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Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan

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Why2why · 26/10/2021 18:58

Interesting analysis but who could be paying for this concerted effort? It’s suggested that not only is it coordinated but the people doing it are paid to do so.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/bot-sentinel-meghan-markle-prince-harry-twitter

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Viviennemary · 05/11/2021 22:33

If she takes a seat in the House of Lords she could use it I suppose. They've all got titles there. Then she could talk politics all she wanted and claim loads of expenses.

Samcro · 05/11/2021 22:53

Have you been drinking as much as me?

Gilmorehill · 05/11/2021 23:10

@Zuluqueen

Even when Meghan shuts up the critics don’t stop. Title of this thread demonstrates that.
I’m not sure Meghan has ever shut up. I’m not saying she should, just that she has not indicated she wants to lead a quiet, low profile life.
Roussette · 06/11/2021 07:28

No, she shouldn't shut up. Hope she keeps going doing what she wants to do.
I hate it when women try to shut other women down. (Although I do object a tad to SF coming out and saying PA is an honourable man and thoroughly good and honourable... wtaf!)

ShamedBySiri · 06/11/2021 08:10

Interesting to contrast Meghan with Princess Mako of Japan, quietly exiting the Japanese Royal family.

www.weltwoche.ch/ausgaben/2021-44/weltwoche-international/julie-burchill-die-weltwoche-ausgabe-44-2021.html

BeckyWithTheAverageHair · 06/11/2021 08:20

But I thought you'd be happy with Meghan's latest move @ShamedBySiri, given that you were saying just recently that she needs to do more for pregnant women in her home country?

BringBackThinEyebrows · 06/11/2021 22:58

Why do you think anyone involved is being paid, OP? There's nothing to imply that's the case.

Meghan Markle is widely disliked. The ratio of likes:dislikes on the recent YouTube video of Meghan reading 'The Bench' speaks volumes (currently 8K:20K) because gmail is the most popular email provider globally and anyone with a gmail email address can easily vote.

The latest YouGov poll of popularity of members of the Royal Family showed that 51% of people surveyed DISLIKE Meghan. 18% are neutral. The only Royal less popular than her according to YouGov is Prince Andrew.

Of course, most people won't create an anonymous social media account obsessively criticising one public figure because they dislike them, but this has been done for years for a variety of public figures. Not saying that's OK, just saying it's not a unique situation in terms of online activity.

The report you mention shows that there were less that 100 Twitter accounts which had no goal, but they hate Meghan Markle and wanted to spread misinformation. It shows they are real people, not bots. Christopher Bouzy stated the worst of the accounts are based in the USA.

Bouzy seems to be targeting women, but there are several men (linguists, body language analysts, NPD analysts) who make a lot of money by being critical about Meghan Markle on social media. Plus Piers Morgan, another guy I can't remember, and the fella on Sky News in Australia. I highly doubt the people included in the report had the same reach/influence as the men I refer to.

A quick search online shows that a woman had her full name and photo published in UK media, and was described as a "troll" because she described Meghan Markle as a 'd-list actress'. In my opinion, that 'crime' doesn't fit the punishment.

I also think this report should be approached with sensitivity. There has already been a high-profile suicide of a woman following being exposed as a 'troll' for targeting famous people online.

PurpleOkapi · 06/11/2021 23:26

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Roussette · 07/11/2021 07:29

If she'd chosen to take Harry's name and introduced herself as Meghan Windsor or Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor, no one would have batted an eye

🤣😂 On MN? Of course there would be much batting of eyes because MM can't do a thing right with the detractors.

As for your last paragraph.... Hmm
Meghan is not clueless nor arrogant, she has a voice, she can use it, and this obsession with names is ridiculous. What next?

A post with an opportunity to slip in a few insults of her from you.

Samcro · 07/11/2021 08:03

I also think this report should be approached with sensitivity. There has already been a high-profile suicide of a woman following being exposed as a 'troll' for targeting famous people online

what about the mh of the famous people targeted online?

ShamedBySiri · 07/11/2021 09:20

But I thought you'd be happy with Meghan's latest move @ShamedBySiri, given that you were saying just recently that she needs to do more for pregnant women in her home country?

You'd think wouldn't you? Unfortunately Meghan chose to write a laughably childish letter to the representatives, which somehow managed to be all about her. Growing up on $4.99 salad bar treats, and waiting tables and babysitting to “cover odds and ends” have what exactly to do with maternity leave?

