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Andrew returning to public life

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antelopevalley · 12/06/2022 19:10

"Prince Andrew — who recently paid a multimillion-pound settlement to Virginia Giuffre to keep her allegations of sexual abuse, which he denies, out of court — is set to make a controversial return to public life on Monday.

As a member of the Order of the Garter, this country’s oldest and most senior order of chivalry, Andrew, 62, will appear alongside senior members of the royal family at the Garter Day service at Windsor Castle."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/palace-to-support-andrew-in-rebuilding-his-life-as-poison-prince-makes-surprise-return-to-public-duty-r6jskx9b3

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Ohnonevermind · 19/06/2022 09:25

Compelling reason for William to be closer in Windsor. They’ve picked a small close house. He can’t clearly say, I’m close so i can stop my dodgy uncle trying to worm his way back in with Granny so the courtiers are to let me know when he’s there and Kate or i can pop through the hedge to sort it

MaulPerton · 19/06/2022 09:39

Cloudysunday · 19/06/2022 08:54

What’s all this speculation about William got to do with Andrew ‘s return to public life ? Hint - nothing , just another chance for some posters to have a dig at the Cambridges.

It's a good point, but, given that only tantalisingly tiny nuggets of information are thrown out to the public about the royals, we will naturally spin layers of narrative over and above 'fact'. These stories will inevitably be interconnected across all the different players.

But, why do we want to know so much about the royals in the first place? Contrast that with public interest in other prominent people. Absolutely no-one wants to know about Johnson's kids and wives/women, or Cameron's children or the Blair kids. Across the pond, how much interest is there really in the Kushners, Ivanka's wardrobe, Chelsea’s activities we all know about Hunter but he is in a different category? So, it is specifically the royals that everyone wants to know about, because of their blue blooded exclusive genetics, I presume.

By the way, wasn't it Giles Coren who first tweeted about the possible affair (tweet promptly deleted, but not before some papers picked it up)?

Daisyroseandhyacinth · 19/06/2022 09:47

The Blair kids etc aren’t parading around in carriages or waving from balconies so they generate less interest.

Roussette · 19/06/2022 09:51

Exactly!
We are force fed a diet of Royals whether we like it or not. Like the father's Day pic William and the kids. There is no escape.
The press dictates this blanket reporting and I get sick to death of it

LaMarschallin · 19/06/2022 09:57

MaulPerton
By the way, wasn't it Giles Coren who first tweeted about the possible affair (tweet promptly deleted, but not before some papers picked it up)?

He did but I don't know if it was before or after the original Tom Sykes article.
It was before the second "D. of an E." article.

Cloudysunday · 19/06/2022 09:57

What’s wrong with the photo of W and the DC ?

Ohnonevermind · 19/06/2022 09:57

@Roussette

if you’re getting so worked up by a few photos perhaps you should take a break from it. He’s doing a few photos not invading Ukraine.

Roussette · 19/06/2022 10:44

Ohnonevermind · 19/06/2022 09:57

@Roussette

if you’re getting so worked up by a few photos perhaps you should take a break from it. He’s doing a few photos not invading Ukraine.

Sorry?

Not sure what you mean?
I've answered a post saying we are force fed a diet of Royals in the press, I've said this numerous times on MN. I was using the pic today as an illustration of a point.
Worked up hahahaha.... what a strange observation!

I can assure you I'm quite chilled, you'd know if I was 'worked up' I promise you. Saying about Ukraine.... rightio Hmm tasteless.

LaMarschallin · 19/06/2022 10:58

Ohnonevermind

He can’t clearly say, I’m close so i can stop my dodgy uncle trying to worm his way back in with Granny so the courtiers are to let me know when he’s there and Kate or i can pop through the hedge to sort it

I do like the image this conjures up.

MaulPerton · 19/06/2022 11:11

Daisyroseandhyacinth · 19/06/2022 09:47

The Blair kids etc aren’t parading around in carriages or waving from balconies so they generate less interest.

It's what keeps them exclusive and exclusivity creates demand (in all things royal). There is nowhere near the same level of demand for the product that emerges from any other monied class.

LaMarschallin · 19/06/2022 11:22

MaulPerton · 19/06/2022 11:11

It's what keeps them exclusive and exclusivity creates demand (in all things royal). There is nowhere near the same level of demand for the product that emerges from any other monied class.

