If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....

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...why would you want to have them participate in a really high-profile public bash?

Particularly one to celebrate an institution you have walked away from.

Genuinely puzzled.

Charles opened a trust fund of 2 million for Camilla's children????

And why is everyone moaning about Harry, when Charles snuggly fit in Camilla into security and took care of her adult children

Some of us have commented on both; in fact I posted about Camilla and her kids at the time and have mentioned it since, but it seemed nobody wanted to discuss it

@SilverSplitsTheBlue

Charles opened a trust fund of 2 million for Camilla's children????

I know right !

Even if Charles did not like what Harry did by leaving. You would think, as an adult he would just worry about baby Archie security.

The trust fund thing was widely reported at the time, but it all seems to be "sources" and anyway I wouldn't have thought it was the kind of thing that would be made public

Or in other words, the media could well have made it up

Or maybe not.

notanotheroneagain

Charles paid for Camilla’s security pre wedding .
Your point about the trust fund for Tom and Laura is irrelevant. Do you honestly think Charles wouldn’t want his DC and DGC protected ? Of course he does but Harry’s request is not possible .

Or maybe not.

Maybe not indeed. But it’s funny how many people will insist the media must be lying when they publish anything about Harry and Meghan but will give them the benefit of the doubt when it’s comes to anyone else 🤷‍♀️

@Justkeeppedaling

Why do people still go on about the 'Scotland Yard/Met is not for sale' when this thread already showed that Kate Moss paid 10K for the police for her wedding, Toni Blair paid for extra security when he does his own personal engagements overseas, football clubs etc. pay for police

There's a difference between being invoiced by the police for extra police required because your holding a big event that will attract lots of crowds and affect traffic in the area, and demanding your own personal protection.

The organisers of sporting events and the like (eg football matches) pay for the necessary police at the event.

Well football matches are to protect the general public as a whole. Not just for one individual.

My understanding is Harry and co would have protection at public events with big crowds like the ones you have described. He will have royal protection at any official event he goes to with other members of the RF.

BUT he wants additional private protection when not carrying out these duties. Just for him and his family to go about their private business. That's what he Cannot buy. As it should be.

I didn't know about the fund that Charles set up for Camilla's DC - but as someone said upthread, his money, his choice how to spend it.

Although we don't know exact figures, we know that Charles spent millions on funding Harry and then Harry and Meghan, until they decided to step away and become financially independent. So now they have the opportunity they wanted, I can't understand all the moaning.

Funny how everyone is so understanding about Camilla DC getting money and Camilla getting protection. But not of Harry. He had just clearly left and needed to get this feet on the ground. Dan Wootten forced their hand to the announcement, which I'm sure they would have liked to have planned with the family. They were being given the run around and something would have been worked out.

The RRs report positive about the RF. They only lie about H&M in a negative way. So, no they have proven themselves multiple times, that I should not trust anything they say about H&M, especially if it smears them.

Charles funded Harry for the first year I think . He spent a lot of money. It couldn’t be expected to be a permanent arrangement.

Well football matches are to protect the general public as a whole. Not just for one individual

That's my point. But the football teams have to pay for them.

@ notanotheroneagain.

What exactly is your problem with Charles giving Camilla’s DC money ? He supported Harry for more than 30 years until Harry ( and Meghan) said they wanted to be financially independent. Charles is respecting their wishes.
None of us know if he has set up Trust Funds fir his grandchildren . I suspect he has but doubt if we will only know if H and M tell us . It might even be in H’s forthcoming book !

I think Charles setting up trust funds for his DSC was a way of acknowledging the impact on their lives of the whole sorry mess and showing Camilla that he would be generous to her family.

@ StartupRepair
I agree plus on MN , all DC of blended families should be treated the same so why the raised eyebrows?!

@StartupRepair

I think Charles setting up trust funds for his DSC was a way of acknowledging the impact on their lives of the whole sorry mess and showing Camilla that he would be generous to her family.

Yes. That’s what I thought.

Harry’s court case about security ( or lack of) starts today . Should be interesting .

Apparently the crux of his argument is that he doesn’t “feel safe” coming back to England, which he considers his home.

Yet more breathtaking entitlement from a Royal.

Don’t feel safe? Don’t come. Easy.

I live abroad. It’d be like me wishing to rent the NHS privately because I have health anxiety caused by factors peculiar to the U.K. when I visit. I could pay for private health insurance. But no, I consider the private sector won’t do as good a job as I consider I need. So, I’m going to sue the Dept of Health for not letting me pay to hire the NHS - depriving local people of its use while I’m using it - whenever I choose to visit the U.K. because it’s my home and I fancy visiting my family or friends or doing some work.

They can all just fuck off. The whole lot of them.

@givethatbabyaname

Apparently the crux of his argument is that he doesn’t “feel safe” coming back to England, which he considers his home.

Yet more breathtaking entitlement from a Royal.

Don’t feel safe? Don’t come. Easy.

I live abroad. It’d be like me wishing to rent the NHS privately because I have health anxiety caused by factors peculiar to the U.K. when I visit. I could pay for private health insurance. But no, I consider the private sector won’t do as good a job as I consider I need. So, I’m going to sue the Dept of Health for not letting me pay to hire the NHS - depriving local people of its use while I’m using it - whenever I choose to visit the U.K. because it’s my home and I fancy visiting my family or friends or doing some work.

They can all just fuck off. The whole lot of them.

Yup. I’m with you there. A whining ninny with no idea of what real life is about.

Just reading that Harry did not offer to pay for security, despite multiple assertions on MN threads that he did. So Prince Entitled wants royal protection for free despite not being royal anymore. He needs to stay with family. Their protection will extend to him. Problem solved.

@ LondonWolf
I agree . He states he wants to return to see family and friends so if he stays in one of the Royal residences ( it’s already been leaked that Charles invited to stay with him) he will have official protection and surely friends would be welcome to see him there ?
However the cynic in me thinks he wants freedom to engage in some private business activities where he would not have Royal protection.

Just reading that Harry did not offer to pay for security, despite multiple assertions on MN threads that he did

Can I ask where this was reported, LondonWolf?
Not that it seems to work like that anyway, but I just wondered

Just reading that Harry did not offer to pay for security, despite multiple assertions on MN threads that he did

I’m wondering about this too because it was only asserted on MN because it was reported in the MSM that he had offers to pay 🤔

Here’s just one link

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/15/prince-harry-presses-for-police-protection-to-visit-uk-with-family

Just to add I don’t think that’s how it works either, but he did offer to pay.

Ah ok. Reading a report in i news, it states this:

The Home Office also claimed the duke’s offer of funding was “notably not advanced to Ravec” at the time of his visit in June 2021, or in any pre-action discussions.

inews.co.uk/news/prince-harry-bid-fund-uk-police-protection-home-officer-lawyer-high-court-1470137

According to the Home Office, he only 'offered to pay' after the story was leaked last month. However, in their 'statement' it was said that he 'offered' to pay the costs of police protection in January 2020 at Sandringham. That would appear to be an untruth, let's put it that way.

In any case, it's a total red herring, as armed police protection is not available for purchase.