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Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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SmileyFaces12 · 13/07/2022 10:49

It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

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wordler · 20/07/2022 17:01

The 'money laundering' claims are people misunderstanding the US state corporation laws and that many businesses and charities set up their companies and organisations in a state they don't live in to take advantage of the best tax situation. A lot use Delaware where the laws are very friendly to the organisations - unlike California for example which would take more tax for the state.

Archewell has done nothing wrong by registering in Delaware - I guess it's technically a loophole but it's a legal one that lots of people use.

It also means that a non-profit registered there has less oversight on their charitable donations than in other states but they still have to release public financial statements to show their yearly situation. And again completely legally charitable donations can be partly used for overheads of running the charity - it's the same for all charities - but I think some people have assumed that Meghan and Harry are using that to filter money to themselves.

At this point there is no actual evidence either way for use or misuse of Archwell financials.

MarshaMelrose · 20/07/2022 17:01

But stop putting words in their mouth. They never mentioned hating their family anywhere. They even still talk and interact with them.

As long as there are no photographers in the room and there are witnesses to what has been said. 😉 😂

SnottyLottie · 20/07/2022 17:27

I think we need to enact (a revised) Godwin’s law on MN. If you mention Meghan & Harry on any thread not actually about them, you lose the argument. If you mention Andrew on a Meghan & Harry thread, you lose the argument 😆

Both ‘sides’ are terrible for doing this (I myself have been guilty of it too 😬)

wordler · 20/07/2022 17:32

SnottyLottie · 20/07/2022 17:27

I think we need to enact (a revised) Godwin’s law on MN. If you mention Meghan & Harry on any thread not actually about them, you lose the argument. If you mention Andrew on a Meghan & Harry thread, you lose the argument 😆

Both ‘sides’ are terrible for doing this (I myself have been guilty of it too 😬)

I like it!

Although this is a thread about Tom Bower's book (apparently) and he is covering Meghan, Harry and their relationship with the other Windsors so technically you could discuss them in here. In the context of the book - which I am interested in people reviewing when they've actually read it because I am in the USA where they aren't selling it yet! And my Kindle wouldn't let me pretend I was in the UK to order it.

MaulPerton · 20/07/2022 17:41

wordler · 20/07/2022 17:01

The 'money laundering' claims are people misunderstanding the US state corporation laws and that many businesses and charities set up their companies and organisations in a state they don't live in to take advantage of the best tax situation. A lot use Delaware where the laws are very friendly to the organisations - unlike California for example which would take more tax for the state.

Archewell has done nothing wrong by registering in Delaware - I guess it's technically a loophole but it's a legal one that lots of people use.

It also means that a non-profit registered there has less oversight on their charitable donations than in other states but they still have to release public financial statements to show their yearly situation. And again completely legally charitable donations can be partly used for overheads of running the charity - it's the same for all charities - but I think some people have assumed that Meghan and Harry are using that to filter money to themselves.

At this point there is no actual evidence either way for use or misuse of Archwell financials.

Wordler We know about the legal, semi-legal, sailing close to the wind legal and then the not quite legal and completely illegal loopholes that these foundations employ. They all boil down to the same thing. The RF are masters at this as well (I assume that I am allowed to say this given that it's the RF we are now discussing). All are able to obfuscate their financial inflows and outflows.

notanotheroneagain · 20/07/2022 17:45

SnottyLottie · 20/07/2022 17:27

I think we need to enact (a revised) Godwin’s law on MN. If you mention Meghan & Harry on any thread not actually about them, you lose the argument. If you mention Andrew on a Meghan & Harry thread, you lose the argument 😆

Both ‘sides’ are terrible for doing this (I myself have been guilty of it too 😬)

How about also adding, that there can not be more threads about H&M, than other royals. That would balance it out 😃

Maireas · 20/07/2022 17:53

Unlikely. They're in the news more than Anne or Edward, for example.

notanotheroneagain · 20/07/2022 17:56

Maireas · 20/07/2022 17:53

Unlikely. They're in the news more than Anne or Edward, for example.

So un unworkable rule then, considering the press is alway concentrating on them. Can't get a balance ?

Maireas · 20/07/2022 17:58

I think you have to give the press something to work on!!

wordler · 20/07/2022 17:58

notanotheroneagain · 20/07/2022 17:56

So un unworkable rule then, considering the press is alway concentrating on them. Can't get a balance ?

You've got to admit they are more fun to gossip about. It's like a live action version of The Crown.

notanotheroneagain · 20/07/2022 18:04

We don't have to discuss everything that is reported about them (and we don't, just the snipy bits reported by the British media). Come to think of it, they have not had that much outings in the last 2yrs - more said about them, than we see.
They're in the US, been here, what ? 4 times? Can't be that hard. Maybe the media should start concentrating on the ones that are here.

Ohnonevermind · 20/07/2022 18:13

Perhaps if they weren’t paying their publicists large amounts of money to keep them in the news we’d move along. Instead we have the hyping up of a UN speech, speculation about giving an Oscar, attending the met hall, going to Barack obamas party, pretend handing out cups at the Polo for a final they hadn’t played etc. Omid Scobie reporting breathlessly about them opening an envelope.

KatharineofAragon · 20/07/2022 18:19

38DegreesAndRising · 20/07/2022 13:30

In fact, and I have thought this before, I would have thought that the very fact that PA hasn't had his title stripped, would push H&M even more to making a very visible gesture to cut the symbolic tie - that of titled royal - that they share with him.
This simply must have occurred to them, I can't believe that it wouldn't have.

