HRH The Prince Philip Funeral

[IamnotH]

Watching on BBC 1. Wish Huw would shut up and let us listen to the bands/watch them March.

The Queen isn't alone at all.
Why her lady in waiting couldn't have sat with her I'm not sure, but maybe there was a lot of thought of how things might come across because of the covid restrictions and it might have caused a bit of a backlash if she had sat with someone? I don't think they could win really with this situation as it is. In normal times she would have sat with her family around her. She has had them around the whole time and will continue to do so. It's sad, but very elderly people do die and I'm sure she is pragmatic enough to realize that nobody lives forever of course! It isn't a tragedy , it's just life.

As for these 'mock up pictures' they do , I think they are horrible personally.

I was brought up by parents of the Queen’s generation who considered it inappropriate to show emotion in public. I didn’t shed a tear at either of their funerals - I’m sure other people thought I was a heartless bitch

Not the understanding ones, Alsohuman
I was raised similarly and held it together during my beloved mum's funeral; I even smiled when handing out the drinks at her wake, which bore no resemblance at all to how I was actually feeling
What did get me was when her best friend - the last to leave - hugged me and said quietly "well done"

Sometimes, people see more than we expect ...

@Alsohuman

have any of you actually read what he's said to people over the years?

Yes. And the context. Which you evidently haven’t.

You seem obsessed with 'contextualising' PP's remarkable lifelong run of 'gaffes', which is clearly how bad manners and xenophobia, when not outright racism, are rebranded if you're the royal family's PR.

Why a random on the internet might be so invested in 'contextualising' PP's witticisms is a bit more unfathomable.

That picture is awful. This equally tacky display is doing the rounds on our social media community group

@SunshineCake

It was said that the card said In Loving Memory but it was hard to see.

I think it will be King William and Queen Catherine. I can't see King William any Queen Consort Catherine went to X engagement today.

It was quite correct we didn't see the Duke's coffin completely disappear. Just seeing a small part of the start of the lowering was enough. The

They showed very nearly all of it on the one I saw, just the final part that wasn't visible.

It felt as if, when the piper went through the final door into the open air he piped Prince Philips’s soul out into the ether.

You seem obsessed with 'contextualising' PP's remarkable lifelong run of 'gaffes', which is clearly how bad manners and xenophobia, when not outright racism, are rebranded if you're the royal family's PR.

Exactly this

@Salthead

It felt as if, when the piper went through the final door into the open air he piped Prince Philips’s soul out into the ether.

I completely agree, an incredibly moving and atmospheric few minutes. Simple and memorable.

@Salthead

It felt as if, when the piper went through the final door into the open air he piped Prince Philips’s soul out into the ether.

Gave me shivers as it faded.

Those pictures are so tasteless.

puzzled

I’d love your mum’s best friend quietly in my heart forever after that.

To see what is not clearly evident means that she cares more than you know.

@FlattestWhite

I don't think age or expectation really changes the grief you feel in the moment, especially at a funeral. Several of them clearly were upset, and I imagine the queen will have been too, but she's so used to keeping her feelings to herself in public, and probably didn't show as much as she felt. It's not always just about the person who is gone, either; it brings up feelings about change in general, the emptiness of someone being gone, time passing, your own mortality, memories of other funerals, thoughts of people close to you dying in the future, etc. It's a whole mix of emotions that make up the grief.

Totally agree with this.

When you lose someone you love, even if they are very old, and have been very ill, and their death was expected, and you think you're prepared for it - you aren't!

It still hits you like a ton of bricks!

@SpringtimeSummertime

I’m hating all the ‘lonely’ tabloid headlines today.

Someone edited the picture - I like it in one way but it unsettles me in another... What do people think?

The message is: Our loved ones don’t leave us, they are with us every day.

It's not my think - it smacks more of mawkish sentimentality to me.

I do agree that as long as someone lives on in our hearts, they rent truly "dead". but I can't be doing with this sort of hi-jacking of someone's personal grief.

It's trite and intrusive.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

That picture is awful. This equally tacky display is doing the rounds on our social media community group

Oh Lord!

That is awful.

When you lose someone you love, even if they are very old, and have been very ill, and their death was expected, and you think you're prepared for it - you aren't!

Exactly this! Tbh, I think the narrative that just because the death was anticipated to some degree and because you are old and perhaps frail in some way, your grief isn't as acute as it would be if you were younger, is not only ageist, but insensitive and unimaginative in the extreme.

And it doesn't matter how many people are around you - or not - you still long for the individual that has died.

It's also quite impertinent (I think anyway) to speculate whether someone is "relieved" or not when someone dies. There may be an element of relief that they are no longer suffering, but that is mixed with a very strong and (probably somewhat selfish) wish to see them again, hold their hand, and just for them to be there again, that can be overwhelming at times.

Im way too over invested in this. Its taken me quite by surprise. I keep wondering how Charles etc will try to make peace, yet not pander, to Harry. For the life of me I can't imagine how they'll achieve this.

@Germolenequeen

Yes. And the context. Which you evidently haven’t.

Rubbish - there is no context that can excuse the vile comments he made over the years

There is and it’s been repeated here endlessly over the last week or so but you carry on. It just makes you look stupid.

@Puzzledandpissedoff, thank you. That made me well up a bit. Your mother’s friend sounds wonderful.

No idea where the female symbol came from but no harm with all the misogynistic comments 😬

@Germolenequeen

No idea where the female symbol came from but no harm with all the misogynistic comments 😬

What misogynist comments?

The ones he made - do try & keep up

Do try not to be so rude. It’s entirely unnecessary.

@Germolenequeen

No idea where the female symbol came from but no harm with all the misogynistic comments 😬

The man who encouraged his daughter in everything she did. That type of misogyny?

'It felt as if, when the piper went through the final door into the open air he piped Prince Philips’s soul out into the ether.'

Yes it was mesmerising wasn't it. The turn and the slow walk out of the chapel 😥

I’m finding it interesting even thinking about the monarchy and succession and how it all works. Recent years have been all about sordid tabloid awful scandalous stuff. This feels a bit like going back to earlier times (for me 70s) when there was gossip and scandal but balanced by constitutional stuff too. When we seemed all to know more about the wider family etc.