Also I suppose, if things stay as they are, the royal children are likely to stay in the news and public consciousness in a way that politicians' or other celebrities' children won't necessarily (although, of course, some do).
It's said now that Harry is important as the grandchild of the monarch and will eventually be the offscreen, then sibling of the monarch; so the same will be felt about, say, Charlotte and Louis.

LaMarschallin · 19/06/2022 11:25

*offspring

With my "Dr Freud (be very A-Freud)" fancy-dress outfit on, I promise that wasn't a Freudian slip Grin

Samcro · 19/06/2022 11:51

have to say that is a nice pic of PW and his kids.

PoseyFlump · 19/06/2022 17:40

Let's get back to slagging off PA Grin

I do find it interesting that he has no support even though he hasn't been found guilty of anything. But then I think common sense dictates that if you can't stay away from a nonce (thanks @FoiledByTheInsect for the definition) as in PA's case or children, as in Michael Jackson's case, then you probably have got an uncontrollable desire for those things. My suspicion is that the RF stretches further than just PA with regards to unacceptable connections and behaviour. Favourite uncle springs to mind.

CathyorClaire · 19/06/2022 20:18

Let's get back to slagging off PA

Oh, yes. Let's Grin

He's now reported to be stamping his hooves refusing to socialise with Charles and Wills because he's so very, very angry with them:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/angry-prince-andrew-refusing-socialise-27272358

I'd imagine they're gutted...

LaMarschallin · 19/06/2022 20:23

Yup.
No fun times at the races with Andrew.
That'll teach them.

CathyorClaire · 19/06/2022 21:20

Not to mention the summer shooting jollies overshadowed.

We can only hope they stay well out of range Grin

Roussette · 20/06/2022 08:06

I can only begin to imagine how toxic it all is... sniping and backbiting amongst themselves, households briefing against each other, spreading rumours, one not talking to the other, it must be a nightmare.
When the Queen dies, it is going to be hard to contain all this, I think the wheels might come off the wagon somewhat. PA isn't giving up without a fight. No wonder one of the daughters buggered off to live in Portugal, don't blame her!

Ohnonevermind · 20/06/2022 08:21

@Roussette

I think they’re all united on the Andrew issue so can’t imagine much backbiting there, and the other main source of tension is on the other side of the Atlantic living their best lives so I think the fighting is more wishful thinking on your part

Roussette · 20/06/2022 08:25

Ohnonevermind · 20/06/2022 08:21

@Roussette

I think they’re all united on the Andrew issue so can’t imagine much backbiting there, and the other main source of tension is on the other side of the Atlantic living their best lives so I think the fighting is more wishful thinking on your part

Why would I be wishing that? I am commenting on a link posted at 20.18 last night where it says Andrew is cold shouldering Charles and William because he can't get his way and he is very very angry with them.
I cannot imagine it is very smooth and tranquil at the moment.

What 'tension' is there 'the other side of the Atlantic?'
I haven't read anything, but how sensible them moving away.

Ohnonevermind · 20/06/2022 09:02

@Roussette

Andrew and Sussex are on the outside,
This has brought the others closer. I thought it was pretty obvious at the jubilee

Ohnonevermind · 20/06/2022 09:07

Meghan and Harry seem to be having a lovely time in the US. Harry must be delighted to be
back playing Polo.

they all seem to have accepted their new roles and relationships (apart from Andrew), so I guess that’s next on the agenda.

Being a godfather fan, I’d advise Andrew not to go fishing with Prince Charles after the Queen dies 😉

Roussette · 20/06/2022 09:09

Andrew doesn't want to be on the outside though, does he?
'Sussex' as you call M&H, are happy they've left I'm sure

As for being obvious they are all now really close, because of the Jubilee....when you have the world's cameras and press on you, you put up a good show, whatever is going on. We have no idea if they're closer or not.

Samcro · 20/06/2022 09:09

I thought the Sussex's did well at the jubilee. I don't think they are as unpopular with the public(discounting mn) as PA. rightly so.
I imagine having someone like PA in your family is much worse than having PH or an american.

Roussette · 20/06/2022 09:12

Ohnonevermind · 20/06/2022 09:07

Meghan and Harry seem to be having a lovely time in the US. Harry must be delighted to be
back playing Polo.

they all seem to have accepted their new roles and relationships (apart from Andrew), so I guess that’s next on the agenda.

Being a godfather fan, I’d advise Andrew not to go fishing with Prince Charles after the Queen dies 😉

😂🤣 love it!
Grouse shooting at Balmoral might be the RFs fishing trip!