Would it really be so impossible for Harry to get a job?

[thebabessavedme]

Seriously, He has had an Eton and University education, He must have an incredible contacts file Could he really not have found some suitable employment to help fund his family without resorting to reality tv? I'm thinking maybe Bonhams/Southerbys as an art expert sort of gig (with training obvs) Give himself a pupose in life?, a reason to get up in morning? No more need for dads money?

A few of them do seem to have jobs, so why not him?

Yes, the Spotify podcast was mega cringe, l can’t see that going much further.
Will be interesting seeing what they do next work wise.

[quote Lockdownbear]@GoLightlyontheEarth do you not think Netflix could pull the plug on their MH documentary after the comments that he didn't know how to get his wife help?[/quote]
You would think so but are Netflix steaming it? I thought it was an Apple production?

The thing is that Meghan is a grown woman. Why does she need other people to ‘get her help’? Can’t she pick up the phone and call a therapist herself?

It’s really confusing, her Mum Doria was a Social Worker in a mental health clinic.
So her Mum had contacts and experience of Mental Health and Harry had direct experience of mental health treatment as he had been in therapy for about 7 years.
Harry was also patron of a mental health charity.
I just don’t know how Meghans team of Doctors and midwife didn’t pick anything up at all. I thought the medical profession were supposed to be hot of new Mums and depression theses days.
It’s all so sad.

@RubyViolet

It’s really confusing, her Mum Doria was a Social Worker in a mental health clinic. So her Mum had contacts and experience of Mental Health and Harry had direct experience of mental health treatment as he had been in therapy for about 7 years. Harry was also patron of a mental health charity. I just don’t know how Meghans team of Doctors and midwife didn’t pick anything up at all. I thought the medical profession were supposed to be hot of new Mums and depression theses days. It’s all so sad.

It just doesn’t add up.

@GoLightlyontheEarth

The thing is that Meghan is a grown woman. Why does she need other people to ‘get her help’? Can’t she pick up the phone and call a therapist herself?

Because she was being held prisoner like Rapunzel, they took her car keys and her passport all for safe keeping.

Maybe she was trying to keep it quiet from Harry. Maybe her recollection varies and she didn't ask, or maybe she just doesn't remember the answer.

Keep it quiet from her husband but blab to the globe?

She said she handed over her passport and you can't just 'call an Uber' and that she was trapped in the palace.

But what about the baby shower in America and holidays abroad....how did she escape?

How does Kate make it out to Sainsbury's and The Range?

Diana managed it. She was often out and about, meeting friends for lunch or going to the gymn.

If your partner had only left the house twice in four months, wouldn't you notice? Where is Harry in all this? Why is his wife going to HR instead of him for help? Why couldn't he teach her the national anthem? Why didn't he tell her about the 'slimmed-down monarchy'? (Something which his father has been planning for decades and which should have been seen as a plus for a couple wanting to live a more normal life.) He's either completely unapproachable or totally self-absorbed. (Or the whole thing is rubbish.)

I did not know that about Doria. Pigging hell this gets more ridiculous

On the point of the passport, my friend's brother-in-law was a top-flight football player and his club held his passport, not because he was being held hostage but because they arranged everything for him. Let's just say he never had to pay a bill or call a call-centre. If he needed his passport, some poor flunky would bring it to the required destination for him.

As an American national in London being held against her will, surely she could have called the American Embassy for help?

I can't figure out why she went to HR either.

Who was she expecting to sign off the order / requisition so the private councillor could bill the palace, the Queen herself?

While Harry is behind Charles and William in the official pecking order. Do you think Anne has more or less influence than William?
Where does Harry fit in the unofficial pecking order?

I now have visions over the Senior Royals sitting round a table having arguments over who should do which tours!

I'm seriously suffering lockdown boredom. I've never thought this much about the RF ever.

I am starting to think that Meghan has a husband problem 🤔

@EsmaCannonball

If your partner had only left the house twice in four months, wouldn't you notice? Where is Harry in all this? Why is his wife going to HR instead of him for help? Why couldn't he teach her the national anthem? Why didn't he tell her about the 'slimmed-down monarchy'? (Something which his father has been planning for decades and which should have been seen as a plus for a couple wanting to live a more normal life.) He's either completely unapproachable or totally self-absorbed. (Or the whole thing is rubbish.)

I think he has a serious aversion to telling her things she doesn’t want to hear.

