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Harry in the UK

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Mummy194 · 30/06/2021 19:08

Well Harry is looking quite good. Suntanned and healthy. The glow of new parent perhaps. Just seen his video on Diana awards and he looked so happy when visiting Wellchild too.

I'm sure his charities were happy to keep in touch with him.

www.wellchild.org.uk/2021/06/30/remarkable-young-people-and-professionals-from-across-the-uk-receive-national-wellchild-award-from-the-duke-of-sussex/

www.instagram.com/dianaaward/

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smilesy · 01/07/2021 11:28

No worries 😀

Roussette · 01/07/2021 12:10

Serenster Maybe read the whole article and how it was put together before calling it rubbish. Yes, validated research.

"The research involved various assets and methods including:

A database with 3 million entries. Every charity in England and Wales; every item in every set of financial statements it had reported in each of the last 25 years.
Many data-sheets each with several hundred thousand rows, e.g., to match every charity in the UK to its Parliamentary constituency; a list of all UK Parliamentary constituencies categorised by region; and data on the population of each constituency. We made this in order to compare the geographic distribution of patronee charities with that of the UK population, and of the UK population of charities (see chart below).
Six methods of two-way fixed-effects analyses. These are described in detail in the report."

I didn't mention Kate in the '8 years without a visit' by the way. Just so you know that.

ajandjjmum · 01/07/2021 12:46

@ForeverAintEnough3
Yes if someone posted that on mumsnet the advice would be a resounding LTB. Now let’s see what happened with Chelsea Davy hmmm oh yeah she dumped him

It was actually Cressida Bonas who he wanted to buy her own air ticket. Chelsy decided that much as she thought of him, she couldn't stomach the circus around being a member of the RF. She made the decision following Kate and Wills' wedding, when she saw what Kate had to tolerate.

Apparently.

Serenster · 01/07/2021 13:01

Oh, come now Roussette. Yes, you are quite right, your post did not mention Kate. You said:

”Read this link. 74% royal patronage charities did not get any visits in one given year. For others, it has been far longer than a year. Even 8 years for one charity”

If you read your link, as you extort us to do, you can see that the sixth paragraph states: In fact, most UK charities with Royal patrons did not get a single public engagement with their Royal patron last year: 74% of them got none. Only 1% of charities with Royal patrons got more than one public engagement with them last year. {In this video, it transpires that Kate hasn’t visited one of her patronee charities for eight years.}.

So, given that paragraph that matches the statistics you gave us, it seems fairly clear that you intended to refer to Kate as the Royal who hadn’t visited a charity for eight years.

Of course if that’s not the case, please do know let us know which specific Royal it was you were referring to there, and we will stand corrected.

The report may be very detailed. If they choose to make such sloppy errors, and refer to such dubious sources in their introduction however, readers are free to make up their own mind about their value.

(Also, it is utter common sense that the charities that have a Royal Patron don’t get a visit a year. The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh held over a thousand between them - see www.royal.uk/charities-and-patronages-1. Mathematically speaking each of would have needed to visit 1 or 2 most days to achieve that. Grin It’s one of the reasons why the younger generation of Royals have talked about taking on fewer patronages in order to be more visible in their roles).

Serenster · 01/07/2021 13:04

Gee, thanks autocorrect. I meant to say Roussette was exhorting us to read her link, not extorting us! Grin Grin Grin

Roussette · 01/07/2021 13:12

YOU drew attention to Kate. Not me. I purposely did not mention her in my post which was talking about every charity having yearly visits. I was illustrating frequency with a lengthy link.

please do know let us know which specific Royal it was you were referring to there, and we will stand corrected

Nowhere in my post with that link have I made this a personal dig at any member of the RF. That's you assuming I was when nothing could be further from that. I was talking about charity patronages and frequency of visits, in response to another poster.

