It was “, 'a bit naughty' to imply Archie 'couldn't be a prince because of the possible colour of his skin' when it was due to strict rules,...”

[RickiTarr]

Hugo Vickers made me laugh with his phrasing. So British to say “a bit naughty”.

Also, seriously high lights how many people don’t understand the rules or can’t explain the rules well, and no American has a hope of grasping our quaint & complicated rules and institutions, really.

Sorry, it’s the Daily Fail, but funny.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9340545/Why-Meghan-Markle-bit-naughty-referring-Archies-skin-colour-prince-discussion.html

@Samcro

Mn is so odd. There are threads on mn stating that the brain doesn't fully develope until 25. So we must make allowances. Yet when it comes to harry, something he did at 20 must mean he is a racist still.

The poor wee innocent lamb.

'Harry thought it was ok to dress up as a Nazi because his brain wasn't developed enough'

Even he wouldn't bother trying that one on @Samcro. Good grief.

krispyk you can have a poke at me as much as you like. Make it personal if you want, as you have.

I am not retaliating.

@Roussette

krispyk you can have a poke at me as much as you like. Make it personal if you want, as you have. I am not retaliating.

Roughly translated, I've been hoisted on my own petard so I will accuse you of being a big meanie

It's OK sweetie, you had a good run.

I don't know who Craig Campbell who wrote for the Sunday Post is, but I'm intrigued by his many incorrect assertions. It would probably be unkind to list them all, so I'll just concentrate on one:
"The British Government pays out £47m for major events through the Sovereign Grant, for attending official duties and so on, but not the £70m for security"

Given that security's provided by the police and the army, and that they're funded from the Treasury, I wonder who he imagines is paying for it?

@Impatiens

'Harry thought it was ok to dress up as a Nazi because his brain wasn't developed enough'

Even he wouldn't bother trying that one on @Samcro. Good grief.

Well go read the threads about university students breaking the law. Thats where i read it.

twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1278343488774352897

Puzzled there were a lot of grey areas in that article, I agree.

(grey areas being a bit of an understatement...)

@Impatiens

'Harry thought it was ok to dress up as a Nazi because his brain wasn't developed enough'

Even he wouldn't bother trying that one on @Samcro. Good grief.

I mean, the idea that the son of the future King of England, educated at Eton and Sandhurst would not understand the connotations of dressing up as a Nazi is COMPLETELY feasible

Along with people not having access to the most discreet and professional healthcare ...just incredible really

This thread is actually really funny

[quote Blueberries0112]twitter.com/chrisshipitv/status/1278343488774352897[/quote]
"Ummmm just go away. Let the rest of us deal with the real issues. Go lay by the pool."

I second that comment.

She exiled the Mother of the future KING without police protection or HRH title

Mummyozzi, former Metropolitan Police Commissioner Paul Condon told the inquest into her death that to his regret Diana refused to keep her royal security detail after the divorce, using police protection only when attending public events.

According to papers, the Queen was happy for Diana to keep her HRH tiles because she was the mother of the future King, but Charles insisted they were removed.

At 14.20 mins Rebecca English says Harry and M would have always had security in the U.K.

The Duchy of Cornwall brings in 22 million pounds a year. Why not just settle these money matters as a family ? Maybe pay for your sons right to move abroad and keep the peace and keep his family safe privately.

To me it all feels very uncivilised and greedy. A lot of debate about public spending from a family that has both assets and income privately AND from the public.

The Duchy of Cornwall brings in 22 million pounds a year. Why not just settle these money matters as a family ? Maybe pay for your sons right to move abroad and keep the peace and keep his family safe privately.

And apparently Harry and Meghan currently have around £100 million. Why do they need to go to Daddy for yet more cash?

pay for your sons right to move abroad

Comedy gold 😂

Who really knows, there's a lot of powerful people speaking on Diana's behalf. I don't believe the politicians and those in power don't have royals in their pockets and vice versa. Has Andrew been questioned by police yet or called to cooperate ?

We'll never know if he would have got security in the UK but if his reasons are he's no longer a senior working royal then I suspect not.

The point is that it's in itself a form of entrapment: stay in our toxic family on our terms or risk your family's safety.

