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Prince William wants cousin Zara Tindall to help weather royal staffing storm

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Postapocalypticcowgirl · 17/04/2021 12:12

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/prince-william-wants-cousin-zara-5304916

Obviously this is all rumour and speculation, but I thought it was interesting.

I can see all the reasons why William might want Zara involved in the future- although I know she's said in the past she's glad not to be a HRH or titled.

But if true, this suggests that Andrew's family are pretty much on the out when the Queen dies? Which is interesting?

Personally, I can't see this actually working out the way the article suggested, but it's interesting such articles are even being floated, I think?

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felulageller · 17/04/2021 12:57

It's likely George will be an adult by the time Charles is king so he can start working.

I don't think any of them should be HRHs apart from Charles William and George. The rest should pay for themselves.

Creepygnochi · 17/04/2021 13:00

The Cambridge's are very close to the Tindalls'

SoupDragon · 17/04/2021 13:03

It's likely George will be an adult by the time Charles is king so he can start working.

He is 7 and the queen is 94. I wish her well but I don't think George will be 18 when Charles becomes king!

MindyStClaire · 17/04/2021 13:13

It doesn't look like the most reputable source, but I can see the point that Zara and Mike would be popular.

It does speak to the pointlessness of a hereditary monarchy if the lowest ranked cousin is the most suited to the job.

ChessieFL · 17/04/2021 13:17

I think it’s because William and Zara are very close in age and spent a lot of time together when younger so are close. The York sisters are younger so William isn’t as close to them.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 13:23

I think it’s a nonsense. Even just the line about Mike Tindall being on the funeral guest list showing how highly thought of he is is absolutely nonsense - all of the spouses of grandchildren are invited.

Zara has a career and young family. She’s got the best of both worlds as she has a lot of the perks of being part of the family with none of the downsides. No chance she’ll trade that in.

SelkieIntegrated · 17/04/2021 13:24

I think Beatrice and Eugenie are titled and would be pissed off if ribbon cutting duties were given to Zara, who isn't even keen to do it.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 13:28

@SelkieIntegrated

I think Beatrice and Eugenie are titled and would be pissed off if ribbon cutting duties were given to Zara, who isn't even keen to do it.
Their father has snookered any chance of them doing anything ever.

If he hadn’t then there’s a small chance that maybe one or both of them would have been asked to do a couple of things to help fill the Harry & Meghan gap, but not a chance now. They’re tainted by him

SelkieIntegrated · 17/04/2021 13:32

Yes, he wanted them to be allowed roles but he's scuppered that for them.

Although they are probably less keen to be involved now than they were approx 5 years ago. Both married now, one a mother, one a step mother. They are probably more at peace with not being given royal duties now!

Pinkywoo · 17/04/2021 13:40

The only reason Andrew and his children are above Anne and her offspring is the outdated rule which put boys before girls in the line of succession. If this had been overturned earlier (rather than when Charlotte was born) then Zara and Eugenie/Beatrice's places would be switched.

BriocheForBreakfast · 17/04/2021 13:43

"It's likely George will be an adult by the time Charles is king so he can start working."

I doubt it. The Queen turns 95 soon and I doubt she'll be our monarch until she's 106. Despite her great health.

UsedUpUsername · 17/04/2021 13:43

@MindyStClaire

It doesn't look like the most reputable source, but I can see the point that Zara and Mike would be popular.

It does speak to the pointlessness of a hereditary monarchy if the lowest ranked cousin is the most suited to the job.

Always has been. Maybe Anne was the most suitable from that generation and her kids the most suitable in the following generation and so on and so forth 😂
fizbosshoes · 17/04/2021 13:44

I thought Anne requested her children were not HRH.
I cant imagine why Zara Tindall would give up the relative freedoms she has as a non titled member of the RF.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 13:46

@fizbosshoes

I thought Anne requested her children were not HRH. I cant imagine why Zara Tindall would give up the relative freedoms she has as a non titled member of the RF.
She didn’t request they weren’t HRH, they weren’t entitled to it. She turned down a title for her husband, which would have given rhe children titles (similar to Princess Margaret who didn’t turn down the husband title).
Dobbyafreeelf · 17/04/2021 13:51

@JustLyra why would Andrew's actions (alleged) have any bearing on what his children may or may not be able to do royalty wise?🤷🏼‍♀️ are they to be blamed for the sins of their father?
And actually Princess Anne did choose not to give her children titles. No they were not officially entitled to a title but the queen did offer. She chose not to accept!

phodopus · 17/04/2021 13:52

It would seem quite unfair to exclude Beatrice and Eugenie if more working royals are needed and they're willing to do engagements. I understand the Prince Andrew association isn't great, but surely the public are intelligent enough to realise that the daughters are different people to their parents? They have both done good work for various causes.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 13:55

It will impact it because (rightly or wrongly) the girls have been been seen as lazy over the years. All the articles about their holidays and their spending habits. They’ve been caught up by their fathers sense of entitlement in terms of how the public view them.

The PR recently with Andrew and Harry has been a nightmare for the royals so they’re going to play it cautious and conservative and adding in the two girls who (again rightly or wrongly) have been impacted by his actions and alleged actions just isn’t going to happen.

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 13:56

That’s not what I think btw, as someone with horrific parents I feel sorry for them. But I think there’s not a cat in hells chance they’ll be working royals after everything.

Dobbyafreeelf · 17/04/2021 14:03

@JustLyra

It will impact it because (rightly or wrongly) the girls have been been seen as lazy over the years. All the articles about their holidays and their spending habits. They’ve been caught up by their fathers sense of entitlement in terms of how the public view them.

The PR recently with Andrew and Harry has been a nightmare for the royals so they’re going to play it cautious and conservative and adding in the two girls who (again rightly or wrongly) have been impacted by his actions and alleged actions just isn’t going to happen.

@JustLyra your talking rubbish!!! Both are working full time and have forged their own independent careers. Neither are living off the crown. Andrew pays their security but that's it.

Perhaps it's time to stop getting your facts from the daily mail?!!!

JustLyra · 17/04/2021 14:06

@Dobbyafreeelf Are you always so aggressive?

I didn’t say they lived off the crown. I said the public perception of their father having a sense of entitlement has impacted how they are seen.

I also very specifically said that’s not what I think, it’s what I think public perception is and partly why they’ll never be working royals after his antics

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Dobbyafreeelf · 17/04/2021 14:15

[quote JustLyra]@Dobbyafreeelf Are you always so aggressive?

I didn’t say they lived off the crown. I said the public perception of their father having a sense of entitlement has impacted how they are seen.

I also very specifically said that’s not what I think, it’s what I think public perception is and partly why they’ll never be working royals after his antics[/quote]
Aggressive? 😂😂😂 your the one spouting nonsense!

diddl · 17/04/2021 14:44

Perhaps instead of co opting more in they should tailor the "workload" to those who are available?

dottiedodah · 17/04/2021 15:06

I think as above PP explained PA chose not to have titles for her DC.Also they are not on the Civil List and have to earn their own living .Therefore unlikely this would happen I think . After all King George (The Queens Father)had to take on a lot of Royal duties himself when Edward 7th abdicated suddenly in the 1930s .