Meghan court case live today

[callmeadoctor]

The whole thing is so bloody convoluted ad contrived.

Just get on a bloody plane and speak to him face to face.

I’m interested in the conversation where M talks about how upset Harry is by the fact that members of the TF, mainly Charles can’t understand why she won’t get on a plane and go and talk to her father.
What does she herself feel? There is no indication of how she really felt about it. The letter was written to manipulate public opinion. She seems very strangely detached from it all emotionally.

With regards to Meghan's credibility, didn't the Queen herself suddenly 'remember' conversations with Paul Burrell regarding something that went to court?

Not really. The police decided that Paul Burrell had stolen various items from Princess Diana’s estate that were discovered in his attic. Paul Burrell provided them with a written statement that noted that he had had a private meeting with the Queen, but did not mention what they discussed (he told her had several items of Diana’s that he was safekeeping). Neither the police of prosecution followed this reference up, and he was then charged him with stealing the items.

The Queen had not been briefed at all about the investigation as the police and prosecution wanted to ensure there was no suggestion of interference (oh, the irony!). So it wasn’t until the trial started and the Queen read the coverage in the newspaper that she realised that she had evidence that was clearly relevant to the case. Her lawyers contacted the prosecution and the case obviously could not proceed. The prosecution had to apologise.

there is nothing Meghan could do that would damage her credibility for you as you are far to invested in her

Maybe it's best sometimes to not make this personal about a poster but to focus on what's posted?
That's what I try to do

@rubicscubicle

Yes *@Aspiringmatriarch*, I think the queen suddenly remembered that Paul has notes from Diana that somehow implicated Charles in her Saville investigation. The letter suddenly ' got lost' - more like a blackmail letter held by Burrell if you ask me. Anyway, she was never called a liar, for this forgetfulness, and sudden remembering.

I can't see anything going to court, tbh. MM's lawyers will definitely ask for the rf members who advised her to write the letter to take the stand, and I have a feeling the palace would not want this. They may sit back and let MM take some smear right now, but I think they will nip it in the bud at some stage. I suspect as someone said, they would not like Harry to go all out - I suspect he was restrained in the OW interview tbh, and may have a lot more to say.

Yeah, no rubicscubicle, that’s not remotely what happened at all!

See my post above - she was kept entirely in ignorance of the investigation until she read about int he paper.

I remember the Paul Burrell trial. The Queen fibbed and we all pretended to believe her.

the Queen read the coverage in the newspaper that she realised that she had evidence that was clearly relevant to the case

Lol , seriously?!

It has been reported that Harry flew out to meet her dad and he didn't make himself available

Harry flew to Mexico? When? There are loads of reports in 2018 that he was going to go, thinking of going, planning to go. But there's no report he did. Why did he go and not his daughter? Why was the RF 'berating' him about them flying to speak to Thomas Markle if they'd already been. That doesn't make sense.

Yes right, the queen who is on top of news, reading papers daily, had no idea at all. zzzzzzz

@Roussette

the Queen read the coverage in the newspaper that she realised that she had evidence that was clearly relevant to the case

Lol , seriously?!

Yes, seriously.

“The prosecution barrister, William Boyce QC, said today that it had emerged that Mr Burrell had told the Queen in a private conversation after Diana's death that he had kept some of her possessions for safe keeping.

The Queen had realised only after the case had started that her evidence might be relevant. She met the Duke of Edinburgh and the Prince of Wales last Friday and steps were then taken to bring the evidence to the attention of the police, Mr Boyce said.

"In all the circumstances, the prosecution has concluded that the current trial is no longer viable because it has proceeded on a false premise that Mr Burrell had never told anyone that he was holding anything for safekeeping.

The prosecution consider that if the defence were to apply for the jury to be discharged, although it would be a matter for My Lady, the prosecution could not oppose that application," he told the Old Bailey”.

I realise lying to the court is all the fashion today, but are you seriously suggesting a QC would lie to the court on behalf of the Crown Prosecution Service?

Yeah, the Queen was sat with her Tupperware full of cornflakes, and suddenly realised when reading the papers, she knew something!
Come off it!

@Roussette come off it yourself. See the QC’s statement to the court above.

Roussette you are often quite personal too though as this is a subject close to your heart. Regardless of this new ‘evidence’ we know she wanted this letter revealed in its entirety because she got her friends to talk about it publicly. No one knew about it before then. Once the press were aware she’d be aware that they would put pressure on her father to reveal it, and that he would cave in.

Harry flew to Mexico? When?

Maybe I'm wrong, I remember reading something about it but not that the prospective meeting was in Mexico - LA I think.

OMG @Roussette, I have been hearing about the new txts, but did not see them.

I assume that JK has a big early retirement package from W&K (a pay off in other words), for him to have had his boss tell him this is in confidence and he splashes it to the world etc. Who would hire him and trust him after this. Never mind the twisting of words too.

He is so brazen and vindictive, is this just about his friend being fired for not knowing her job or more. Why is he so blinded by hatred.

I'm not suggesting anything but if you honestly think the queen's advisers weren't all over the burrell case like a rash, you're deluded!
You can quote reams of stuff all you like but seriously?

@Roussette

Yeah, the Queen was sat with her Tupperware full of cornflakes, and suddenly realised when reading the papers, she knew something! Come off it!

Rous you generally infuriate me but this made me genuinely LOL

I'm not suggesting anything but if you honestly think the queen's advisers weren't all over the burrell case like a rash, you're deluded!
You can quote reams of stuff all you like but seriously?

Absolutely 100% this.

We have to bear in mind that JK went to Uni with Dan Wotton who has been a mouthpiece for hate of H&M and has been fed stuff

I won't presume to doubt your legal analysis and I'd agree their motivation is profit.

That said "they want to destroy Meghan" reads (though maybe that was not the intent) that they are single handedly responsibility for much of the public criticism that is being directed at both her and Harry.

I think the press treatment of all the women who married into the RF has been vile - but it reached a new low with M and personally I think it's hard to argue that this was a result of her ethnicity and nationality.

I was actually very sympathetic of them wanting to forge a new life for themselves- until I read that ridiculous half in/half out exit manifesto.

Since then it's been a downward spiral of poorly judged statements and interviews that have been peppered with mistruths/misleading information/convolution/contradiction etc.

ANL have an agenda but H&M have consistently handed them detrimental copy through poor PR and decisions whilst simultaneously damaging their own credibility in the attempt to hold their chosen narrative.

If you hand your enemy multiple bullets, don't be surprised if they repeatedly shoot you.

Sorry that was to @prh47bridge

It has been reported that Harry flew out to meet her dad and he didn't make himself available

Meghan herself said that she did not think that there was any practical way she could fly out to see her father in a small border town that she had never been to, turning up out of the blue, with lots of journalists lying in wait (this is referenced in the texts released today). So how on Earth would Harry have managed it as a member of the British Royal family rocking up to meet a complete stranger in a small town crawling with paps?

@cabinboots123

The Tupperware always made me smile, it was my dear old mum's thing too!

Do you seriously think that the Queen is regularly briefed on all potential criminal prosecutions? Obviously not.

In addition, the Crown Prosecution regards itself as wholly independent, and holds itself out as making its decisions independently of the police and government. This is hugely important to its work as it mat well be considering the actions of MPs (Jonathan Aiken, Jeffrey Archer) or Royal Family members (Princess Anne) or those close to the Royal family (Paul Burrell). In any of those circumstances both sides would take care to not involve themselves in any discussions about the matters because justice must not only be done, it muse be seen to be done.