More Of Meghan’s Archwell podcasts…

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Just to continue the discussion

I get the feeling MM thinks she was pushed back to ‘work’ too soon by the cruel institution of the RF. I think she was resentful of the SA tour for that reason. However being an American, she should have been well aware she is not the only woman in the world who has returned to work when her baby was very small. Maternity leave is terrible in the US.

The thing is she has a nanny and staff! She wasn’t an ordinary woman . It was a brief time with lots of time off before and afterwards. If she’d been an actress what choices would she have had then?

So yes, H&M have to clear their names, as they must have a good reputation in order to function in the charity world.

Do you think the transfer of charitable donations into a private limited company controlled by Harry with limited transparency and beyond the scrutiny of the UK charity commission damages that reputation in any way?

I happen to know a narcissist in a flat management company/share of freehold setting and it's been a nightmare.
It started very well with this new owner offering to take on tedious jobs that nobody wanted to do, she seemed keen, competent, helpful and hard working.
As it turned out, the hard work was only to create an obligation so we would approve works or improvements that benefited mainly herself but of course dressed up as "for the common good" and we "owed her a favour". The owing seemed to stretch forever.
The lease and the company articles were to be ignored or followed to the letter depending on what she wanted on a particular day.
Her expertise was non existent to the point we started to laugh behind her back but quickly stopped as she was frittering communal funds on embellishments and ignoring leaky pipes and structural issues.
She had a lot of unrealistic expectations such as using space allocated to other flats and sulked when denied.
She started a smear campaign against the owner of one of the flats whose only fault was not to consult her about remedial work going on inside his own flat.
It came to a point where we were afraid of contacting her in case whatever we had to say displeased her and unleashed a new smear campaign or sanctimonious emails from her sidekick. She didn't dirty her hands, always got the sidekick to do her bidding or jump to her defence when she went too far.
Eventually she crossed the line so we got our pitchforks out and stripped her of power. Of course the sidekick was quick in accusing the rest of us of bullying the sainted, victimised woman but our strategy worked and we rarely heard from her after that while before it was verbose "urgent" emails every week.
Thankfully she's now selling her flat but she leaves a trail of destruction behind her for someone else to sort out.

Obviously I don't know MM but I can't help noticing a similar MO only on a much bigger scale.

Apologies for derailing, back to lurking :-)

I would say so the millions who listened to the podcast and are keeping them at no1, are a platform.

why do people swing all the way round to the worst interpretation?

because of her relentless agenda of ME ME ME

because her many lies mean that people do not trust her

This thread is full of stereotyping of MM.
(btw, you cannot compare her to trump, you sound ridiculous, so forget that narrative)
The more you repeat the labels, the more the plebs suck it up and take it as fact (someone was adamant that they wanted privacy and go live a quiet life in the middle of nowhere? - they never said any such thing) I am surprised (but not).

They will drag us into the next century

i am unaware of anything they have done that indicates they are so powerful, or that they have enough support to do any such thing.

I don't think it's helpful to nitpick MM and try to bring her down. She has not done anything wrong

I don’t think it’s helpful to deny her many lies. She demonstrates that we cannot trust what she says by her lies.

They need to make money for a living and keep on influencing
Harry has many millions. He does not need to make money for a living.
saying they need to keep on influencing suggests that their influence has achieved tangible positive results. But they haven’t.

I would say one of the strangest things is that H&M are acknowledging 'feelings'.

This is at the base of decisions, surely.

People on here making derisions and labels on MM purely on feeling. 'I don't trust her, I saw how she looked/ communicated/ she is a liar etc. All based on feelings.

What H&M are saying is that you have to take feelings into consideration. It is the make up of everyone really.

People feel and you always have to take that into consideration.

Personally, I think they know all this, and while they will correct what is out there, they most probably know it's all about feelings.
In general, I think they are the tactile type and all about feelings, but at least they are upright that this is all most of us are?

I think she was very unhappy during her pregnancy and postpartum. They got pregnant too quickly (probably because of her age) - she had no time to really get to know the ins and outs of the job, no time to just enjoy the change of status before everything changing with a baby.

I bet she'd always imagined a very different type of pregnancy - lots of shopping and hanging out with friends, as a celebrity probably planning a Hello-type photoshoot, lots of freebies sent from companies and fashion houses for her and the baby. A California celebrity type of pregnancy.

Very different from what she got - lots of protocol and rules, horrible press from the tabloids picking at her, no freebies, all her friends in other countries, work engagements mostly boring and stuffy UK things, royal wives (at least the senior ones) expected to disappear and be discrete for maternity leave and after the birth. She wanted to do exclusive interviews with Oprah and Gayle on the birth and on the first year of marriage and was told no.

