Thoughts on Prince William's speech?

[Aspiringmatriarch]

I've been musing on this, I'm not sure I agree with the idea that the Bashir interview created a 'false narrative'. Obviously Diana was lied to, which is appalling, and I'm sure that fueled some of her paranoia but isn't it true that she was spied on at times e.g. with the squidgygate tapes? And she'd already collaborated with Andrew Morton saying many of the same things, and apparently wanted to do an interview after Charles gave his.

I don't know... it just feels odd to me that William is essentially asking for it to be struck from the record. He was apparently angry with her after the Bashir interview and was teased about it at school, which must have been horrible. Is he trying to protect her memory or is there an element of trying to tidy it all away?

That's a good one Puzzled love it!

There were some real corkers that woud be soooooo apt right now. Particularly relating to Johnson & Cummings who is about to spill the beans! Sir Humphrey would be beside himself!

William had to do it too and has managed not throw his family under the bus. Yes, it was dreadful and traumatic but it was over 23 years ago. It’s getting a bit old now

Not to be the thread police, but can we possibly not focus on Harry in just this one thread? Please?

@Aspiringmatriarch

William had to do it too and has managed not throw his family under the bus. Yes, it was dreadful and traumatic but it was over 23 years ago. It’s getting a bit old now

Not to be the thread police, but can we possibly not focus on Harry in just this one thread? Please?

Not really, when his behaviour is relevant it will be mentioned. And I don’t know why I’m being highlighted when I responded to several other pp who brought it up first. It’s pretty much inevitable that any thread on a Royal Family board is going to mention him.

Roussette I'm reminded of Maggie Thatcher's famous remark about the series: "That's not a sitcom, it's a bloody documentary!!"

Somehow it never ages, and I do love recommending it to American visitors who ask about our political system ... seems as good a guide as any, and a lot more realistic than some

I didn't read every post but saw yours being responded to. The thread is about a future monarch and more generally the status and constitutional role of the RF. Harry is such a hot-button topic atm it inevitably leads to derailment IMO.

I'm reminded of Maggie Thatcher's famous remark about the series: "That's not a sitcom, it's a bloody documentary!!"

Hahaha, I never knew that, spot on!
They should show it again but probably it's a bit too close to home!

Not really, when his behaviour is relevant it will be mentioned.
This isn’t about Harry with who you seem to be obsessed at slating at every opportunity ^Blossom*. I do t follow all the threads about the RF but in every thread I read, you post negatively and continuously about Harry and Meghan. It’s unhealthy when even strangers on the internet can recognise you doing this.

Hi @Taketheredpill - it's usual for the subject of a factual documentary or even the subject of a biography to retain copyright over "their" story and the way their image is used. It's also possible for the copyright owner to waive their rights (but rarely ever do).

I can't find any references to the copyright owner of the Diana/Bashir interview. Unless she waived her rights, Diana would have held it during her lifetime. I'd be interested to know who holds the copyright now.

It’s unhealthy when even strangers on the internet can recognise you doing this

It would be extremely unhealthy if it were true.

@Snugglepiggy

I don't see Camilla as the villain. Nothing is as black and white.I think we all know plenty of divorced people who never should have married in the first place.I think she and Charles are far better suited and his marriage to Diana was doomed from the start for a myriad if reasons.Their personalities for a start.And Diana was already a very mixed up individual as result of her parents dysfunctional marriage.That is not to say I don't feel huge sympathy for the way she was duped by MB and the way she died and the impact on her sons.

This . I don't see Csmilla as the villain either . Diana was very very capable of manipulation of the narrative.

I'm not sure why @Roussette's comment was deleted when she was just defending herself but there's really no need for personal attacks.

Thanks AnnunciataZ

I did ask MNHQ for my post to be deleted, because it was quite personal to me, and about me. And I didn't want it to escalate, given my anger was somewhat evident in defending myself against an unwarranted and nasty attack.

Rous** I reported the post attacking you.

It seems to have completely disappeared rather than deleted

itsgettingwierd
Thank you I'm just glad it's gone

I've always said ... if you can't get your point across without personally attacking someone, you really don't have a point.

@Blossomtoes

And it did affect William. He's said as much himself

Of course it did, I acknowledged that it was traumatic and devastating for both of them but he’s managed not to throw his family under the bus - want to discuss the point I actually made?

William or more specifically, William's employees following orders has been throwing his little brother under the bus for years.

It's a striking level of arrogance to have thought Harry would simply put up with it forever - and even allow his wife and children to suffer the same.

William is raging as his scapegoat has escaped and now he is exposed with no diversion.

William or more specifically, William's employees following orders has been throwing his little brother under the bus for years

Has he? It didn’t look like that to me. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

I can't find any references to the copyright owner of the Diana/Bashir interview. Unless she waived her rights, Diana would have held it during her lifetime. I'd be interested to know who holds the copyright now.

Interesting.

She left her engagement ring to Harry (who gifted it to William to give to Kate), so perhaps she left the copyright to Harry also?

Perhaps that's why William is being so forceful about the interview - if Harry owns it.

@Blossomtoes

William or more specifically, William's employees following orders has been throwing his little brother under the bus for years

Has he? It didn’t look like that to me. Perhaps you could enlighten me.

The palace/KP requests that damaging stories about William are held back in exchange for a nasty story about Harry. Been going on for years, including across that time William was/is having totally innocent dinner dates, a deux.

Rousette. You didn't deserve that attack in the slightest, and I'm glad you put them right!

The palace/KP requests that damaging stories about William are held back in exchange for a nasty story about Harry. Been going on for years, including across that time William was/is having totally innocent dinner dates, a deux.

I've heard this as well. It's hard to know for sure though, isn't it? But there are certainly a few rumblings on Twitter from a few people who seem to be privy to it.

@PicsInRed

I can't find any references to the copyright owner of the Diana/Bashir interview. Unless she waived her rights, Diana would have held it during her lifetime. I'd be interested to know who holds the copyright now.

Interesting.

She left her engagement ring to Harry (who gifted it to William to give to Kate), so perhaps she left the copyright to Harry also?

Perhaps that's why William is being so forceful about the interview - if Harry owns it.

Why would the engagement ring have any relation to who any copyright was left to? Surely she left them both a variety of things?

I posted this on another thread but it might be of interest here. Sunday Times journalist tweeted and deleted it a couple of days ago. I tend to think there have been shenanigans of some sort, but it's all kept very quiet.

Aspiring Thank you
Sorry it derailed your thread, albeit temporarily. Even though we have people on different sides of the fence (or even different fences in different streets!), it is proving to be an interesting informative discussion.