Totally agree

KatharineofAragon · 20/07/2022 18:19

Ohnonevermind · 20/07/2022 18:13

Perhaps if they weren’t paying their publicists large amounts of money to keep them in the news we’d move along. Instead we have the hyping up of a UN speech, speculation about giving an Oscar, attending the met hall, going to Barack obamas party, pretend handing out cups at the Polo for a final they hadn’t played etc. Omid Scobie reporting breathlessly about them opening an envelope.

Good point

Serenster · 20/07/2022 18:27

Archewell has done nothing wrong by registering in Delaware - I guess it's technically a loophole but it's a legal one that lots of people use.

It’s like Amazon’s EU headquarters being based in Luxembourg to benefit from the lowest possible tax rates. Perfectly legal, but not necessarily a decision that plays well to the public.

notanotheroneagain · 20/07/2022 18:28

KatharineofAragon · 20/07/2022 18:19

Good point

Why are you saying good point to someone who is making things up. We did ask that MN does not cross over to gutter feeding please.

They did play polo and never pretended to give out cups, what are you on about. It's the desperation that is baffling. You are so incensed you have to make things up. That is not good at all, and frankly insulting to other readers on here. MM never did any of what you accuse them of, so why don't you scurry off down to whatever bottom feeding places you get this from. MNHQ already forbade this ages ago.

Also, if H&M were feeding the British tabloids news, you think the fail wouldn't triumphantly shout that from the rooftops.

notanotheroneagain · 20/07/2022 18:34

You can't really compare amazon to archewell. Amazon is discussed at an government/international level, so big is their HR, market , financial impact etc. It's FTSE. So every issues they have has big impact, like their payment of staff and working conditions etc - which traverse countries. Totally different. How many people are employed by Archewell? Not a big company, by any stretch.
Also, in general (not what you said ), they are not as accountable as say the taxpayer/state accountable RF. Apples and Oranges.

wordler · 20/07/2022 18:37

So is anyone getting the book? Will you share the juiciest gossip on here for us poor expats who can't get hold of it?

Ohnonevermind · 20/07/2022 18:42

@notanotheroneagain

They lifted the Lyle cup for the cameras (Netflix) despite the final not being played yet, they didn’t win it, getting knocked out before the final. Looking at the misleading footage circulated anyone could easily believe they had won the cup, instead of the quarter finals
Anything for some footage whether real or fake,

Ohnonevermind · 20/07/2022 18:44

@notanotheroneagain

would you like me to send you a link to the incident ? Or do you want to wait for the Netflix footage when they’ve pretended he’s won ?

Ohnonevermind · 20/07/2022 18:46

@notanotheroneagain @KatharineofAragon

A lot of this PR speculation is originating in the US so I don’t think it’s ‘the British tabloids’ in this case.

Sushine Sachs are getting those internet hits any way they can

Serenster · 20/07/2022 18:48

They did play polo and never pretended to give out cups, what are you on about. It's the desperation that is baffling.

I suspect some disingenuity here, but for those to whom this means nothing, on the 31st of May 2022, Prince Harry’s polo team, Los Padres, won the final of the competition for the Lisle Nixon memorial trophy at Santa Barbara Polo Club. Here’s the page from the US Polo’s website summarising the final with some nice pictures of the trophy presentation:

www.uspolo.org/news-social/news/lisle-nixon-memorial-recap

A week earlier, on the 23rd of May, Los Padres had played the last of their pool matches, and Meghan came to watch the game. Los Padres also won that match, to advance to the semi final. Somewhat strangely however, they had a victory ceremony where they were presented with the Lisle Nixon Memorial trophy, despite it being a week and another two matches before they would actually win it.

Here are photos of the “real” trophy presentation, and the one with Meghan a week earlier. Unsurprisingly, people found this somewhat strange behaviour. It has been speculated is that the match when Meghan was present was filmed for their Netflix show.

Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
notanotheroneagain · 20/07/2022 18:51

Ohnonevermind · 20/07/2022 18:46

@notanotheroneagain @KatharineofAragon

A lot of this PR speculation is originating in the US so I don’t think it’s ‘the British tabloids’ in this case.

Sushine Sachs are getting those internet hits any way they can

Then leave it in the US. What's it got to do with you (or the British tabloids for that matter), cause now your giving yourself a high blood pressure, frothing on here that H&M did this and that. Sometimes even getting things mixed up as you seem to be doing just now.

Serenster · 20/07/2022 18:51

notanotheroneagain · 20/07/2022 18:34

You can't really compare amazon to archewell. Amazon is discussed at an government/international level, so big is their HR, market , financial impact etc. It's FTSE. So every issues they have has big impact, like their payment of staff and working conditions etc - which traverse countries. Totally different. How many people are employed by Archewell? Not a big company, by any stretch.
Also, in general (not what you said ), they are not as accountable as say the taxpayer/state accountable RF. Apples and Oranges.

I guess you are right actually. Amazon is a profit-making corporation so really only has to consider the interests of its shareholders. Archewell is soliciting donations from the public to fund its activities and charitable endeavours. We should have far higher expectations of Archewell than Amazon.

Serenster · 20/07/2022 18:54

Also, if H&M were feeding the British tabloids news, you think the fail wouldn't triumphantly shout that from the rooftops

What universe do you live in where you think newspapers would reveal their sources?

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