Will Beatrice and Eugenie become full time royals?

[Flynnqwer]

When they’re Counsellors of State?

Currently the four Counsellors are Charles, William, Harry and Andrew. When Charles accedes the throne Beatrice will take her place as counsellor, and when William accedes so will Eugenie. Or perhaps they will sooner than that given that Harry and Andrew can, in reality, not represent the Queen any more.

Will they become full time royals at that point? Currently William and Kate are the only working royals of their generation. I know Charles is keen on a slimmed down monarchy, but William will need support from his own generation in the absence of Harry.

[merrymouse]

Yes indeed. William didn’t begin to be a full time working royal until he was 35. George won’t be 35 for another 27 years. William will be 67. Princess Anne 98 (and almost certainly not working) and Edward 84 (perhaps still working, but presumably not full time).

The Queen was Queen when she was 25. I think they will cope somehow.

[user1497207191]

You don't need to be a "counsellor" to do Royal public duties. There are lots of "minor" royals who are very active.

Counsellors seem to have a very different role/responsibility, not necessarily doing the public facing side of things, i.e. events/openings etc.

[onlyreadingneverposting8]

The way I'd understood it from the media was that when they married Beatrice and Eugenie had decided they no longer intended to be full time working royals as had been their want and intent. That actually they were dropping that idea altogether and we're almost becoming private citizens. I personally felt that this was a response to the Andrew situation and that they wanted to step quite quietly away by marrying very rich men who could keep them in the way they've become accustomed.

[user1497207191]

Yes indeed. William didn’t begin to be a full time working royal until he was 35. George won’t be 35 for another 27 years. William will be 67. Princess Anne 98 (and almost certainly not working) and Edward 84 (perhaps still working, but presumably not full time)

Charles had William late on in life. William had George at a younger age. There's no reason at all why George would wait until he was 35 to become a f/t royal. Quite simply, Charles was very active and still doesn't have responsibilities of being King yet, so there was no need to rush William into a f/t Royal life as Charles was treading water.

Charles will only be King for a relatively short period of time due to his age. William will become King at a much younger age. It's not really tenable for George to not be a f/t Royal when William is King as he'd be next in line.

[GrazingSheep]

Maybe George, Charlotte and Louis will decide royal life is not for them.

[Tree543]

@GrazingSheep

Maybe George, Charlotte and Louis will decide royal life is not for them.

They might opt out, Harry has set the precedent now for them to opt out.
I wonder if Kate does regret marrying William a little bit. Not for herself but wishing her children could have a more normal freer life of their own choosing. Pippa's children will have a rich and privileged life but without the lack of freedom and scrutiny that George, Charlotte and Louis will have.

[Adeleskirts]

It’s never going to be two working royals, firstly there is Charles and camilla, the royals tend to have longevity so he could be on the throne for a good couple of decades, then by that time George will be of age, and possibly even his siblings, plus Margaret works, as does Sophie.

Beatrice and Eugenie do bits but really don’t have the public profile to be full time, they’d just get the shit ripped out them.

All that’s different is Harry and Andrew no longer work and quite frankly they didn’t do a shit load anyway.

[Maireas]

I think Margaret died in 2002?

[ChristmasPlanning]

@CovidCorvid thank you, that makes sense!

[ChristmasPlanning]

@JustLyra thank you. That makes sense!

[JustLyra]

Currently there are 8 full time royals - Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, Anne, Edward, Sophie and the Duke of Gloucester
As well as 4 part timers - there is the Queen (i'm assuming she won't go back to full time engagements post covid for this), Duke of Kent, Princess Alexandra and the Duchess of Gloucester

In 15 years none of those part timers will be working. Charles, Camilla, Anne and the duke of Gloucester will all be around 90 so will be the part timers.
George will be 23 so finishing uni and/or military service. charlotte and Louis will be uni/military age as well.

Full timers will be William, Kate, Edward and Sophie. That with the 4 part-timers will be doable until the children are older imo. The issue will be if they don't have that back up.

It's a huge change from what would have been expected 20 years ago when the plans to 'slim' the monarchy began. The slimming at that point was meant to be Andrew and Edward's children not taking up roles like the Kents and Gloucesters. It wasn't meant to be Andrew (and his wife) and it certainly wasn't meant to be any of Charles' children.

Going into William's reign it would have been expected that there would be William, his wife, Harry, his wife, Andrew, his wife, Edward and his wife all of an age to be full time royals. it was never meant to be as slim as it would be

[Roussette]

Well.... they will have to apply themselves with what is available. It can't be that bad surely for a slimmed down monarchy? Other European royal houses manage it, I'm sure we can too.
There's been far too many AFAIC.

[Samcro]

The ones we have seem to do very little.
Maybe if they did more it would help.

[Roussette]

I agree @Samcro

[Eustonhalf]

I don't think they will be given any power because it would give their parents an opportunity. They seem lovely girls but their parents are truly dangerous and they're not the sharpest knives. No one will take the risk.

[Eustonhalf]

they wanted to step quite quietly away by marrying very rich men who could keep them in the way they've become accustomed.

I think they married people they loved actually.

[Eustonhalf]

I think Louisa will be welcomed as a working royal.

[LittleBearPad]

@Eustonhalf

they wanted to step quite quietly away by marrying very rich men who could keep them in the way they've become accustomed.

I think they married people they loved actually.

Handy they were very rich though

[Comedycook]

Handy they were very rich though

Very bitchy comment. They're the Queens granddaughters, who did you think they'd marry? They mix in certain circles don't they? Most of us marry those in similar social classes to ourselves.

[user1497207191]

@Comedycook

Handy they were very rich though

Very bitchy comment. They're the Queens granddaughters, who did you think they'd marry? They mix in certain circles don't they? Most of us marry those in similar social classes to ourselves.

Well said. I can't imagine either of them marrying a random bricklayer they met in a Blackpool disco!

[SpinningTheSeedsOfLove]

By law, the Counsellors of State are the monarch’s spouse and the four next in line who are over 21

Well that's a stupid bloody law.

[GrandmasNightgown]

Well said. I can't imagine either of them marrying a random bricklayer they met in a Blackpool disco!

We need a new series of The Windsors!!!!

[SpinningTheSeedsOfLove]

Well said. I can't imagine either of them marrying a random bricklayer they met in a Blackpool disco!

I don't think anyone marries 'random' bricklayers. They marry bricklayers that they love. From places where they live or where they met.

I also think that 'random bricklayers' are less likely to be embroiled in the kind of sexual and ethical incontinence that so often seems to befall members of the York family.

[MarieG10]

Oh god no...please.

I've said for years how awful those Yorks are. I just wish they would fuck off out of public view and stop trying to be full time royals. Fortunately i think Randy Andy has just torpedoed that hope with facing trial in the US.

Chairles wants the monarchy to be slimmed down. Whilst supportive of the royal family a starvation diet would be a good idea

[Kite22]

What @Comedycook and @user1497207191 said.

I've said for years how awful those Yorks are. I just wish they would fuck off out of public view and stop trying to be full time royals

Have you met them ? I was at an event where Beatrice was "the royal" and she was lovely. She had actually also had a fall and sprained he ankle, but still came as she didn't want to disappoint the people due to meet her. She came across as a really nice young woman. she isn't a full time royal, yet still gave up her time for this event.