Andrew returning to public life

[antelopevalley]

"Prince Andrew — who recently paid a multimillion-pound settlement to Virginia Giuffre to keep her allegations of sexual abuse, which he denies, out of court — is set to make a controversial return to public life on Monday.

As a member of the Order of the Garter, this country’s oldest and most senior order of chivalry, Andrew, 62, will appear alongside senior members of the royal family at the Garter Day service at Windsor Castle."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/palace-to-support-andrew-in-rebuilding-his-life-as-poison-prince-makes-surprise-return-to-public-duty-r6jskx9b3

@MaulPerton "a rare politician that doesn't act like Andrew did"??? Seriously! That's a ludicrous assertion and downplays what Andrew has been up to. Appalling to tar all politicians with the same brush - even the loathsome bastard Tories are not all committing sex crimes on a daily basis. Dear god.

Its really clear that Andy is trying to get himself set up before mummy pops off, so that he can then argue it out if Charles or William want him to step back. Given her massive blind spot about him (or her lack of caring that he is a loathsome piece of work) I would not be surprised if they continue to float these stories to see if people are still mad about it. If there is no response at some point, he will be back in.

Andrew hasn't been charged with anything. He's been caught behaving inappropriately and sleazily with young women at parties, the same as many, many others in top jobs - Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Trump, police commissioners, politicians, CEOs. Unless he is charged, and he won't be, why does everyone think that he will be punished just because they want it to be so?

At least the folk you mention actually did a day's work every day. What job did Andrew, or indeed any of them ever have? Nothing that's what.

Agree, but, that's neither here nor there when it comes to Andrew.

HydraWater, Rousette - If you Google it there's loads of information on useful things the Queen has done to help forge strong relationships with our Country and other Countries around the world:

First British royal to visit West Germany after WW2 helping to symbolise the reconciliation between the two countries

First British monarch to visit Chinese mainland.

First British monarch to visit ROI in 100 years.

So many more ........

So? We are not a British empire anymore so 100 years ago is totally irrelevant. That was a different time, we're 2022!

That's what Heads of State do. Nothing out of the ordinary there, apart I admit from the hugely successful visit to Ireland which was indeed historic, given that Britain occupied that territory for 800 years. Irish people are very welcoming though.

The trips to the Caribbean, Canada, Oz and wherever else are relics of the ermine robed leader deigning to visit the Imperial subjects, or it was, but Britain is locked in a post colonial crisis of sorts right now, which I believe led to Brexit. You know, the exceptionalism of a small island just because they fought in the war and had an Empire once.

Anyway, from my perspective it is nothing personal, because I do not know any of them personally, but the image they portray is not one of hard work, humility or intelligence either. They were just born, like me.

MaulPerton Because unlike the other odious people you listed, PA is a complete dickhead, as opposed to e.g. Trump - also vile but only part-dickhead - so PA will seal his own fate by continuing to be dense af. Also, all the US presidents etc have huge protection machines that Andrew can't hide behind any more; the other high profile paedos have let him take the rap to shift attention away from their own sordid lives, and the RF is now starting to realise the paycheck is in real danger and so will distance itself from the toxic mess that is PA faster and faster as the queen's life draws to an end. And good old sibling rivalry, looks like there's about as much love lost between Charles and Andrew as between W & H I think.

Anyway it's more important for the country to deal with the sewage seeping out of the HoC than it is to worry about the fate of the royal nonce.

I find the deference paid to them utterly jaw-dropping. Not so far back in time many of the Royals were actual, honest-to-goodness Fascists. But God save them, I say. waves tiny flag on a stick

Charles might have wanted to be King but
now at 73 years old I do think when the time comes he will think that he is too old and will hand the reins to William.

I do think he will do what it takes for the monarchy to survive and that is step aside for a younger more modern monarchy

Also, all the US presidents etc have huge protection machines that Andrew can't hide behind any more; the other high profile paedos have let him take the rap to shift attention away from their own sordid lives

What exactly was the “rap”

That must be why PW was out the other day selling the Big Issue, to get experience of real life. Do they think we are impressed by them trying to emulate the common man or what? Funny how we are always told about these humble gestures with pictures to boot.

