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Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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SmileyFaces12 · 13/07/2022 10:49

It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

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Gilmorehill · 21/07/2022 20:54

I seem to recall there was a theory/rumour at the time that the announcement of M going into labour was actually timed to suit the American early morning news shows.

CathyorClaire · 21/07/2022 20:55

what approach she'll take remains to be seen

I think if she can't sue, it'll quite likely be the 'never complain never explain' model. Through gritted teeth.

queenofarles · 21/07/2022 22:26

We've been told M made Kate cry a thousand times, next!

Even after Kate sent a note and flowers, which palace sources have claimed was an attempt to smooth things over.

they are both grown up women at that time, so I don’t really care who made who cry , one was hormonal and tired , and the other was under a a lot of stress , but for one to go on live TV and say , no it’s me who cried not her ,is quite childish, why even say that ?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/07/2022 22:33

I can just about see never explain, Cathy, but never complain might be a stretch?

At this rate it wouldn't surprise me to see another Oprah interview, complete with more lurid allegations but few names or sources - you know, just like last time

Gilmorehill · 21/07/2022 23:18

Exactly. Weddings are stressful and everyone gets worked up. I didn’t put much thought into who made who cry in this story other than weddings are more stressful than they are worth. You look back on the details and think why did I care?! But Meghan couldn’t just let it go.

P205 · 21/07/2022 23:53

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/07/2022 22:33

I can just about see never explain, Cathy, but never complain might be a stretch?

At this rate it wouldn't surprise me to see another Oprah interview, complete with more lurid allegations but few names or sources - you know, just like last time

Didn’t they say the l

Meanderings · 22/07/2022 05:08

Meghan didn't sue Colin Campbell for her utterly deranged book, so I doubt she would be touching this. She blanked Tina Brown too. Bower is gagging for a lawsuit, poor thing.

Bower himself said he hopes the book will hasten their downfall as he finds the Sussexes a threat to the royal family. Did he not call Meghan a brazen hussy for smiling out a car window at the Jubilee?

Oh and another denial, sources close to the Duchess of Cornwall said it's untrue that she ever made comment about Archie's hair. Wonder where Bower picked that up from. H&M only ever discussed concerns around Archie's skin tone.

Just saw the Telegraph give this hate piece a 2/5, even they found the Meghan bashing a bit much.

TreePoser · 22/07/2022 06:10

If he's hoping for a lawsuit he was very cautious. There is nothing in the book.

Viviennemary · 22/07/2022 06:12

So no new information then. Sounds pretty pointless and a waste of money.

TreePoser · 22/07/2022 06:16

Well, the extracts revealed feel like old news to me. She hated his friends and they were sexist and their jokes were offensive.. she told him they couldn't be his circle or words to that effect.

We knew that!

Anybody read anything new?

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 22/07/2022 06:28

TreePoser · 22/07/2022 06:16

Well, the extracts revealed feel like old news to me. She hated his friends and they were sexist and their jokes were offensive.. she told him they couldn't be his circle or words to that effect.

We knew that!

Anybody read anything new?

Small but interesting things. That the Spencers didn’t like her and were concerned when they were introduced. The confirmation that it was Camilla who speculated on the baby’s looks ( a “joke” apparently, that made Harry laugh until he repeated it to Meghan). That Doris was allegedly a pothead, promiscuous and engineered distance between MM and her father.

Also quite a few new details in things that were already known.

Im still struggling through the middle third, so maybe there will be some big reveals later on, but overall it’s just a solid journalistic job of trying to explain what happened. It doesn’t have LCC’s hectoring tone or Tina B’s knowing spin. There is balance there, or an attempt at balance anyway. He does credit positive things alongside the negative, and reports a range of contemporaneous media coverage. It’s the calmest account I’ve seen.

“Workmanlike” is what I’d say so far. Obsessive fans and obsessive detractors will both hate it. Which probably is the best sign he has done something right.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 22/07/2022 06:37

Some non-sequiturs too. Which might suggest more lurid allegations were removed last minute. This page, for example is bizarre and doesn’t follow from itself.

Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
Samcro · 22/07/2022 07:19

Gilmorehill · 21/07/2022 23:18

Exactly. Weddings are stressful and everyone gets worked up. I didn’t put much thought into who made who cry in this story other than weddings are more stressful than they are worth. You look back on the details and think why did I care?! But Meghan couldn’t just let it go.

just going by mn and what was said about this, M was painted as all kinds of evil for making K cry. after M set the story straight and said K made her cry, it was "oh people cry"
who knows what really happened, but the double standard are awful.

Roussette · 22/07/2022 07:54

Samcro · 22/07/2022 07:19

just going by mn and what was said about this, M was painted as all kinds of evil for making K cry. after M set the story straight and said K made her cry, it was "oh people cry"
who knows what really happened, but the double standard are awful.

I know!

I suppose if your name is Meghan you have to accept everything said about you and you're evil if you dare to say "actually that isn't what happened".

