at all. It is fascinating finding out who falls into which category (if you know anyone who works in the large charity sector, they all have stories about this!)

Thanks @Serenster I don't know anyone who works at a high level in charities hence all the questions.

But I have heard that there are a lot of famous people who give their time freely. Which I am sure Meghan and Harry do too before I am jumped on!

Serenster I believe that, if someone copies an already-zapped piece, the MNHQ message usually reflects this - as in "Quotes deleted post"

This didn't happen on yours and obviously I don't know why not, but then I no longer read notanotherone's posts

Exactly

Detractors of H&M just cannot bear anything positive, pleasant or nice said about them. Even if it is just waffle, it just has to be discredited or they can't cope.

What a shame indeed.

I see that every other country has no qualms with protecting H as a natural cause.

A shame his own country that he is prince for, and served in the army needs him to go justify himself in court , despite reported threats seem to come from here.

I see that every other country has no qualms with protecting H as a natural cause

I believe that the Sussexes paid for their security in Germany if that is what you are referring to

Who told you that, the DM ?
I seem to have seen proper state police over there.

Anyway, they must fight to pay for it over here.

As a thread cleanse, here is Laura from Germany speaking about their support for H&M.

twitter.com/ArchLiliHazMeg/status/1567266381468499969