@Samcro

Mn is so odd. There are threads on mn stating that the brain doesn't fully develope until 25. So we must make allowances. Yet when it comes to harry, something he did at 20 must mean he is a racist still.

My 11 year old has a sufficiently developed brain to work out that dressing up as a Nazi for fun isn't OK, and he hasn't had the benefit of the extra 9 years of education that Harry had had by the time he was 20.

She exiled the Mother of the future KING without police protection or HRH title

Diana was neither exiled nor left without protection. She was the one who didn't want to use the protection offered to her.

In light of all of this nobody can blame Megs and Hazza for selling out to Hollywood. Seems like a soft place to fall given what was on off the in the UK.

I don't think the rave comment was innocent. I just don't think Harry would throw his Dad and his Brother under the bus (they've become the two biggest suspects) if it was said innocently. Plus it was clear in the interview that skin colour and the titles and security of the prince were had in tandem. You can't tell me they were trying to protect Archie.

Even on a superficial/commercial/objective level I don't think it's an argument...You put a cute baby in the public eye with a royal title
and if that baby is Diana's grandson and he has an afro and dark skin and chubby cheeks he would have been a superstar !! The public would have loved it - the face of multicultural, modern Britain with woke parents. The kid would have been a hit regardless of skin colour.

This was absolutely about the royal family's brand and using white waspy priveledge and bloodlines and grasping at anything they can, to back up why they're royal
and the rest of us arent.

Purely speculation but I think it was William that said it. If I had to take a wild guess. This is completely a wild guess. However he always seemed in footage and photos to be the one who disrespected Meghan the most. Always had a smirk on his face at their wedding and in the Archie baptism
photo with her Mother wearing a turban, he was shuffled to the side and smirking and that time he refused to be photographed talking to her and pretended to fix his scarf.

Seems hard to believe Wills would be racist but racism towards people youre employing and helping and racism to people youre sharing your name
and titles and priveledge and reputation with, are two entirely different things.

Comedy gold for most of us as middle class wage earners.

Let your mind work a little harder though and imagine the rules beyond your own reality...

This is a family with enormous priveledge. If your only sibling/brother has a future access to a country of estates and palaces and houses and power and legacy and all the priveledge... you're hardly going to spend your only inheritance, a fraction of what he has, on security and with whatever is left over, a flat in West Hollywood.

I think the public isn't really thinking about this realistically given that Harry has been a royal commodity since birth and probably wants a payout for being used as tabloid bait and a spare heir for most of his life.

I mean did any of think Harry was going to go get a job at Waitrose while his brother and wife live in a 20 bedroom house in SW3. The royals have a lot to answer for.

@Bambooshoot

Isn't it more due to the rather questionable parentage of his father?

Really?!

@Mummyozzi

I mean did any of think Harry was going to go get a job at Waitrose while his brother and wife live in a 20 bedroom house in SW3. The royals have a lot to answer for.

No. We thought they were going to live somewhere nice and free and make money from their own creativity - like they said they would do.

With regard to people “knowing someone” what about six degrees of separation. It’s not difficult to imagine someone on here knows, or has worked for senior royals.

@Stratfordplace

With regard to people “knowing someone” what about six degrees of separation. It’s not difficult to imagine someone on here knows, or has worked for senior royals.

It’s not questionable that people know someone who works for the RF, they have a lot of staff, but it is questionable hoe many know someone who works for the RF and who has been openly vocal with their opinions on members of the family.

I grew up in Hollywood and UK with a famous parent. From my experiences the fact that MM was “a bit naughty implying xyz” will not bother Hollywood or the media in the US. Most Hollywood types lie all the time whether it be about their height or their abilities or whatever. I mean actors are always appearing on talk shows laughing about lying on their CVs that they could horse ride then getting a part in a Western and THEN having to learn horseback riding, or whatever it was they lied about.
In Britain we hold people accountable and expect a level of candor from people in the public eye. In Hollywood people are focusing on the main take outs - the racism, the suicide bid and the Disney princess trapped in a tower narrative. I’m not surprised that her story is peppered with untruths and crucially the US media won’t let these untruths detract from the rest of MM’s story or cast doubt on “her truth”.