If I had been writing such a letter, I’d have been wanting to let the representatives know they were dealing with someone who deserved to be included in the list of the world’s 100 top influencers. I’d have wanted them to know they were dealing with someone who had facts and figures at her fingertips and who understood the issue and I’d have tried to make sure I was giving them some information they might not already have.

I’d have researched early maternal/child attachment and the benefits of breastfeeding and included links to respected studies. I might mention the concerning maternal mortality rate in the USA and the fact that many women suffer obstetric trauma and need extended recovery time (here’s a thread from the Masic foundation, http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/guest_posts/4302468-Guest-post-Women-are-expected-to-go-home-with-life-changing-injuries-after-giving-birth-and-just-get-on-with-itt_ - no doubt similar information is available in the USA).

I would possibly point out that women in certain federal jobs in the USA get 12 weeks paid parental leave, paid by the state aka the taxpayer. And yet the same state won’t offer the same benefit to other women who are taxpayers. Hell, I might even seek out some of those women and ask them to give an account of how much they benefited from the policy and what it meant to them. I’d throw in some figures about the expense of obstetric care and childcare and the need to support families and the benefits of doing so.

I would probably reference the maternity benefits that other countries around the world offer for the sake of comparison. I might be able to dig into government or EU statements about the benefits they provide and find some relevant quotes that could be applied to the USA.

If I was feeling a bit overwhelmed by struggling with a new baby I might ask one of my paid employees such as my PR people to do a bit of research on my behalf. And since I was planning to publish the letter I might ask their advice and opinion, just as I asked for the opinion of Jason Knauf on the personal letter I was sending to my father to make sure I was sending a really powerful letter.

I don’t know, maybe that’s just me. After all, I’m not one of the world’s top 100 influencers so when I write to my MP or to government ministers I have to make it an impactful letter whereas an influencer of importance just has to snap her fingers and say “do it”. Oh wait…they didn’t did they. The bill has been pulled at the last minute. So now she has to resort to obtaining private numbers to cold call representatives from her number withheld phone.

If she wanted a new career writing Mills and Boon/Barbara Cartland style books with Duchess of Sussex all over the cover I’m sure she could have a very successful career, I can picture those books in my mind. But she needs to put in some effort to write a better letter if she wants to be taken seriously as a woman of influence.

Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan
BringBackThinEyebrows · 07/11/2021 09:21

@Samcro

I also think this report should be approached with sensitivity. There has already been a high-profile suicide of a woman following being exposed as a 'troll' for targeting famous people online

what about the mh of the famous people targeted online?

That's an odd response to the death of a woman. I didn't say anything to suggest that the mental health of famous people is not important.
PickupaPenguin8 · 07/11/2021 09:37

@ShamedBySiri

But I thought you'd be happy with Meghan's latest move @ShamedBySiri, given that you were saying just recently that she needs to do more for pregnant women in her home country?

You'd think wouldn't you? Unfortunately Meghan chose to write a laughably childish letter to the representatives, which somehow managed to be all about her. Growing up on $4.99 salad bar treats, and waiting tables and babysitting to “cover odds and ends” have what exactly to do with maternity leave?

If I had been writing such a letter, I’d have been wanting to let the representatives know they were dealing with someone who deserved to be included in the list of the world’s 100 top influencers. I’d have wanted them to know they were dealing with someone who had facts and figures at her fingertips and who understood the issue and I’d have tried to make sure I was giving them some information they might not already have.

I’d have researched early maternal/child attachment and the benefits of breastfeeding and included links to respected studies. I might mention the concerning maternal mortality rate in the USA and the fact that many women suffer obstetric trauma and need extended recovery time (here’s a thread from the Masic foundation, [[http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/guest_posts/4302468-Guest-post-Women-are-expected-to-go-home-with-life-changing-injuries-after-giving-birth-and-just-get-on-with-it]]t_ - no doubt similar information is available in the USA).

I would possibly point out that women in certain federal jobs in the USA get 12 weeks paid parental leave, paid by the state aka the taxpayer. And yet the same state won’t offer the same benefit to other women who are taxpayers. Hell, I might even seek out some of those women and ask them to give an account of how much they benefited from the policy and what it meant to them. I’d throw in some figures about the expense of obstetric care and childcare and the need to support families and the benefits of doing so.

I would probably reference the maternity benefits that other countries around the world offer for the sake of comparison. I might be able to dig into government or EU statements about the benefits they provide and find some relevant quotes that could be applied to the USA.

