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susan12345678 · 31/08/2022 20:51

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AlexandriasWindmill · 01/09/2022 13:12

Two perfect examples above - no-one mentioned institutional racism. The discussion was about a specific accusation. It's similar to the dead cat technique. Look at this here! And not over there with the topic you were actually talking about.
Sealioning and grey rocks.

StartupRepair · 01/09/2022 13:15

I think she was accusing the papers' readers of using the N word. The UK ublic, in fact. This they didn't deserve to see a photo of Archie. until CBS had

SilverLiningPlaybook · 01/09/2022 13:19

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/09/2022 11:19

Good luck with that, Silver. I very much agree that things could have been taken more steadily and said from the start that it was all a bit rushed, but am not sure trying to "make" Meghan do anything would have ended well

I also haven't the least doubt that the everyone's-a-racist crowd would have insisted she was being "kept out of sight because of her race"

Very true.

Festoonlights · 01/09/2022 13:23

StartupRepair · 01/09/2022 13:15

I think she was accusing the papers' readers of using the N word. The UK ublic, in fact. This they didn't deserve to see a photo of Archie. until CBS had

I haven’t heard that word used in over thirty odd years. Thank goodness. It just isn’t true

Arucanafeather · 01/09/2022 13:25

AlexandriasWindmill · 01/09/2022 13:07

Well yy but the 'argument' is the point for them because if these threads were allowed to progress like every other Royal thread then generally most people agree about the RF, the threads fizzle out. No drama. Nothing in trending. The RF are treated as the irrelevancies they are. Same with the celeb threads. The UK is singularly unimpressed with it all, especially the MN demographic.

But Sunshine Sach's strategy for MM and H seems to be to generate contention and arguments. As a PP said, they work on the basis that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Creating a duality, right vs wrong narrative is the way to keep their clients in the media. To a certain extent they're right but it has a cost. What price integrity, facts, truth, and realism? For the posters who appear at the softest whisper of H and MM, their role is to argue and deliberately misinterpret and spread disinformation. There's a German or Russian word for it - but I can't remember it. It's a recognised propaganda technique. The confusion and the argument - is the aim. You see it in threads in other areas on MN too. Always areas where the UK in general has a different view from the US. Always areas where that difference comes from our different history and culture - which the social media posters don't understand or value. And it's always topics that are politics adjacent. There's an interesting thesis to be written on it.

I agree. It comes across that way to me too.

Roussette · 01/09/2022 13:32

Farmageddon · 01/09/2022 12:04

Crossed wires? How very Meghan of you. I would call it deflection and ignoring any point that doesn't fit your narrative.

And if you think there isn't criticism of Fergie and Andrew on MN you need to look harder.

There's no need to be so snippy. I apologise for missing the point.

There is very little about SF or PA on MN. Bear in mind I've started endless threads on PA and they get very little traffic and never fill. So I don't need to "look harder" thanks

Serenster · 01/09/2022 13:33

StartupRepair · 01/09/2022 13:15

I think she was accusing the papers' readers of using the N word. The UK ublic, in fact. This they didn't deserve to see a photo of Archie. until CBS had

If that is what she meant, then I am I guess pleased for Meghan that she is confident that no-one in the US would use that word to describe her children? Personally I think her confidence is misplaced, though. (I also think she was referring to the Royal Rota when she said that, not the general readers),

Farmageddon · 01/09/2022 13:36

StartupRepair · 01/09/2022 13:15

I think she was accusing the papers' readers of using the N word. The UK ublic, in fact. This they didn't deserve to see a photo of Archie. until CBS had

If that's the case, does she really expect us to believe that the UK is any more racist than the US?

lllllllllll · 01/09/2022 13:40

Lostinabba · 01/09/2022 10:02

I can understand people feeling there is a campaign against her in the press.

But the Cut interview was signed off by her. She either has awful PR or doesn't listen to them.
The photos were stunning, she is very beautiful.

How do you know that Meghan signed it off? I’d be surprised if she did!

Ohnonevermind · 01/09/2022 13:40

Ive just been listening to Jesus Christ Gethsemene, when Meghan the Musical comes out, I’ll expect something similar 🤣

LadyShatterly · 01/09/2022 13:41

I think that the Andrew threads get less traction as no matter what views people have on his legal troubles, whether criminal or civil or whatever, everyone (except the mother of his children and his actual children) agrees he is a complete cunt.

And they (“they”) have fully prevented him (muzzled, thank God!) from directly speaking to any public media outlet since that gobsmacking interview. Bet he’d love to try it again though. he’s simply not allowed to say “poor me!” In public. But if he did! Wow. Spoilt little royal whining to the public about how his own idiocy made him look extremely stupid, naive, entitled and out of touch. No thanks.

Serenster · 01/09/2022 13:48

How do you know that Meghan signed it off? I’d be surprised if she did!

It entirely depends on the publication, and the celebrity involved. Given Meghan talks at length in the article about how she now wants to tell her own story, and it was an article to promote her podcasts, I would be very surprised if she didn’t ask for copy approval - I think she would have seen this as a PR piece, first and foremost.

Snog · 01/09/2022 13:52

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@Rousette are you seriously trying to say that Meghan is not making her money from her Royal Title?????

