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susan12345678 · 31/08/2022 20:51

Just to continue the discussion

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Gilmorehill · 02/09/2022 23:49

What is the “one lie”? This thread moves so fast I’m not sure.

TrashyPanda · 02/09/2022 23:52

And I believe he said it because as I said - I come from that culture

really?

Even though he said he has no recollection of saying that and the whole conversation was filmed and proves he did not say that?

why do you doubt this man? You are basically calling him a liar.

why do you not believe the factual evidence?

i may have some insight into members of my culture (which is not British) but that does not give me the power of mind reading my peers.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/09/2022 23:58

On tape (Lebo) is heard saying “'It’s an honour to meet you. Everyone in South Africa’s heard of Meghan Markle’”

Somehow I'd missed that what was actually said had been captured on tape - so if this is right, it follows that Meghan made up what was allegedly said to her

Or in other words another lie

TrashyPanda · 02/09/2022 23:59

The point being I don’t class that date as my marriage date - I consider my marriage the date of my wedding and also state it as such

but if you had to put the date of marriage on an official form, where yiu knew the objective evidence (registration of said marriage) would show the legal date, surely you would put the actual date?

Because then it isn’t about what you might consider, it’s about the actual, factual date. And you know there is a difference

skullbabe · 03/09/2022 00:01

Excellent article - it is a difficult line for famous people to walk especially if they are civically minded and discussion is always welcome of how they can leverage things. It’s difficult for them - as some, like Beyoncé who co-opts a lot of racial awareness and feminism in her art, gets accused of using these very serious topics for self promotion with no substance. Meanwhile, it transpires that she in particular has been donating both her time and money to these causes behind the scenes - and when it comes out, she then is accused of self promotion. It’s a continuing conundrum and the article adds to the discourse - I think it is a little uncharitable to Meghan but again to each their own.

I think the problem withMeghan and Harry as mentioned above is that they need to make money (they can’t go quietly into the night). I forget the later I was chatting to but Meghan may need to hustle as Harry doesn’t quite have the skill set to make the money yet. This will always be in tension with their charitable enterprises.

Like or not Harry, as the queen’s grandson, is a significant security risk and will always need protection. He cannot live in a simple house and neighbourhood - he needs extensive security input which means that he needs isolation, safe rooms and security with arms. This costs and will do for the rest of his and his children’s lives - his grandchildren might be relatively safe.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/09/2022 00:03

What is the “one lie”? This thread moves so fast I’m not sure

The claim that she didn't collaborate in Finding Feeedom, for which she had to apologise to the court because she'd included it in submissions

Then there's "my passport was taken away" - which is odd given the number of overseas visits she made - the "marriage" three days before the wedding, and now the Mandela thing

StartupRepair · 03/09/2022 00:05

Talking of lies, it's worth looking at the engagement interview. 'kates amazing, Thomas Markle is amazing, I'm not giving up anything to join the family, I never googled Harry.'

Housewife2010 · 03/09/2022 00:05

cyclamenqueen · 02/09/2022 23:41

Actually he went out with both of them, the family thought Jane more suitable but she said no. Sarah was never going to be realistic for various reasons . Also Diana had her own family money as well as her divorce settlement .

Actually he only went out with Sarah. Diana did have some family money but the bulk of her money came from her divorce settlement.

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:07

Gilmorehill · 02/09/2022 23:49

What is the “one lie”? This thread moves so fast I’m not sure.

There are quite a few.

how about when she said she paid for her own college tuition?
only to have Thomas Markle produce bank statements, receipts etc showing he paid for it.

or that she didn’t know who Prince Harry was, prior to meeting him.
cos she lived in the back of beyond, with no access to any sort of news media (tv, radio, newspapers, Google etc) and had no social media. Oh no, wait a minute, she lived in LA growing up and had her own SM account, The Tig.

skullbabe · 03/09/2022 00:10

TrashyPanda · 02/09/2022 23:52

And I believe he said it because as I said - I come from that culture

really?

Even though he said he has no recollection of saying that and the whole conversation was filmed and proves he did not say that?

why do you doubt this man? You are basically calling him a liar.

why do you not believe the factual evidence?

i may have some insight into members of my culture (which is not British) but that does not give me the power of mind reading my peers.

@TrashyPanda have you watched the video?

i believe I have fallen into the same trap as everyone - we don’t know who said this to her. We presume it was Lebo but again who is to know. And why would your first inclination to state that she was lying? We’ve established that she lied once in her court case - what others has she told?

skullbabe · 03/09/2022 00:11

TrashyPanda · 02/09/2022 23:59

The point being I don’t class that date as my marriage date - I consider my marriage the date of my wedding and also state it as such

but if you had to put the date of marriage on an official form, where yiu knew the objective evidence (registration of said marriage) would show the legal date, surely you would put the actual date?

Because then it isn’t about what you might consider, it’s about the actual, factual date. And you know there is a difference

Nope date of my wedding but now realise that perhaps shouldn’t do that

But am I maliciously lying when I do this?

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:17

what others has she told?

see the posts above yours and earlier in the thread.

interestingly, the only SA cast member (distinctly different from composer) Dr John Kani, wasnt at the premier, and has said the wedding wasn’t of any interest to South African people

“It is baffling me. I am the only South African in the cast. I play Rafiki, Seth Rogen plays Pumbaa, Donald Glover plays Simba and Beyoncé plays Nala. I cannot even tell you now what month she married or what year. In my memory, nobody would have known when she got married, when or what. We had no South African link to the wedding or to her marrying Harry. I am truly surprised by this. For me it is a non-event, the whole thing”

Isaidnoalready · 03/09/2022 00:17

notanotheroneagain · 31/08/2022 21:19

So are accusations of abuse. You don't ask the victim to produce evidence in a video do you?

