Prince William wants cousin Zara Tindall to help weather royal staffing storm

[Postapocalypticcowgirl]

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/celebs-tv/prince-william-wants-cousin-zara-5304916

Obviously this is all rumour and speculation, but I thought it was interesting.

I can see all the reasons why William might want Zara involved in the future- although I know she's said in the past she's glad not to be a HRH or titled.

But if true, this suggests that Andrew's family are pretty much on the out when the Queen dies? Which is interesting?

Personally, I can't see this actually working out the way the article suggested, but it's interesting such articles are even being floated, I think?

If Charles and Diana had had a traditionally large brood of Royal children this would be less of a problem, but its less socially acceptable to have ours of kids these days so that might have attracted criticism too.

That's true and maybe if there marriage was happier they would have. But they can't exactly turn the clock back. And I'd think they'd probably Op for different partners if they could.

I think the Beatrice and Eugenie ship has sailed. Both have husbands with commercial interests, which is a known sticking point, and they don’t have the best rep in terms of work ethic. And that’s leaving the Prince Andrew association aside.

I really can’t see Zara and Mike wanting to do it.

This might be a bit left-field, but I wonder about Louise. She’s been in front of the camera with her parents a couple of times when they were looking at the flowers and talking to the press, which I was a bit surprised about. She seemed very composed and quite comfortable to be there. Sophie and Edward are well though of in the family and very likely to take on more duties, so she could start off accompanying them to learn the ropes. No spouse issues and she would be starting with a completely clean slate.

Reading this thread makes me sad that Princess Anne isn’t going to be the next monarch. She is eminently the most suitable and respectable royal of the next generation.

I hope Australia becomes a republic when Charles becomes king.

The whole system of hereditary monarchy, press and paparazzi scrutiny and public sycophancy from royalists and derision from republicans is a toxic environment for kids to grow in and for adults to live with. Whilst I am sure the vast amounts of money do go some way to salve the pain, I don't blame any member of the family from wanting to keep a few steps away from the limelight, and protect their children from its damaging effects. I agree that reducing the workload is better than drumming up more enthusiasm for family members to take on the roles.

Whilst there is always a need for noteworthy people to headline special events, hold honorary roles for organisations, and represent the country in international relationships, there is no intrinsic need for these people to be selected on the basis of their genetics. If there are fewer royals in the public eye then the relative importance of other non-royal publicly visible people increases in public perception. We have no shortage of people who have admirable traits and achievements. Organisations will have no trouble adapting to a reduction in the availability of royalty.

as for William not being King for 25 years - it's highly unlikely as Charles is already 72 and doesn't look as though he'll have the Queen's longevity.

Interested in this. Both his parents have been very healthy and longlived. Why would Charles not have inherited their good genes and (presumably) healthy lifestyle?

When Charles got covid, there didn't seem to be the same amount concern for his heath compared to when Johnson got covid even though Charles is 15+ years older.

The view was that Charles was fit and in good health and had taken care of himself.

I think a lot of the downplaying of Charles getting covid was to try not attract anymore attention to the fact he'd travelled with symptoms.

@JustLyra

I think a lot of the downplaying of Charles getting covid was to try not attract anymore attention to the fact he'd travelled with symptoms.

Or because he had a milder case than Boris, not requiring hospitalisation. It's one of the features of the disease - such a toss-up in how badly you get it and in whether you get it long

(I thought he travelled just before symptoms?)

(I thought he travelled just before symptoms?)

It was very woolly. He had symptoms "over the weekend". Travelled Sunday and was tested Monday.

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Gloucestershire has a number of houses where members of the Royal Family live, so not surprising that local journalists want to engage in what is pure speculation.

I think the change to end male primogeniture should have been such that the Princess Royal and her children/grandchildren were higher in line before the Duke of York and his children/grandchild, but I don't think that affects this possible issue.

Watched the programme about Beatrice and Eugenie recently. I was actually surprised how much charity work they do do, outside their jobs. The press have maligned them in the past, and I don’t disagree they have made mistakes, but they were also soft targets for the press. However, they seemed to have matured now.