Have you read my post? I said she didn't use it for her podcast and if she never used it again, ever, you would STILL be saying she's making money from it.
She is married to a member of the RF, that isn't going away, whether she uses her title or not. It's something you have to come to terms with.

Ok Roussette firstly she did use her title for her podcast
It's in the credits as screen shot by a PP.
She also uses it in the promotional articles she has done around the podcast.
How you know what I would say if she dropped using her titles I don't know as you are not me, unsure how you could possibly be confused about that tbh.
I would be very pleased if she stopped using her title as would most of the British public I expect. If she continued to trade on her royal connections for financial gain without using her title explicitly to make money yet whilst throwing slurs at the RF then I wouldn't think that was a very admirable way to behave but I would find the degree of hypocrisy lessened considerably if the titles were dropped.

Meghan is married to Prince Harry, that's a genuine fact for once not just how she feels about the situation (now that we are beyond the three day period of when she said she was married but in fact was not married). I have never been in denial of the fact that she is married to Harry so how exactly is there any need for me to come to terms with that? I don't think anyone has any issue with accepting this fact about Meghan and it seems at odds with reality to suggest that.

BadgerB · 01/09/2022 13:58

ajandjjmum · Today 12:31
Diana was never Princess Diana - she should have been Princess Charles but (understandably) chose to use the Princess of Wales title. It was the press and general public who called her Princess Diana, which always stuck.

I don't think she was ever Princess Charles, because he was already Prince of Wales when they married. She was officially Diana, Princess of Wales.
In time it will be Katherine, Princess of Wales.

Readinginthesun · 01/09/2022 14:04

Roussette · 01/09/2022 13:32

There's no need to be so snippy. I apologise for missing the point.

There is very little about SF or PA on MN. Bear in mind I've started endless threads on PA and they get very little traffic and never fill. So I don't need to "look harder" thanks

Do you not think that’s because 99.9% of people think he is an arrogant, despicable creature?
It would be a pretty boring thread if someone posted about PA and everyone responded by saying “ I agree”.
M and H are hugely divisive therefore discussions are livelier .

Wheresthebeach · 01/09/2022 14:08

There's no point in stripping them of the Sussex titles...she'd be entitled to be Princess Henry of Wales...which would easily shorten to Princess Meighan. I suspect that would suit her down to the ground.

I agree the lack of discussion on Andrew is down to their being general agreement that he's a creep, also...they've muzzled him. There was a massive explosion of interest after the interview, and it still comes up now and then when he shows up at events. If he continued to do interviews, pod casts about how innocent he is, then there would be threads galore.

HubbaHubble · 01/09/2022 14:10

I can imagine a situation of being caught up in the excitement of the premier, celebs including Beyoncé and JayZ there, and the general high of the occasion, for the “cast member” to be hyperbolic and gushing in his enthusiasm when meeting Meghan.

I doubt that he really meant in all seriousness that he and fellow South Africans equated Meghan marrying Harry to Mandela being freed. But people do say daft things in the moment.

Like you might go to a dinner party and say to the host “that was the best meal I’ve ever had, better than (insert famous chef).”

I think the cringe is that Meghan apparently took it seriously and to heart. Or did she? Who knows. We weren’t there and we also don’t know the tone in which she relayed the story to the Cut.

Roussette · 01/09/2022 14:10

Readinginthesun · 01/09/2022 14:04

Do you not think that’s because 99.9% of people think he is an arrogant, despicable creature?
It would be a pretty boring thread if someone posted about PA and everyone responded by saying “ I agree”.
M and H are hugely divisive therefore discussions are livelier .

Of COURSE I get that. But even when there were developments with all that went on, they were not busy threads

themessygarden · 01/09/2022 14:11

If I remember correctly, there were numerous threads about PA's interview with Emily Maitlis.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 01/09/2022 14:13

Roussette · 01/09/2022 14:10

Of COURSE I get that. But even when there were developments with all that went on, they were not busy threads

There’s nothing to say. He’s a horrible, entitled, morally bankrupt person. End of.

Serenster · 01/09/2022 14:13

Of COURSE I get that. But even when there were developments with all that went on, they were not busy threads

Sadly, but truthfully, I have found that not that many people are interested in the minutiae of cross-jurisdictional litigation. They don’t know what they are missing out on 😉

Roussette · 01/09/2022 14:15

Snog

I'm not 'at odds with reality', I just know that if they dropped their titles and he was just Prince Harry, nothing much would change.
She'd be called Princess Meghan by the public and media to match him most likely

Novella4 · 01/09/2022 14:16

@Wheresthebeach

I'm not sure about muzzled ...
He made a bee line for the press at Philips funeral .
He was regularly seen accompanying the queen in her car .
He walked the queen down the aisle at something or other ( I don't watch the events - jubilee maybe )
Not one member of the 'royals' have publicly condemned what he did.

He had to stay close to mummy to avoid being served at once point

Snog · 01/09/2022 14:17

I don't think there is any particular need to strip M & H and of their titles as all they need to do is to stop using them and request that others do the same when writing articles promoting them.

Roussette · 01/09/2022 14:18

themessygarden · 01/09/2022 14:11

If I remember correctly, there were numerous threads about PA's interview with Emily Maitlis.

There were threads on the interview, yes but I am sure we can all agree it was gobsmacking and garnered interest
I started threads on developments before and after, they never filled

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