It doesn't half hack me off when posters insist I was trying to do something that I really wasn't. Just because that might be a tactic of theirs, it doesn't mean to say it's a tactic of mine.

smilesy · 01/07/2021 13:15

The report does also concede that charities also receive “soft” benefits from having a royal patron, such as morale boosts with being associated with a royal which also presumably leads to public recognition (a bit like the Royal Warrant type of thing) 🤷‍♀️
@Serenster I did spot it before I posted, but earlier, autocorrect changed automatically to.. autocorrect. I think it’s trying to take over the world 🤣

smilesy · 01/07/2021 13:17

@Roussette I agree you were not drawing attention to Kate in that post. However, where Serenster may be getting confused is that you have used that link previously to draw attention to Kate.

Serenster · 01/07/2021 13:19

Given that Kate not visiting Action on Addiction for more than 8 years has (erroneously) been mentioned in these discussions many times (enough times for it to annoy me and go tot he trouble of correcting it twice so far), I’m not sure how you could claim that no-one would see that as a reference to her. Saying did not mention her name to avoid a dig when you cite the statistic and refer to the article that does name her comes across as completely disingenuous.

Anyway, I note in all this you haven’t acknowledged that you were plain wrong, either.

Roussette · 01/07/2021 13:38

smilesy

I actually haven't.

I linked that report a few days ago in talking about charity RF patronages and when I linked it I thought to myself 'ahh OK that's where that has come from ' when others have talked about it.

Absolutely not me.

Serenster Just call me a liar, it would be much more simple

You think I purposely mentioned the 8 years as a dig at Kate. I know what was in my head at the time and that was not the case because I was not talking about individual members of the RF, but about frequency of visits by them.

You will have to believe what you like.

And you can note what you like... that bit of the report may be incorrect but that doesn't mean to say the database with the other 3million entries were.

Anything else whilst you're on a roll disbelieving me?!

queenofarles · 01/07/2021 13:45

Forever Cressida story was back when Harry was very popular in the Press, no reason for it to be made up.
I’m actually surprised that people on here are taken by the idea that Harry is stingy or cheap, lots of RF members are. Confused

Mummy194 · 01/07/2021 14:06

Harry has always been briefed against from the palace.

He was William's lackey, who always takes the blame. He was portrayed as the playboy, unruly prince while W was the stately, sober minded King to be. He was always the one offered up.

I know a lot of people are of the view that was his role, but how they thought this charade was gonna carry on even when he grew up and got married is beyond me.

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Viviennemary · 01/07/2021 14:14

I disagree he was briefed against. He was beefed up if anything I'd say. Harry the compassionate. Everyone's friend. Action man. So popular. Such great rapport with people. He got very good press.

Oldbutstillgotit · 01/07/2021 14:17

Mummy194

Harry has always been briefed against from the palace.
He was William's lackey, who always takes the blame. He was portrayed as the playboy, unruly prince while W was the stately, sober minded King to be. He was always the one offered up.

I know a lot of people are of the view that was his role, but how they thought this charade was gonna carry on even when he grew up and got married is beyond me

Goodness , that’s quite a statement ! Do you have examples ? My view is that he was protected by the palace when he was younger.

queenofarles · 01/07/2021 14:23

Viviennemary thought so too, Mummy must live in a parallel universe Confused
On one of these threads someone said that they are familiar with the extensive PR that was on full drive after Harry was caught on camera using derogatory words.

Mummy194 · 01/07/2021 14:49

@queenofarles

Looks like your the one living in a parallel universe.

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Mummy194 · 01/07/2021 15:10

Did not think it's Diana's face, but it looks great, and I love the diversity.

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Roussette · 01/07/2021 15:25

It must be emotional for them.

SpindleWhorl · 01/07/2021 15:31

That is actually a cracking statue.

queenofarles · 01/07/2021 15:37

How many children are there 3?
I don’t think it looks anything like Diana TBH ,

FootballisComingHome · 01/07/2021 15:38

I really like that. It's classy, humble, and moving. Smile

Gorgeouslilgirl · 01/07/2021 15:39

I can’t say I like the statue all that much

stairway · 01/07/2021 15:39

I don’t like it, looks nothing like her and is a bit dull which she wasn’t.

Gorgeouslilgirl · 01/07/2021 15:39

And what’s with the big belt?!