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Prince Andrew Thread 3

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Roussette · 09/01/2022 19:25

Here is the previous thread...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/the_royal_family/4443261-Prince-Andrew-Thread-2?watched=1&msgid=114083283#114083283

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Roussette · 14/01/2022 08:12

The Security Minister was pushed and pushed on LBC to state who is going to pay for Andrew's security/PPOs. Despite being asked maybe 6 times in different ways, he admits he's avoiding the answer and will not say.

Obviously, that means yes the taxpayer will be still funding his Security bill, despite him being 'a private citizen'

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TheHairyDinosaur · 14/01/2022 08:19

@NiceShrubbery

I'd love to watch Mike open parliament or something.

I'd rather watch him burn it to the ground tbh.

I don't think burning parliament to the ground is the answer. Yes it's full of incompetent people, but it's a nice building. Just needs emptying and new staff.
WinnieTheW0rm · 14/01/2022 08:31

@Roussette

The Security Minister was pushed and pushed on LBC to state who is going to pay for Andrew's security/PPOs. Despite being asked maybe 6 times in different ways, he admits he's avoiding the answer and will not say.

Obviously, that means yes the taxpayer will be still funding his Security bill, despite him being 'a private citizen'

Here

It probably means that there is nothing to say.

But what security does Duke Andrew actually need?

Because I bet there will be a needs-based reassessment starting about now.

WinnieTheW0rm · 14/01/2022 08:34

@amusedtodeath1

No it happened now because his attempt to get the case thrown out failed.
And because they wanted it done before the Jubilee (which is only 23 days away)
Eastie77Returns · 14/01/2022 09:06

He doesn’t need a security detail. His daughters don’t have one (well none that are state funded) because they don’t perform royal duties. He doesn’t either so he’ll have to pay for it himself although I don’t know why he would need it. Ninth in line to the throne, cast out by the family. A nonentity.

CurzonDax · 14/01/2022 09:07

@Roussette

The Security Minister was pushed and pushed on LBC to state who is going to pay for Andrew's security/PPOs. Despite being asked maybe 6 times in different ways, he admits he's avoiding the answer and will not say.

Obviously, that means yes the taxpayer will be still funding his Security bill, despite him being 'a private citizen'

Here

A 'private citizen' living in lots of luxury. Yep, we are definitely still paying for his security. Hopefully, Charles will put a stop to that when he is able to.

Some reasonably good news for the palace (I say whilst rolling my eyes) - at least Downing Street's latest drinking news has pushed the Duke's removal of titles further down the news priority ...

PlanktonsComputerWife · 14/01/2022 10:04

A nonentity.

Yes, but as the queen's son, still a kidnapping risk.

upinaballoon · 14/01/2022 10:10

@Pixxie7

I can’t help thinking that this has happened today to deflect from the party scandal.it seems that when ever the PM gets into trouble something else happens.
I don't see it like that. As the next post said, this Andrew news followed almost as soon as it could after the judge's pronouncement the day before.
AllThePogs · 14/01/2022 10:11

@PlanktonsComputerWife

A nonentity.

Yes, but as the queen's son, still a kidnapping risk.

Then he or the Queen should pay for his security. Why should we? Do other men accused of sex crimes get security protection?
PlanktonsComputerWife · 14/01/2022 10:15

It's an emotional response, but to me the worst of it was the police brutality at Sarah Everard's vigil, justified apparently because these rogue women shouldn't have been gathering, it was too much of a coronovirus risk.

And as it turns out, Sarah's murderer almost certainly exploited the lockdown rules to convince Sarah she'd done wrong and must accompany him.

So much evil has taken place because of these apparently super-necessary lockdown restrictions that of course Number 10 themselves weren't bound by.

I'd still prefer to see Boris's head roll for immigration abuses, the dead on the channel, the energy crisis, the terrible health system, and many other things first, though. It's a disgrace the opposition are getting into a gleeful frenzy over this, but haven't been able to topple him for all the previous abuses and failures.

PlanktonsComputerWife · 14/01/2022 10:16

Then he or the Queen should pay for his security. Why would we?