Because he’s a liar and totally corrupt.

Charles might have wanted to be King but
now at 73 years old I do think when the time comes he will think that he is too old and will hand the reins to William

He's been gagging to get at the reigns reins since forever. Given Granny lived to 101 and Mummy is 96 I think he'll take his chances on getting in at least a few years especially as he's stepping up to the glory gigs more and more often with little sign that Wills is any more than the sideshow he was.

Charles step aside?😂

But @Mamamia7962 any head of state would have made those visits. 🤷‍♀️ Not something different or special. She just turned up and waved. Can’t get excited about it.

@Kennykenkencat i will stake my house that he won’t! I absolutely guarantee you that he won’t. He’s never intimidated the idea once - he has absolutely no intention of standing aside. He’s desperate to be king! He doesn’t understand or care what the British public think of him. There’s fuck all we can do to stop him becoming king so why should he spare us a thought?

Intimated not intimidated 🤦‍♀️

@MaulPerton So have those other famous people also paid £12 million to accusers?

Seriously you must think us very naive. Andrew is literally above the law. That is why he was never charged. That is why a civil case was taken out. A case that he got rid of by paying a large amount of money.
He also sued The Dun in the UK and lost. They found there was credible evidence to think he was guilty.

antelope

I know exactly what Andrew has done and who he is. I am merely pointing out that if we expect these men to be somehow punished because of their actions, we'll be waiting a long time. In fact, they get rewarded. Even if Andrew doesn't return to public life, he will still reap rewards, certainly financial, from behind the scenes.

I think Charles will do 5-10 years, get his face on the bank notes, and then abdicate in favour of PW. The Dutch and Belgians have shown how retirement in favour of a child can work, but he’s been waiting in the wings his entire life with a mother who’s banged about about lifelong duty for what feels like an eternity. There’s no way he’ll voluntarily let them skip him. And I don’t think PW or the DoC would want it either, if it were me I’d prefer the kids to have a childhood and late teen years where I wasn’t distracted by being a head of state/consort.

With regards to PA, he’s got away with it, but he’s too dim to realise it. That’s why he keeps pushing and pushing and clinging on to the modicum of status he has left, rather than thanking his lucky stars and slinking off discretely before anyone rakes up any more dirt on him. Whilst I do wish he’d FOTTFSOF there are so many repellent facets to the man I’m not sure which region or country I’d inflict him on.

I dont think he will abdicate. His role model is goingbto me his mother, not the king of Belgium

I am merely pointing out that if we expect these men to be somehow punished because of their actions, we'll be waiting a long time. In fact, they get rewarded. Even if Andrew doesn't return to public life, he will still reap rewards, certainly financial, from behind the scenes

Spot on, MaulPerton. We may not like it, but until there's the will to do something about it nothing can be done - and with the RF in particular, the entire purpose of the very slick PR machine is to make sure that will doesn't develop

I also agree with you that there's every chance Andrew will crawl back into a public role, again because there really isn't anythng to stop him. Clearly his mother won't, and as I've said so often I doubt Charles will be able to if he doesn't want to see further leaks against himself

I've said it many times before. The Queen should've abidcated 20 years ago and passed on the position to her son who would've been in his 50s. I know I know it's a religious calling, she promised it on her coronation etc etc. But to me, it would have been a selfless act.

We would have a different monarchy than we have now. It's antiquated, bloated and harks back decades at the moment..
If the Queen had done this, Charles could have done 20 years and passed on to William now. The monarchy would have been modernised, and slimmed down. As it is... we are just plodding along like we did in the last century. Some other European monarchies manage to look forward, we just cling on to the past.

Of course the Queen should be lauded for her 70 years with a Platinum Jubilee but at what cost?