Shame on Andrew and his demands

[cyclingmad]

At a time when the Queen has lost her partner, he is making demands about uniform. Its the last thing she provablg cares about.

Well he hasn't returned to public duty yet not has his named been cleared so where does he get off demanding to be promoted up to Admiral and wear the uniform.

And I'm not sure why anyone thinks Harry is being petulant and entitled given he knows he can't wear uniform. But hey... he hasn't been criticised lately...

Hang on, I'm confused. Isn't it Meghan's fault?? I'm not sure why, but there must be a reason she's stopped the Queen from letting the kids wear their uniforms

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@Abraxan

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I gathered. I was being humourous. Clearly it succeeded.

So of we are saying we won't know if its true or not then isnt that the same as lots of other stories about RF esp Harry and Meghan over the years where its pure speculation. Yet the masses believe its true.

I think I fail to understand why some are so determined to believe the stories of two people and not the rest. Its smacks of hypocrisy.

@Roussette

And I'm not sure why anyone thinks Harry is being petulant and entitled given he knows he can't wear uniform. But hey... he hasn't been criticised lately...

You’ll find your answer to that in the same somewhere that you read about the uniform thing being made up. HTH.

@cyclingmad

So of we are saying we won't know if its true or not then isnt that the same as lots of other stories about RF esp Harry and Meghan over the years where its pure speculation. Yet the masses believe its true.

I think I fail to understand why some are so determined to believe the stories of two people and not the rest. Its smacks of hypocrisy.

And don’t forget all the people that fail to believe the factual stories and interviews that come out. Some idiots still believe Harry and Meghan did get married three days before they did because it was “their truth” and that means it’s not a lie. Ludicrous!

You’ll find your answer to that in the same somewhere that you read about the uniform thing being made up. HTH

Please enlighten me, I honestly do not understand. He was never going to wear uniform. How can he be entitled and petulant when he's not involved in this. If there is a story, it's about Andrew, not Harry.

The decision about uniform will have been all about Andrew, not Harry, imo.

Peter Philips won’t be wearing uniform so Harry wouldn’t have been alone in a suit. The decision over Harry’s outfit was a simple one; he has no military appointments therefore he has no uniform.

Andrew is a different kettle of fish. Technically atm he has military appointments and he hasn’t been convicted of anything.

Not letting him wear the uniform he’d technically be able to would be a big statement. Equally letting him wear it knowing the public (and likely the military) wouldn’t be impressed is also a big statement.

This way there’s no statement either way.

@JustLyra I agree the issue is Andrew. Harry knows he's not entitled too uniform. Andrew still is but has a big cloud.

He really needs to speak with the FBI and try to properly clear his name if possible.

I feel a bit sorry for harry. He seems to be the family scapegoat. The issue with the uniform is clearly Andrew. But Harry is getting the blame. Pathetic really.

At first it was all about Andrew the one demanding it, then funny how a day or two later its now Andrew and Harry demanded it.

Since they know Harry will get end up being blamed no matter what ao easy to throw him into the mix.

This is precisely the bs they left the UK and who can blame them. Who on earth wants to put up with false information constantly being published about themselves and some of it coming from leaks by sources from the Palace

I seriously think the RF need to shut that down, there should be zero leaks. There should not be anyone who is vilified by the press unless they have done something heinous and criminal. They most certainly stop this old age rule of not commenting on stories and say enough is enough.

If they are going to spout about mental Helston then protect the mental health of your family and correct the false media stories.

I noticed that Prince Philip's "friend" and alleged lover Penny Brabourne will attend the funeral. I'm not sure if she's wearing a uniform or not.

I very much doubt that a man who planned for his coffin to be delivered in the back of a Land Rover wanted a massive ceremonial do with everyone in their fancy military outfits.

Practical yes, but he seemed proud of the Navy and will have his hat on top of the coffin. I wouldn't assume he'd have wanted morning suits.

Who is mental Helston?

@OppsUpsSide

Who is mental Helston?

I assume "mental health"

Like often happens some posters have run away with a point that wasn't made.

Nothing I have read has said Harry is demanding anything. It's been Andrew.

However per the solution (no one wears a uniform) commentators have noted as well as sorting Andrew out it has the added bonus of not highlighting Harry's situation of an army vet but now with no military positions not wearing a uniform (although like any vet can wear his medals) - it's not harry demanding it's not about doing anything to him but prior to his exit had Philip died he would have had right to wear a uniform - following Oprah and the maybe strained relationship with his brother/ dad - for Harry, this solution allows the change in his status to not be a focal point.

I'm sure Harry is sad about his grandad and keen to get back to his family to support his wife as she reaches the end of her pregnancy (there's always that fear of the baby coming early etc even if no remote reason why it should, or maybe that was just me and my DH!) and this stuff doesn't matter one jot but reflectively he doesn't have to deal with the ' I should/could have been in uniform' or irritation of every reporter pointing his change in status out (though sure he would care or would have expected that anyway)

So unless someone can link to something to refute my point - no one is saying Harry is demanding, moaning etc it's said to be Andrew (and who knows if that is true) and Harry has just been tagged into how the solution 'benefits' him.

Not everything is a Harry bash you know when mentioning him

Various press elements are going to jump on anything to do with Harry if they can

A few are going down the route of trying to pretend that Peter Philips has been put in between the brothers to keep them apart in the procession - completely ignoring that in these kinds of processions be middle person is the most senior and Peter is the eldest grandson. The order that the Queen and Philip’s own children are walking in (Charles and Anne, followed by Andrew and Edward) show that the family are walking in age order, not order of succession

So unless someone can link to something to refute my point - no one is saying Harry is demanding, moaning etc it's said to be Andrew (and who knows if that is true) and Harry has just been tagged into how the solution 'benefits' him.

Oh, there definitely has been speculation in the tabloids that Harry wanted to wear his Blues and Royal uniform that he wore to his wedding. I don't know if it is true or not. I can understand why he might be upset as he actually did serve in the military, but isn't entitled to wear the uniform anymore. I do agree that it seems the issue is probably more Andrew and his hopes of getting back into the spotlight.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9474429/Royal-experts-blast-Prince-Harry-Andrews-shameful-tantrums-Philip-funeral-uniform-row.html

Even the BBC called the uniform thing the “Harry and Andrew problem”.

Yes, in the past all senior Royals have been in military uniform except Edward and no one seemed bothered by this. This is specifically about how aggrieved Harry was to lose his military titles and Andrew being an opportunist prick. I don't think it's correct to say that Harry wouldn't be bothered.

I read this slightly differently to everyone else. I read that Harry couldn't wear the uniform because he is no longer entitled and Andrew kicked off because he wanted to wear the Admiral uniform (or medals I am not sure) he would have gotten on his 60th that he didn't get because it was not appropriate.

At first as PP it was Andrew kicking off (which I can believe) and then it got lumped in with Harry. I do wonder how much longer he is going to be the scapegoat for Andrew

I feel if it was just the Andrew problem, he'd get told by The Queen and that would be the end of it. I don't know if the Harry problem is stemming from harry himself or whether The Royal Family are nervous about a PR disaster. They must be very aware that seeing the boys walking behind a coffin will remind people of Diana's funeral. The RF are very keen to avoid it looking like they are ostracizing Harry. It's a shame that Philip's funeral has been over-shadowed by all this drama, but I think no uniforms and having the boys walking apart is the best solution.

Prince Andrew is a spoilt manchild, I think.