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Meghan challenged racism, sexism, anti transgender jokes

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antelopevalley · 20/07/2022 17:41

The Sunday Times is reporting that when Meghan first met Harry's friends, she challenged every single one of their sexist, racist and anti-transgender jokes.

"Soon after Harry and Meghan’s relationship was revealed, Harry invited Meghan to join his weekend shoot at Sandringham. With the Queen’s permission he had invited 16 friends to arrive for dinner on Friday night, shoot on Saturday and leave after lunch on Sunday. Most of the guests were old friends from Eton with their wives or girlfriends. All of them were employed by international banks and auction houses or were estate owners and racehorse trainers. All were bonded by common assumptions, principles and loyalties.

Like other shooting weekends, Harry was looking forward to endless banter, jokes — and a lot of drinking. He had not anticipated Meghan’s reaction. Their jokes involving sexism, feminism and transgender people ricocheted around the living-rooms and dining-rooms. Without hesitation, Meghan challenged every guest whose conversation contravened her values. According to some of Harry’s friends, again and again she reprimanded them about the slightest inappropriate nuance. Nobody was exempt. Harry’s world would not be her world.

Beyond Harry’s hearing, some friends questioned Meghan’s “wokery”. Meghan was a dampener on the party, they concluded. She lacked any sense of humour. Driving home after Sunday lunch, the texts pinged between the cars: “OMG what about HER?” said one; “Harry must be f*ing nuts.”"

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FirstFallopians · 20/07/2022 18:35

I’m no fan of Meghan, in so much as you can form an opinion of someone you’ve never met, but fair play to her.

Riapia · 20/07/2022 18:35

Lost me at the transgender.

SirChenjins · 20/07/2022 18:36

If this is true then well done her for calling it out.

However, given that her husband found this sort of thing amusing and exhibited well documented behaviour that would have sent most right minded women running in the opposite direction of a first, it’s hard to see why she would have been attracted to this particular prince in the first place.

RoseslnTheHospital · 20/07/2022 18:39

GirlInACountrySong · 20/07/2022 18:29

Challenges and 'reprimanded' how?

What did she say?

She stayed the full weekend so voted with her feet then?

Voting with her feet is what these people want from others who are different to them. That's why they behave that way, it's deliberately excluding and hostile. And excused as "banter" easily, if people are prepared to swallow that load of nonsense.

Why should she leave a weekend with her boyfriend just because the other invitees were behaving in a racist, homophobic, sexist way? It would be tacit agreement that they are right, she doesn't belong there and should not be there.

FictionalCharacter · 20/07/2022 18:41

worriedatthistime · 20/07/2022 18:24

And we now this is true how ?

Indeed. It’s just gossip.

SnottyLottie · 20/07/2022 18:46

Wasn’t this an excerpt from Tom Bower’s book that was released via The Sun? It would account for the negative tone of the article.

It was mentioned in the other thread, and the general consensus was well done to Meghan for challenging for their behaviour. If anything, it makes me take a dimmer view on Harry for associating with (if not partaking in) this ‘banter’. If I was Meghan I would have been running for the hills at this point.

Interestingly, it appears that the time when he put his fun loving, cheeky party boy life behind him (and actually grew up) is also around the same time that the press started to turn on him.

FinallyHere · 20/07/2022 18:51

have seriously doubted that he was someone I'd want to keep seeing.

Are we supposed to wonder what could possibly have been the attraction ?

RichardMarxisinnocent · 20/07/2022 19:17

Riapia · 20/07/2022 18:35

Lost me at the transgender.

Sorry, what do you mean?

SirChenjins · 20/07/2022 19:19

FinallyHere · 20/07/2022 18:51

have seriously doubted that he was someone I'd want to keep seeing.

Are we supposed to wonder what could possibly have been the attraction ?

Not with a straight face, no.

ohfook · 20/07/2022 19:23

Yes it's weird that this is written as though MM is the one at fault and not the people sitting around being racist in front of a person of colour and sexist in front of a woman and transphobic too.