If I was feeling a bit overwhelmed by struggling with a new baby I might ask one of my paid employees such as my PR people to do a bit of research on my behalf. And since I was planning to publish the letter I might ask their advice and opinion, just as I asked for the opinion of Jason Knauf on the personal letter I was sending to my father to make sure I was sending a really powerful letter.

I don’t know, maybe that’s just me. After all, I’m not one of the world’s top 100 influencers so when I write to my MP or to government ministers I have to make it an impactful letter whereas an influencer of importance just has to snap her fingers and say “do it”. Oh wait…they didn’t did they. The bill has been pulled at the last minute. So now she has to resort to obtaining private numbers to cold call representatives from her number withheld phone.

If she wanted a new career writing Mills and Boon/Barbara Cartland style books with Duchess of Sussex all over the cover I’m sure she could have a very successful career, I can picture those books in my mind. But she needs to put in some effort to write a better letter if she wants to be taken seriously as a woman of influence.

That is such an incisive and accurate observation. It says it all.
Samcro · 07/11/2021 10:20

@BringBackThinEyebrows not really. you talked about famous people being targeted.
obvious its sad that someone died. But using it to make a point was your post not mine.

rubicscubicle · 07/11/2021 11:36

Are you saying that the woman who killed herself did not do the trolling and it was a mistaken identity?

Also, Meghan is not widely disliked (on MN maybe). But not in the world. She has a lot of trolls, but most are viewed as being mentally unstable, tbh.

Bouzy is not targeting women. It so happens that most of the trolls are intact women.

rubicscubicle · 07/11/2021 11:38

And there you have it.

Someone writing a long post, saying that Meghan should not talk about her own experience, but should quote stats and research that is available to these people. How many pages is that letter, pray tell.

Also, the bill has come back to the table, thanks to her intervention.

rubicscubicle · 07/11/2021 11:45

As for the stupid trope that she only got White House invite because of her title. Then she must have some secret time machine to teleport herself back to 2015

Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan
Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan
rubicscubicle · 07/11/2021 11:53

I see Bouzy will be releasing the report soon.

I bet Angela Levin will be high on that list, at the rate she retweets the most absurd theories about Meghan.

twitter.com/KaindeB/status/1456603528345047047

Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan
Interesting analysis on social media about Meghan
AnnunciataZ · 07/11/2021 12:14

Was Angela Levin one of the reporters who have a scathing indictment of the Oprah interview without actually watching it first?

smilesy · 07/11/2021 13:05

Also, the bill has come back to the table, thanks to her intervention.

Wow. Nothing to do with this below then. All Meghan’s work 🙄

www.cnbc.com/2021/11/03/democrats-get-4-weeks-paid-leave-back-in-social-spending-bill-for-now.html

Roussette · 07/11/2021 13:09

No, that was RR's

Dickie Arbiter (Queen's former Press Secretary)
Ingrid Seward
Vicky Arbiter (no relation)
Richard Fitzwilliams

They made themselves look like complete and utter fools. Especially when they believed the line about MM saying in the OW she would refuse to have a covid jab, and her support for Balham Donkey Sanctuary 🤣

And still all four of them were scathing and knocked her... all before even seeing the interview!

AnnunciataZ · 07/11/2021 13:26

Dickie and Ingrid have been around for years and really should've known better.

The bit about the donkey sanctuary is hilarious, and as if Meghan would've announced she was declining the covid vaccine!

Roussette · 07/11/2021 13:30

It was funny to watch, when you just know they haven't seen it but are blathering away with stupid (and scathing) stuff about it like they have!

It sums up RR's for me. Waffle, make it up as you go along, fools.

BringBackThinEyebrows · 07/11/2021 13:53

@rubicscubicle

Are you saying that the woman who killed herself did not do the trolling and it was a mistaken identity?

Also, Meghan is not widely disliked (on MN maybe). But not in the world. She has a lot of trolls, but most are viewed as being mentally unstable, tbh.

Bouzy is not targeting women. It so happens that most of the trolls are intact women.

No, my post was very clear so I don't understand your point about mistaken identity. You're suggesting that it's OK if 'trolls' kill themselves?

Mental instability is not an insult to throw at people, it's a reason to approach a situation with sensitivity.

HeadNorth · 07/11/2021 18:16

What on earth has Meghan Markle got to do with a woman she has never mets tragic suicide? You can’t blame her for absolutely everything you know - I’m pretty sure she is also not responsible for Tory sleaze, the Taliban or covid or any other terrible events.

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