In addition she and Harry had experienced all those amazing crowds turning up for them wherever they went in the beginning and this is where as an American and a minor celebrity prior to marriage she mistook all that cheering and goodwill for the popularity of Harry and her alone, whereas the crowds come for both the royal family and the novelty of a new glamourous member. And I think her American publicists got this wrong too. They all assumed that Harry and Meghan would be able to take that popularity and use it for commercial gain, and the royal family needed them so much that they would agree to the half in half out royalty model that they proposed in their exit statement.

I think they still could have translated what they had to work with into a decent life in America if they had accepted that they weren't going to be able to have the half-royal life they asked for - but it seems like they are BOTH still so angry at being told no to that, that they can't stop this complaining and moaning cycle.

It's turning into a very toxic dynamic - which is very car-crash-worthy for all us rubberneckers but not really doing any of the principles involved any good.

People on here making derisions and labels on MM purely on feeling. 'I don't trust her, I saw how she looked/ communicated/ she is a liar etc. All based on feelings

She is a proven liar.

See the 'secret marriage three days before the obscene bloated circus for the peasants' claims broadcast globally even the weak, ineffectual Welby had to refute.

@TrashyPanda
Harry has many millions. He does not need to make money for a living.
saying they need to keep on influencing suggests that their influence has achieved tangible positive results. But they haven’t.

They are hemorrhaging money with that big property and their security needs - Their lifestyle probably costs $10 million a year to maintain. For all the talk about the Netflix and Spotify deals, no one knows the numbers for sure and we don't know if those numbers include the funds needed to make the content - it's not going to be all profit.

That's one of the main reasons Harry wants the special protected status back so that someone else is picking up the bill for the security.

No. Truth trumps feelings everyday. In the same way that a man who “feels” he is a woman is not a woman. The facts of biology and sex trumps feelings every single time.

it has been proven that Meghan tells lies and is dishonest. Full stop. Fact. No amount of feelings can disguise that and the rules of law and life has to work on fact not feelings

Exactly.

You can say it 100 times. Meghan is not a 'proven liar'.

It may influence some. Not most people, tbh.

Meghan managed to get a baby shower in New York, so I'm not sure where protocol came into place here, yet she said they took her passport from her.

I will just drop this here.

Yes, I'm anti racist, did you figure that out.

Based on other actresses maternity leaves - she indeed would have been expected to return at 3 to 5 months. The difference being what would be expected of the job so to speak - I would say, being royal, as evidenced by the opinion in this very thread, is more difficult and onerous than acting and fraught with landmines as again evidenced by the affront caused to many by Meghan asserting she was struggling whilst in SA.

Separate from how much sympathy and empathy you have for how you perceive she has been treated by others, do you have any criticisms about Meghan's behaviour, choice of words, actions etc?

I mean, I'm a big Kate fan but I can happily acknowledge all the times I think she's got something wrong, whether a newbie mistake or a tone-deaf instance etc.

They did have a ceremony on their own before the wedding - was it legal? No. Did they consider themselves married on that date though?Yes.

I got married abroad - we got our licence 3 days before our wedding. I still class my wedding date as the date I was married even though technically I was married three days before. No one in their right mind would be frothing at the mouth arguing that I’m lying about my wedding date or my memories of that time and yet with Meghan…….

What other lies has Meghan told?

I’m curious - what lies allow for you to treat Meghan as a someone who does not struggle with very human emotions?

I certainly do - she really needed more “how different are the British to the US” training - it’s really interesting to hear from people from the states who have settled here about minor differences and perspectives which can change peoples interactions. A lot of her missteps seem to be this lost in translation issue that she keeps on having.

I think that the podcast wasn’t the best - as other posters have said, she’s not a natural interviewer - I think television is her best medium - a documentary on the same podcast topics with her providing voiceovers?

I also think she cares too much - she keeps trying to get people to like her (and then manages to make it worse 🤣 - I believe her Mandela anecdote but repeating git wasn’t a great choice) but won’t accept that many people just cannot bring themselves to even think about her as human with human motivations and concerns as opposed to a pantomime villain.

Meghan managed to get a baby shower in New York, so I'm not sure where protocol came into place here, yet she said they took her passport from her.

She flew over to New York for the day with Archie to see Serena Williams play tennis two weeks before going to South Africa. I guess she needed her passport there too. Not sure how discrete that was either.

"I got married abroad - we got our licence 3 days before our wedding."

Well, there it is. Your legal ceremony was at that point.
Meghan & Harry's was not, as verified by the Archbishop of Canterbury. She can wish or pretend all she likes but it doesn't change the material facts.
And she must be pretty tone-deaf if she can't see how foolish her disparaging remarks about the "spectacle for the world made all the people who cheered them at their wedding feel. Either that, or she doesn't give a shit.