Did he not tell her, or did she not listen?

Was she too caught up in the fairy tale to listen to what she was being told?

Remember that incident on the balcony when he 'checked' her like a child and told her to face the front and she looked like she was about to cry.

@Lockdownbear

And reply to poster above. No he's not the spare now. But growing up he was. He didn't have his life mapped out for him the same way as William. He has the same risks and responsibilities but there would always become the time he wasn't needed. Not easy for anyone.

Actually the Monarch still needs some support. There would always have been a role for Harry.

Currently the Queen has 7 full-time support, 3 of her kids and 2 spouses, plus William & Kate all full-time working Royals.

Before William and Edward were full-time, the Queen had Prince Philip, the Queen Mother, and can't remember if Princess Margaret ever did much in the way of Royal engagements.

It was as the Queen and Phillip were aging that William and Harry were asked to become full-time.

It will be a long time before William's kids will be asked to become full-time Royals. William enjoyed his years doing normal jobs inc the Air Ambulance he'll want his kids to have that same time.

So in say 10 years time if Charles is King, his siblings will all be in their 70s and 80s. William and Kate still working but their kids will still very young, in their teens.

There is definitely a role for Harry. But he doesn't seem to want to do Royal engagements.

The Queen also has the Duke & Duchess of Gloucester, Duke of Kent and Princess Alexandra. Between them they carried out over 500 engagements in 2019. They are all in their 70s and 80s so their contribution will get smaller, and end, over the next 10 years or so.

The loss of Harry and Meghan as full time royals means there are probably 600ish engagements (at least) that they would have covered. Add in the Andrew issue and Charles’ slimmer monarchy is looking very slim with 900 engagements less coverage.

I think one of the reasons William is so furious with Harry is that it is now, imo, unlikely that George, Charlotte and Louis will have the luxury of being non-working or part-time royals to their 30s like they were. George in particular is likely to be full time considerably younger.

In 14 years George will be 21. When William was 21 there was the Queen, Philip, Charles, Andrew, Edward, Sophie, Anne, the Gloucesters X2, the Kent’s x2, Princess Alexandra and occasionally Prince Michael of Kent. They had between them all picked up the patronage’s of QEQM and Margaret. That’s 12 full timers and PMOK part time.

When George is 21 there will be Charles (86), Camilla (87), Anne (84), Edward (71), Sophie (70), William and Kate. There’s not going to be another 10 years for him to fly helicopters, live in Anglesey and have a private family life imo. And that, I think, will massively piss off William.

@RubyViolet

I am starting to think that Meghan has a husband problem 🤔

I agree with this.

It’s quite interesting that the one who married him is the one who seemingly had no idea what life entailed.

The two that knew ran for the hills...

@JustLyra
Read what I wrote, there would always have been a role for Harry.

I never realized how many engagement those older Royals did but I can see an argument for Bea and Eugenie to become Working Royals if Harry doesn't come back into the fold.

It really isn't fair for Williams kids not to have time to grow up away from the media.

[quote Lockdownbear]@JustLyra
Read what I wrote, there would always have been a role for Harry.

I never realized how many engagement those older Royals did but I can see an argument for Bea and Eugenie to become Working Royals if Harry doesn't come back into the fold.

It really isn't fair for Williams kids not to have time to grow up away from the media.[/quote]
I didn’t say you didn’t say there was a role for Harry?

I was adding to your point about the number of royals shrinking due to the ages and adding that because of that I don’t think William’s children will get that time because of the number of engagements that will be lost from the loss of Harry, Meghan, Andrew and the older royals

@JustLyra - Sorry I miss read you

[quote Lockdownbear]@JustLyra - Sorry I miss read you[/quote]
No worries. It’s easy done.

I genuinely think that’s going to be one of the reasons William and Harry’s relationship will be so badly damaged.

This has changed the timeline for George and Charlotte massively, and may even mean Louis’ potential choice to either be royal or go off and do something else won’t happen.

There are cousins that can take his place, can’t they?

@Blueberries0112

There are cousins that can take his place, can’t they?

The only adult cousins of Harry’s that could take his place are the York girls, and that seems very unlikely.

The Queen’s cousins already do 500+ engagements a year between them and are in their 70s and 80s so they’re not going to be picking up many more engagements.

Queen Elizabeth grand niece or nephew can’t become a working royals?