Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

[SmileyFaces12]

It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

I think it’s entirely possible that Mr Karshner received a letter from Schillings saying something along the lines of: “our client categorically denies saying that she liked you because of your stutter. We consider that this untrue statement would cause her reputation serious harm in the eyes of an ordinary and reasonable reader. Unless you formally retract it we will issue proceedings against you for defamation”. And pointing out that a puff piece about them would make this go away. (This is standard practice in this kind of situation, by the way).

As I said, of course I don’t know this. But most of the other things he said about Meghan that one might think are uncomplimentary are expressions of his opinion (that she was manipulating him, for example) and not so easy to sue on. A dispute over reported speech is much easier. There’s only one aspect of the account that he specifically corrects…

So you're saying Meghan and Harry are threatening him? Is this what I'm taking from your post?

Yes

This is standard practice in this kind of situation, by the way

Yes course it is. Thanks for enlightening me.

Maybe, just maybe.... he didn't like what he read that was atrributed to him.

I know that's a difficult concept for some on here to get their heads round, and it has to be a threatening letter from M&H because they are - after all - so awful. But there are other scenarios you know.
He didn't like what was said, he corrected it. Wow! A different opinion that could be true!
Take your time digesting this one lol

Of course that could be true, Roussette! I have said several times now that this is just a theory. It’s just if he didn’t like the way the piece was presented there are other bits that he might also have pushed back on, or denied.

I thought the letter comes across as very carefully written. That too interests me.

Of course that could be true, Roussette!

Phew! I thought I was in for a lecture then... on how it couldn't possibly be true!

They wouldn't send a letter because they are awful people. They would send it to protect their reputation, interests, image and future earnings. Kashner is just a casualty of the crossfire.

A casualty he is.

I suspect he was tricked and his words twisted, from what I gleam of his letter. No celebrity will touch him now.

Genuine question:

What is the difference between a stammer and a stutter?

I would use the words interchangeably.
We were always taught not to keep repeating the same words in a piece of writing so if I was writing about someone with a stammer I would mix up the words and refer to them stuttering as well.

(I'd have to be writing a long detailed price about a stammering stutterer )

Agree

Oh I think a bit of controversy can be good for a journalist’s career in that kind of market! Dominick Dunne wrote for Vanity Fair for years and years and was sued quite a lot - politician Gary Condit even sued him successfully - the first time.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/stammering/
There is no difference. In the UK we call the condition stammering and in the USA the word stuttering is more commonly used. The more technical term is dysfluency.

Good point. It all depends on what happens next. It can either take off for him or he may flounder.

That letter is hilarious, they may have over egged the pudding.

There is a touch of the Tom Cruise’s about it 🤣

It will all depend, I don't know how senior the guy is, but it looks like he was ticking along nicely. Not sure what his personality is.

I imagine VF had a lot of explaining and schmoozing to do over the weekend. Are they sending reporters who talk differently behind your back. It may be true that Hollywood egos are fragile, but they most certainly don't want to hear this kind of talk. VF would like to continue interviewing personalities who don't need them. This in itself will not end or even dent VF, but at that level, you don't even want a scratch on you. One scratch, leads to another, next thing someone somehow connects them. Just saying, they will be meticulous at that level.

In the meantime, Bower has not done any favours to the already suspect British media reputation.

In the meantime, Bower has not done any favours to the already suspect British media reputation

I am not convinced that any other media, in whichever corner of the globe we care to look, is any less suspect.

I feel like I’ve been down a right rabbit hole since casually opening this thread earlier, and then reading all the linked articles. (In my defence I have covid). No one comes out of all this looking great. There is a recurring theme (maybe it is untrue and MM will therefore sue for defamation) of MM being hard to work with and/or not particularly liking real work (all the drama about the adverts..how hard can it be to spend a few days a year filming?), the bullying accusations and then finally the withdrawal from public service work completely because - as a PP said, it’s actually not very glamorous - and you have to adhere to a timetable and travel around the country in all weathers rather than releasing insta stories or whatever.

PH and MM should silence all the “haters”
and those wrongly accused thereof by relinquishing their titles completely and living as 100% private citizens. The thing that annoys people is what appears to be a sense of entitlement to the best bits of being royal without having to actually earn it, while also criticising it from afar. I’m a republican and not even British, so couldn’t be further from a royalist, but I do pay tax here so I have a vested interest in how all this is organised and funded. And I don’t want my tax pounds indirectly increasing “likes” on PH and MM content, if they actually product any content that is. A complete civil divorce from royal titles and privilege will settle all this surely.

PH and MM should silence all the “haters”
and those wrongly accused thereof by relinquishing their titles completely and living as 100% private citizens. The thing that annoys people is what appears to be a sense of entitlement to the best bits of being royal without having to actually earn it, while also criticising it from afar. I’m a republican and not even British, so couldn’t be further from a royalist, but I do pay tax here so I have a vested interest in how all this is organised and funded. And I don’t want my tax pounds indirectly increasing “likes” on PH and MM content, if they actually product any content that is. A complete civil divorce from royal titles and privilege will settle all this surely.
The problem with 'neutral' people like yourself, is that you don't have this same energy for the likes of Andrew,Lord Rothemer, Marlborough and a whole host of others with titles.🙄

I have never heard of those people.

Or is that just one person? Never heard of him then.

Happy to be educated though.
How does he make a living?

And does he tend to whinge about the royal family?

Depends, how much money he is making out of it, which way the wind blows. Other times he is fully with the royals, other times they have to sacrifice one of their own, usually H&M.

Since you consider the 2 times Harry talked about the royals as 'tend to whinge', I would assume as a neutral person, you would call him something much worse, as not a day goes by he does not 'whinge' about the RF since he is the owner of the DM.

He does not pay tax here btw.

Go research him.

This sums it up. We know it. Bower is one.

@benryanwriter
I'm not at liberty to say how, but I have seen the inner workings of the Megan Markle media hate machine. And disparaging her in the press is a business, pure and simple. It will not stop because it makes people money.

I’ve found an interview with Sam Kashner and Gayle King here (it’s a YouTube CBSNews one)

He doesn’t have a stammer. I would describe him as a gentle soul - someone who is observant and straight talking. IMO rarely ,for a journalist, he doesn’t seem have an agenda.

@Roussette

likewise a lot of people are on the MM/PH gravy train. Agents / publicists get a percentage.

getting a client from advertising a department store in Canada to a ‘100m Spotify deal’ means there is a lot of protect.