The only thorn in the side is the Prince Andrew link.

Charles and William should make a deal with Andrew. If he 1) speaks to the FBI, 2) renounces all connection to public life, the girls can be full-time princesses.

@StartupRepair

Charles and William should make a deal with Andrew. If he 1) speaks to the FBI, 2) renounces all connection to public life, the girls can be full-time princesses.

That's assuming that the girls would want to be full-time. Eugenie has just had a baby, Beatrice is only just married so probably thinking about becoming a mum.

But given the Andrew link I really think their chances are gone. Imagine in 20 years time young adults looking them up the same way as we look up the Kents and Gloucesters in a "who are they" and the stuff about their Dad keeps popping up? .

Zara and Peter their mum has a good reputation, Zara has just had a baby too so again may not be interested.

But I can certainly see the attraction to Zara and Peter over B&E from a long-term perspective.

If there are fewer royals in the public eye then the relative importance of other non-royal publicly visible people increases in public perception. We have no shortage of people who have admirable traits and achievements. Organisations will have no trouble adapting to a reduction in the availability of royalty

^This. There's been a natural slimming down of the monarchy, let's keep it like that.

There's not a cat in hell's chance Zara and Mike Tindall will be doing royal duties! She has a life of freedom, she has a job as Director of Cheltenham Racecourse. She has always lived outside the RF doing her own thing. Not in a million years.

Nor B&E because of their father, unfair though that might be.

Peter? Hahaha no.... he's happy to cash in on the RF with his advert on Chinese TV for milk with a palace in the background. But no to anything else.

Let's just keep it slimmed down and cut down the patronages if necessary as the excellent quoted post above suggests. There are some very worthy people out there to take over who aren't royal.

why do we need more?
wouldn't it be better if the ones we have did something? W&K seem to do very little.

Agree Samcro we don't!

Charles should be pleased, he doesn't have to do a cutting back exercise himself, it's happened naturally and that's the way it should be.

@newnortherner111

Gloucestershire has a number of houses where members of the Royal Family live, so not surprising that local journalists want to engage in what is pure speculation.

I think the change to end male primogeniture should have been such that the Princess Royal and her children/grandchildren were higher in line before the Duke of York and his children/grandchild, but I don't think that affects this possible issue.

I think you’re right on point two, but it wouldn’t have been fair on the individuals involved - they just haven’t been equipped for it as they grew up. The ‘training’ starts practically from birth, even if subtly, and they’ve simply not had that opportunity.

@AnyOldPrion

as for William not being King for 25 years - it's highly unlikely as Charles is already 72 and doesn't look as though he'll have the Queen's longevity.

Interested in this. Both his parents have been very healthy and longlived. Why would Charles not have inherited their good genes and (presumably) healthy lifestyle?

And their access to the best of everything including medical care which is often the divider at that age.

@diddl

Perhaps instead of co opting more in they should tailor the "workload" to those who are available?

Yes this, and pick up more of it themselves.

Neither of them have ever come close to Anne, Philip or the Queene in terms of work ethic and engagements

@newnortherner111

Gloucestershire has a number of houses where members of the Royal Family live, so not surprising that local journalists want to engage in what is pure speculation.

I think the change to end male primogeniture should have been such that the Princess Royal and her children/grandchildren were higher in line before the Duke of York and his children/grandchild, but I don't think that affects this possible issue.

I think backdating it would have made it complicated because how far back do you backdate it?

As it was no living senior royal was impacted in terms of place changes and the Queen’s great-grandchildren would be under the new rule.

W&K seem to do very little tbh. Does anyone know - when they're pictured making a call to eg a hospital or charity, is that classed as an engagement?

Lady Louise and her brother for that matter do have the option of taking up their HRH at age 18 although Sophie has said its unlikely to happen, Louise is 17.

@Forestiere

W&K seem to do very little tbh. Does anyone know - when they're pictured making a call to eg a hospital or charity, is that classed as an engagement?

I think it must be...

www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/this-royal-worked-the-hardest-in-2020-and-it-might-not-be-who-youd-expect/