Since all their wealth is stolen from us, it's a bit of a moot point.

OverByYer · 14/01/2022 10:16

He won’t need security as he’s too scared to leave the confines of the Windsor estate.
Apologies it’s the DM but this story really made me smile
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10400391/Prince-Andrews-solicitor-waits-90-minutes-outside-Windsor-Castle-amid-crisis-talks.html

PlanktonsComputerWife · 14/01/2022 10:19

Sorry, the lockdown post was the wrong thread.

Roussette · 14/01/2022 10:22

Yes, but as the queen's son, still a kidnapping risk

And Harry? They'd received death threats and no security paid for.

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CathyorClaire · 14/01/2022 10:27

I vote in Tindall and Zara as replacement

They're as venal and dingy as any of them.

SerendipityJane · 14/01/2022 10:31

I vote in Tindall and Zara as replacement

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I don't think you quite get how monarchy works.

CathyorClaire · 14/01/2022 10:54

I don't think this has been referenced on this thread yet but interestingly GM is no longer opposing the unsealing of a 2015 VG lawsuit against her naming eight 'John Does'.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/ghislaine-maxwell-unseal-names-virginia-giuffre-b1992662.html

All eight of the Does have objected.

Wonder if this is undercover singing and/or whether it's the start of a plea process or attempt to soften up the judge pre-sentencing.

EdithWeston · 14/01/2022 11:09

That's interesting @CathyorClaire - does anyone know what has to happen to get the names into the public domain?

TheHairyDinosaur · 14/01/2022 11:09

@SerendipityJane

I vote in Tindall and Zara as replacement

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I don't think you quite get how monarchy works.

Any members of the Royal Household can be appointed Councillor of state. 😳 it's normal first 4 in succession but it can be any member.
Eastie77Returns · 14/01/2022 11:10

@PlanktonsComputerWife

A nonentity.

Yes, but as the queen's son, still a kidnapping risk.

So what if he is a kidnapping risk?

Many wealthy people are, so they pay for round the clock protection.

If he can't afford it his mother can pay since tax payer funded security only applies to working (and I use the term loosely) royals. I'm sure most of the minor royals go about their day to day business without security officers.

Anyway he apparently spends most of his time ensconced in Windsor so I'm sure he'll be fine.

EdithWeston · 14/01/2022 11:13

Any members of the Royal Household can be appointed Councillor of state. It's normal first 4 in succession but it can be any member

It's defined by law - consort (optional) and first 4 adults in the succession. Unless disqualified (for example by domicile overseas) or I suppose if the individual formally relinquished the role. In which case it moves on to the next eligible person.

But yes the current Act could be replaced or amended. And historically there have been other arrangements for the appointments.

TheHairyDinosaur · 14/01/2022 11:14

He lost his metropolitan protection when all this first came to light didn't he, and he stepped back as a senior royal.

So whatever security he has, I do believe is privately funded already.

Blossomtoes · 14/01/2022 11:15

@Roussette

The Security Minister was pushed and pushed on LBC to state who is going to pay for Andrew's security/PPOs. Despite being asked maybe 6 times in different ways, he admits he's avoiding the answer and will not say.

Obviously, that means yes the taxpayer will be still funding his Security bill, despite him being 'a private citizen'

Here

Given that the taxpayer is covering the security bills of five former prime ministers, all of whom are multi millionaires, this is the least of my worries. It’s peanuts in the catalogue of reasons to be angry about Andrew Windsor.
cherryonthecakes · 14/01/2022 11:20

@amusedtodeath1

No it happened now because his attempt to get the case thrown out failed.
I think the Queen did this because if he's an HRH then her assets come under scrutiny if VG wins. (PA is basically dependent on the Queen) This way he's poor on paper and the proceeds of the ski chalet is probably the max that she can win.
SerendipityJane · 14/01/2022 11:22

Any members of the Royal Household can be appointed Councillor of state. 😳 it's normal first 4 in succession but it can be any member.

So who did you vote for last time ?