Georgeskitchen · 20/07/2022 19:44

Didn't realise it was a couples weekend, I missed that bit 😕
In that case I wonder why the female partners didn't call them out. Maybe they just tolerate it .
Harry does seem to have shaken off his previous life since he met Meghan but bloody hell he looks so miserable nowadays . Not seen him crack a smile for a few years now

RishiRich · 20/07/2022 19:54

If it's true, then good for her and Harry's mates sound like a bunch of dickheads.

DisforDarkChocolate · 20/07/2022 19:57

I like her more too.

You can bet if they were happy to make these jokes in public they only held back on the racist jokes because she was there.

Meeting someone with standards, good for you Harry.

FinallyHere · 20/07/2022 21:40

@SirChenjins 😁

darmaka · 20/07/2022 21:55

TooTiredToSleepRightNow · 20/07/2022 18:24

Not a fan of Meghan purely because I don’t know why she thought it was a good idea to join the royal family. It’s like knowing the dramas of your in laws, their history that seems to go against your values and still joining them because you’re madly in love with someone who expressed racist views in the past. And now his friends are doing it and she has a problem with it. Like why is that a surprise and did she call Harry out on it? Like why is he hanging out with these people unless he also joins in when she isn’t there. Doesn’t add up to me. But. The fact that she had the guts to call this shit out to their faces means I have new found respect for her.

For the love of God!!

darmaka · 20/07/2022 21:57

Well done to her for challenging them even if it meant her relationship with H would be at risk of falling apart. Sometimes you have stand up for what's right!

TooTiredToSleepRightNow · 20/07/2022 22:20

darmaka · 20/07/2022 21:55

For the love of God!!

🙄

HelloSpringIveMissedYou · 20/07/2022 22:26

I love that she called them out but it would totally have turned me off Harry if that's who he hung around with.

Prince or no Prince I'd have been off!

SirChenjins · 20/07/2022 22:43

Harry has always been racist and sexist - surprised she turned a blind eye to his behaviour and took up with him in the first place. I hope he didn’t leave it to M to challenge his friends, he should have called them out on it and left them.

38DegreesAndRising · 20/07/2022 22:46

Well done to MM for calling out bad behaviour but my goodness can you imagine the bollocking she presumably gave PH about his mates 😂

Ohmydayssilleople · 20/07/2022 22:54

So if this anecdote is true ..why did she carry on dating him?
Most people would have run a mile if their potential partner had such obnoxious friends!

38DegreesAndRising · 20/07/2022 23:01

Ohmydayssilleople · 20/07/2022 22:54

So if this anecdote is true ..why did she carry on dating him?
Most people would have run a mile if their potential partner had such obnoxious friends!

No idea what could have attracted her to a rich prince

wellhelloitsme · 20/07/2022 23:07

Georgeskitchen · 20/07/2022 18:09

He probably shouldn't have invited her on a "lads weekend" which would probably be (and was, it seems) full of blokey banter.
Surely it would be better to have invited couples?
Leave the blokes banter for when the blokes are in their own company.

Which it probably was, you say? Despite the fact that "Most of the guests were old friends from Eton with their wives or girlfriends."

People really are determined to paint her as a villain, it's baffling the lengths they'll go to. Even if they don't like her, they can't say yes on this occasion, it was obviously right to call out racism and sexism Ffs.

  1. They weren't just in 'their own company' whatever that means.
  1. Normal, decent blokes who aren't racist or sexist don't say racist or sexist stuff. It's not 'blokey banter', it's just plain old racism and sexism.

Good for her calling shitty behaviour out.

If Kate Middleton said to William's mates that they shouldn't make racist, sexist comments she would be heralded and applauded as a champion of women's rights not labelled as problematic for challenging racism and sexism.

It's almost like there's a reason MM can't do right, isn't it...

Mumsnut · 20/07/2022 23:11

Hamg on, , the book and hence the Sunday Tines article made no mention of racist jokes, did it:
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“[Harry-] had not anticipated Meghan’s reaction. Their jokes involving sexism, feminism and transgender people ricocheted around the living-rooms and dining-rooms…..”

RichardsGear · 21/07/2022 00:37

Hmmm I wonder how Harry sold it to her? "God yah, so Smoggers & Annabelle, and Monters & Clarissa, and Boggers & Arabella, and Timmers & Jocasta, and Tommers & Jemima are all coming shooting at Grandmummy's... you'll have to come Megs, they're all so facking funny, you'll love it!"

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