StartupRepair · 22/07/2022 08:00

I haven't read it all, just various extracts but the 5 star humanitarian photoshoot in Kigali seemed quite damning.

Icedbannoffee · 22/07/2022 08:06

Meanderings · 21/07/2022 14:08

Not Tom Bower calling Prince Harry disloyal to his family on Sky News. Someone remind Bower that Harry's actual family are now Meghan, Archie and Lili.

It speaks to the entirely dismissive way they view Meghan and their children.

Well the family you've grown up with don't cease to be family just as you get married and have children? Priorities change, yes, but seems a weird view. I think it's a shame that they burnt the bridges to his family, whilst yes it's the royal family they're also his dad, brother, cousins etc- she's estranged from hers though so maybe not much of a surprise. They had been 'let go' as they wished and so the nastiness that followed seemed unnecessary and odd. That said I don't care enough about any of them at all to bother to read this book!

TreePoser · 22/07/2022 08:08

@HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd thanks for that view. "Workmanlike" is a funny endorsement but I get how it's the right line to walk for figure who is so judged/defensive 🤣

Samcro · 22/07/2022 08:18

@Icedbannoffee I disagree. when you have your own family wife/husband kids they become your family and should be more important and should come first. so if you feel your family is being mistreated by your wider family, surely you step away.

Roussette · 22/07/2022 08:51

Samcro · 22/07/2022 08:18

@Icedbannoffee I disagree. when you have your own family wife/husband kids they become your family and should be more important and should come first. so if you feel your family is being mistreated by your wider family, surely you step away.

Of course your own family (husband/wife/children) comes first! It's a given.

I've seen enough threads on here when a husband puts his mother or father or siblings first causing ructions with his own family.

My family (siblings etc) are around, we're in contact of course, but they are not my priority.

KatharineofAragon · 22/07/2022 09:36

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 22/07/2022 06:28

Small but interesting things. That the Spencers didn’t like her and were concerned when they were introduced. The confirmation that it was Camilla who speculated on the baby’s looks ( a “joke” apparently, that made Harry laugh until he repeated it to Meghan). That Doris was allegedly a pothead, promiscuous and engineered distance between MM and her father.

Also quite a few new details in things that were already known.

Im still struggling through the middle third, so maybe there will be some big reveals later on, but overall it’s just a solid journalistic job of trying to explain what happened. It doesn’t have LCC’s hectoring tone or Tina B’s knowing spin. There is balance there, or an attempt at balance anyway. He does credit positive things alongside the negative, and reports a range of contemporaneous media coverage. It’s the calmest account I’ve seen.

“Workmanlike” is what I’d say so far. Obsessive fans and obsessive detractors will both hate it. Which probably is the best sign he has done something right.

Agree with this. The small details give a real ‘feel’ for her personality.

Womenandwomenfirst · 22/07/2022 09:50

I’m sure the Spencers and Windsors were unimpressed. Those types are very snobby and anyone not in their set would probably fail to pass muster. Let us not forget that Kate had to be in it for the long haul and “morph” into a fully-fledged posho as plenty of their crowd thought her background rather downmarket.

I have occasionally wondered why H&M didn’t just Find Freedom as per their protestations. I think it is a combination of Meghan never wanting privacy as we would think of it; she wanted celebrity but with the attendant PR control, and as for Harry - I believe he is rampantly jealous of William’s position. For all of history we’ve had the second children (the “spares”) seething about being sidelined. Some are happy to drift off (whilst still living a life of immense privilege), and some refuse to accept the situation. Back several hundred years and Harry would have been raising armies/rebellions/invasions and would have ended up in The Tower.

Serenster · 22/07/2022 10:14

Back several hundred years and Harry would have been raising armies/rebellions/invasions and would have ended up in The Tower.

This made me smile - someone could write an entertaining alternative history setting this in the Wars of the Roses period. Harry - avoid butts of malmsey! 😂

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/07/2022 10:14

They had been 'let go' as they wished and so the nastiness that followed seemed unnecessary and odd

But as Harry said himself, the way they wanted to leave "wasn't possible", and it's sometimes (conveniently?) forgotten that this is when much of the public unpleasantness started

Like too many of the RF, it appears that Harry expects to have everything on his own terms or not at all, and life isn't like that - especially when he's no longer got their PR spin to cover up his petulance

MaulPerton · 22/07/2022 10:18

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/07/2022 10:14

They had been 'let go' as they wished and so the nastiness that followed seemed unnecessary and odd

But as Harry said himself, the way they wanted to leave "wasn't possible", and it's sometimes (conveniently?) forgotten that this is when much of the public unpleasantness started

Like too many of the RF, it appears that Harry expects to have everything on his own terms or not at all, and life isn't like that - especially when he's no longer got their PR spin to cover up his petulance

But as Harry said himself, the way they wanted to leave "wasn't possible", and it's sometimes (conveniently?) forgotten that this is when much of the public unpleasantness started

Therefore, the 'revenge' in Bower's title?

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