If you want them arrested you do you get physically examined on camera so Dr's can review the footage and your interview is on camera too

skullbabe · 03/09/2022 00:17

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:07

There are quite a few.

how about when she said she paid for her own college tuition?
only to have Thomas Markle produce bank statements, receipts etc showing he paid for it.

or that she didn’t know who Prince Harry was, prior to meeting him.
cos she lived in the back of beyond, with no access to any sort of news media (tv, radio, newspapers, Google etc) and had no social media. Oh no, wait a minute, she lived in LA growing up and had her own SM account, The Tig.

But she did pay for her college tuition - she had some scholarships, some work study (to help her pay for her college tuition) and the rest was covered by both her parents with her dad taking up the part he paid with loans. It’s churlish to say she didn’t pay for any of her own college when it’s obvious that she did.

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:18

But am I maliciously lying when I do this?

Putting wrong information on an official form - you are providing false evidence.

notanotheroneagain · 03/09/2022 00:23

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:07

There are quite a few.

how about when she said she paid for her own college tuition?
only to have Thomas Markle produce bank statements, receipts etc showing he paid for it.

or that she didn’t know who Prince Harry was, prior to meeting him.
cos she lived in the back of beyond, with no access to any sort of news media (tv, radio, newspapers, Google etc) and had no social media. Oh no, wait a minute, she lived in LA growing up and had her own SM account, The Tig.

Thomas produced receipts of payment? Oh I missed that. Please do link that.

Last I checked he did pay for some of her senior school fees, but I believe at some stage at uni, he squandered his money on some dodgy diamond business.

So would like to see his receipts that he paid for all of MM uni fees and living etc.

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:29

Here is what MM said in her speech at the university of the South Pacific in 2018

“It was through scholarships, financial aid programs, and work-study where my earnings from a job on campus went directly toward my tuition, that I was able to attend university. And, without question, it was worth every effort.”

no mention of parental help. In a written speech, so not off the cuff. But written to give the very definite impression that she had no other help than the sources mentioned.

skullbabe · 03/09/2022 00:30

or that she didn’t know who Prince Harry was, prior to meeting him.
cos she lived in the back of beyond, with no access to any sort of news media (tv, radio, newspapers, Google etc) and had no social media. Oh no, wait a minute, she lived in LA growing up and had her own SM account, The Tig.

I listen to a fair bit of US media - I find it fascinating how little the Royal family feature in the common discourse in the US. I’ve bristled listening to their conversations about the people I seem to have known my whole life as some have no real understanding of the royal family. And this is what Meghan said - not that she didn’t know who Harry was - she didn’t know just how much of a big deal Harry was.

But again this may be lie number 2 - Meghan was an Anglophile and a royal watcher so…

so….court case and not knowing how significant Harry was

next lie?

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:31

notanotheroneagain · 03/09/2022 00:23

Thomas produced receipts of payment? Oh I missed that. Please do link that.

Last I checked he did pay for some of her senior school fees, but I believe at some stage at uni, he squandered his money on some dodgy diamond business.

So would like to see his receipts that he paid for all of MM uni fees and living etc.

Meghans own lawyers admitted he paid:

A filing by Meghan's lawyers last week read: "Mr Markle did not pay for all of [Meghan's] college tuition. [Meghan's] mother also contributed towards her university costs

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:34

There are so many. Just have a read of the thread.
Here’s a quick recap of the latest:

The claim that she didn't collaborate in Finding Feeedom, for which she had to apologise to the court because she'd included it in submissions
college tuition
wedding that wasnt
SA cast member that wasn’t there comparing her to NM.

skullbabe · 03/09/2022 00:36

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:18

But am I maliciously lying when I do this?

Putting wrong information on an official form - you are providing false evidence.

Sure and after this discussion will need to go through my stuff and amend with legal advice - but again I ask you - is my stating I got married at a different date malicious even though it’s now obvious that there is an issue? Do you think I was and am lying? Do you think I think I got married on a certain date because it meant more to me than the other date? Do you not understand why Meghan and Harry would feel this way?

skullbabe · 03/09/2022 00:38

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:31

Meghans own lawyers admitted he paid:

A filing by Meghan's lawyers last week read: "Mr Markle did not pay for all of [Meghan's] college tuition. [Meghan's] mother also contributed towards her university costs

But not all - so she paid for her college fees

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:42

In my former job, we would have rejected an application that gave incorrect information.

We wouldn’t have made a judgement about why the wrong information was given. That wasn’t of any relevance.

MarshaMelrose · 03/09/2022 00:43

Didn't she say that she knew nothing about Diana but she kept a book about her on her coffee table? At least that's what a friend said.

Didn't she say that there were a few racist conversations with Harry (she was never present) when she was pregnant but Harry said it was one conversation before they were married?

Although I suppose it fits the Meghan is misunderstood thesis if we believe Harry lied about the conversation. Like Lebo M. And her friend. Poor truthful Meghan surrounded by all these liars! 😄

skullbabe · 03/09/2022 00:45

TrashyPanda · 03/09/2022 00:34

There are so many. Just have a read of the thread.
Here’s a quick recap of the latest:

The claim that she didn't collaborate in Finding Feeedom, for which she had to apologise to the court because she'd included it in submissions
college tuition
wedding that wasnt
SA cast member that wasn’t there comparing her to NM.

Only one in that list is a lie

The rest are not lies no matter how many times you claim they are

I even found another one for you - not knowing Harry before her blind date

So 2 confirmed lies

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